Real question: TSLQ closed at 17.86 on Friday. But this morning, it said the price was 15.52 and down .42 cents? That math does not add up. That'd clearly be down more than 0.42.
Down to the buy / sell spread?
Makes such little sense to me
Is amazing to me. Tesla P/E ratio as of this morning is sitting at 321... Google with Waymo for comparison is sitting at a P/E of 30 (which is already a lttle high for them.)
I'm just waiting for Elon to call those people for morons - he's such a POS
Automatic mechanisms to detect crashes or power failures and release the doors? PUT A GODDAM HANDLE ON THE DOOR.
Someone should bait him into it. It would be lovely for next-of-kin’s lawsuits.
Seems like it has auto lock when it crashes, it's death engineering.
Yeah, Tesla's should be banned from driving until this is fixed
The front has mechanical latches.
When their revenue hit 0 again, that will mark the peak of the stock price
Its going to $666.420
Hahaha, yeah that would indeed be very fitting for the stoned devil that he is.
TSLA is a pure play on AI mania and robot hype, fueled by tweets not results. GOOG is a pure play on real technological progress. Hype moves faster than reality, and investors don’t like to wait.
You don’t understand. Tesla has two products, Optimus and Robotaxi, that are 100% pure play, pre-revenue, worth about $750 billion each. https://youtu.be/BzAdXyPYKQo?si=S3fjNQCsrn0sj6zr
Imagine having to lecture every new rear seat passenger on where the emergency door release is. And they're in weird places on some of the models. Or imagine putting a child in the rear seat. It's one of those obvious oversights or cost cutting measures in engineering, still not fixed over a decade into production runs, that makes one question what other compromises on safety were made.
One of my criteria when buying an EV was "has real door handles". Weird that that's even a question.
Have fun getting small children from the back of the car when it's in flames.
Dividend announced of 1.91/share.
A very informative video using official records and Teslas (fraudulent) statements. It's far worse than you think! Even I am baffled how bad it really is! I knew it's bad but that's just the tip of the iceberg! [https://youtu.be/zT-sfRF6Hvk?si=hQpjS5MtoNmFR3RB](https://youtu.be/zT-sfRF6Hvk?si=hQpjS5MtoNmFR3RB)
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Imagine buying one of those death traps. With real money. They should all be recalled and equipped with actual door handles. Or better, they should all be recalled and scrapped.
Which of these cases were rear seat passenger? Which were children? The cars also don’t just explode with any accident.
The majority of accidents with Teslas where responders can’t get into the car due to the latches or power handles, would have been a fatality in any car. One issue is the speed of these crashes, the drivers are crashing at such speed that the crash incapacitates them and they’re unable to extract themselves. These cases only become high profile because they’re Teslas, EVs, and the design of the handles, which a redesign is a valid concern to make things as easy as possible. The cars detect crashes, the doors could unlock then.
its such a weird thing that i cant imagine this being anyone, especially not a car designer or car design engineer, who made it this way. its 100% elon, right ? it has to be someone so unhinged that they wouldnt want a fucking door handle, ON A DOOR. it limits the amount of people who want this feature down quite a bit. it limits it to people WHO DONT USE DOORS. now, who doesnt use a door? someone who works on cars and opens their own door? or some rich assclown carrying a sink into a building with both hands full of sink? the sink thing is so gross. he wanted sinks so he could piss in them. because the building wouldnt allow toilets to be installed.
This without question. Every other manufacture does it by default without needed government intervention. As is best and results in the least amount of friction. But not Tesla. And likely will have to come up with another regulation for all to follow just because Tesla wants to fuck around.
Nah they worth like 2 trillion each and the mars base? 10 trillion!! Edit: People down voting you need to watch the YouTube video. Its a silicone valley bit on being pre-revenue
I hold shares of TSLQ, so why havent i received any dividends then? Sorry for dumb questions.
Cremation mode engaged.
For us the other criteria was side windows that can be broken with emergency hammer.
My Renault also has electric door handles. With regular ones right below and on the outside. Why even bother? Just give me the normal ones only!
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Tesla is about to get a lot worse or not even be valid if they show a loss. P/E is not even a good benchmark at this point for Tesla. It could go to millions if their profits drop to say a million dollars a year. It starts to become meaningless other than to indicate a company that is not doing well at this point in time. The really big indicator now is the trajectory in profits. And more so, would Tesla ever be able to live up to their capitalization. Which is a big fucking no.
\>removes air condition buttons \>adds button to open door lol why
There is a mechanical emergency release handle for the front doors but its not labelled at all. There is also one for the rear doors but it requires you to remove a piece of trim in the side pocket and tug on a wire strap! Even if you know about them the startle effect of a crash would likely leave most people fumbling around despiratley trying to escape!
I'd love to see all Teslas taken off the roads! Every single one is funding for fascism.
People have been valuing Tesla as a tech company forever. Nothing is changing anytime soon. It’s just a ponzi scheme. 2026 will finally prove it.
The real world energy savings of aerodynamic flush door handles would be unnoticeable on daily driving battery use. I'd even argue the motors used to reveal the handle would use more energy than any saved by aerodynamics. I think Tesla knows this, so the death trap handles are purely esthetics and point of difference (pointless future gimmick) at the cost of customers safety.
The first quadrillion company in five years!!!!
Sadly Tesla is not the only company doing this anymore.
This article doesn’t explain if this is an education problem (design problem too) that people don’t realize Teslas have mechanical handles on both the front and back doors or a functional problem where the mechanical handles failed to disengage the locks.
They should have an overhead red T-handle you can twist and pull down to activate explosive bolts for egress.
Being cool isn’t cool
Nothing matters. As long there are Musk fans out there and buying Tesla. The higher the stock will pump. World richest person and US government backing him. Who would cares how dangerous are crappy Tesla is?
This feature prevents users from disputing teslas claims the FSD was not in use at the time of the crash.
Tesla has successfully transitioned multiple hype trains over the last 10 years while still consistently failing to deliver. This in and of itself is a notable and unique attribute
Missing the point. Do you know what an hypothetical is?
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The point is that while the handle should be redesigned to avoid the most amount of negative situations, these sensational cases of people dying in Tesla fires ‘because of the handles’ are actually because a car crashed at speeds that incapacitated the driver and made them incapable of extracting themselves from the vehicle.
The internet bubble is going to look like a minor correction when this all unwinds
ffs. There is no fucking point in these handles. The simple fact that is possible to have people trapped is enough to trash them.
Mine has a door handle.
Are Teslas the only cars that have electric door handles?
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I’m assuming you are talking about the S since you said reveal the handle. The S has a door handle inside the car and not a button, mine does at least.
Do regular car handles unlock in a car crash? I would think this would be a big problem for any car crash involving someone unconscious or trapped inside
They do that all the time on the Google chart with Tesla. Whenever they had a god awful start they always make it down like -3 when it’s down -15 first thing in the morning from close. I’ve noticed that shit a long time ago but I know what it is so 🤷♂️.
Found the answer the Audi E-Tron, BMW iX, Chevrolet Corvette, Fiat 500e, Ford Mustang Mach-E, Genesis G90, Lexus NX, RX, and TX, Lucid Air, and the discontinued Fisker Ocean and Lincoln Continental
Shareholders applaud low crash statistics.
There is. Atleast on Highland very near electric one. I like electric opening more than pull handle. But safety manual handle should exist 100%.
They can fix it via an OTA update that shows a video prior to the car being put in gear to show how to escape the vehicle kind of like when you take a flight
Best of all, the location of the secret safety latch sometimes changes between years and models.
Turns out having incompetent morons in the C suite is not exclusive to Tesla.
This is the market side definition of too big to fail
Optimus is garbage compared to any competition you put it up against - and that market is WILDLY over estimated. Robotaxi is in 3rd place in the US automated unitary on demand transit system market - it's years behind - and that market is WILDLY over valued
Door handles aren't covered by FMVSS because it was LITERALLY TOO DAMN OBVIOUS
The mania and hype is gone. Nowadays it's a gamblers' stock where noobs bet based on where the stock's valuation should reasonably be, and get fleeced by pros who bet where they can move the stock to. The stock market is and always was about the latter.
And yet lemon is still thought of as a successful business man.
I'm more concerned with the uselessness of the interior door handles in crash events. There are accounts of initial crash survivors being conscious, screaming and beating on windows, because the interior door handles don't function, good samaritans attempting and failing to rescue occupants because the exterior handles don't functions, and being driven away by the heat of the battery fire. Anyone with even the slightest human empathy can mentally place themselves in the situation of either those initial crash survivors or the bystanders attempting to help. And its pure horror.
Good find. Why don't any of these have the same problem with the handles as Tesla? Clearly it can be done…
Humans can drive with eyes and brain alone. Since FSD is super human, there is no need for mechanical door handles, since humans don't have mechanical door handles either.
In a crash, the wrecked Tesla car sends a tweet to Starlink which activates the Optimus robot, which hails a Tesla Robotaxi to take it to the robot teleoperator's house, wake him up, then he charges Optimus and the Robotaxi via the Tesla Powerwall, then him and Optimus finally attempt to go to the crash site to open the door but a stuck Cybertruck is blocking them.
As a fellow Elon hater, I am saving this comment for future reference. Thank you for your seasoned skills!
Who says they don’t have the same problem? Two cars crashed into trees on the same road, burst into flames and both drivers died last week locally. How many articles in the news were about the Tesla and how many articles were about the Tacoma? Tesla was at the top of the search and at least 10 articles, had to dig to find the 1 article about the Tacoma. It’s all about the clicks.
"Open the door Hal. I'm Sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
If putting a handle on the door then Tesla won't have that futuristic look.
If Elon provides a solution and some owners cannot comply, then it is Elon's fault because some people cannot be a genius like Elon.
No extra charge!
Great fun for the kids.
Subscribed to that channel, great content
But they have a manual door release? On my Model 3 it’s labelled and pretty obvious. The point of the button on the model 3 is because of the windows needing to slightly drop before the door unlatches so you don’t break the window, can’t speak to the other models.
The Tesla fanboys need to hear this more than anyone.
Everyone who owns a Tesla should absolutely have a window cracker within reach.
It is weird because the models mentioned (3 and Y) doesn't have electric doorhandles
if you're stuck inside a burning vehicle whose doors won't open your only look at the future is your life flashing before your eyes
How about on the outside?
It’s SOP for doors to unlock when airbags deploy, at least with responsible OEMs run by adults.
Oh come on man, you're not seeing Elon's evil scheme? So, he produced cars that are death traps, and then marketing them to his political enemies. I mean we all saw the dude straight up rip money away from people who need it to survive, so don't think he wouldn't do something flagrantly evil, because he already has on multiple occasions. He's a monster and he always was. He's just going to keep seeing what he can get away with while the evil monsters he works with keep shoving money into his pocket.
As a south Floridian living near many canals and bridges the whole unbreakable glass for the cyber truck made no sense to me. There is not a big problem with broken glass but if you make the glass unbreakable guarantee that people will die. How do you claim to be a safe company and even think this is a good idea. That's how I know it is Elons idea because no smart person would allow that idea to get very far.
I really don’t understand this. There’s a little mechanical door handle right underneath the electric button on each of the doors you just give it a pole in the door pops open just like any other door. What the hell… Not an Elon fan. Quite the opposite. But I’ve Test driven these cars and the mechanical door lever is right there 🤷♂️
It will be on premise to free the injured passengers in q1, but surely by the end of the year
And the older models don't have a release in the rear at all.
Tesla is the only one with a separate or non-existent mechanical release. All other automakers have it so if you pull really hard (like in a panic situation after a crash) the electronic release is bypassed and it works like a normal handle.
Tesla is responsible for several updates along the line of "we didn't think we'd have to spell this out, but clearly we do."
Add to that Tesla's bragging about "unbreakable" side windows. The reason side windows aren't laminated like the windshield is because you DO want to break those to get out if the doors are bent in a crash.
Those are only on the front doors, only on some models. The rear releases only exist after 2021, and require disassemble of the interior trim to get to and aren't clearly labeled.
Maybe deaths cost less in court than severe injury. If you die, it's a one time payoff, but if you get severely injured, it's a lifelong recurring payment. So obviously you want to kill the passengers
No doubt about it.
Can’t sue Elmo if you’re burned to death.
Musk fantasizes the major threat is being caught in a riot in Soweto. The real threat is being lulled into complacency by a 'FSD' that works 95% of the time, it driving the vehicle off-road into an obstacle, and the battery igniting. In the real world incident, you want to get away from a burning EV as fast as possible.
Something like 98% of Teslas sold have actual handles in the front. it’s the stupid X and S that don’t. they still need to put physical handles on all 4 doors
Compared to how many for gas cars?
Orders of magnitude
The front door manual release on the Model Y is in a very instinctual location. Just about everyone that sits in my front passenger seat goes to open the car door with it, even if 30 seconds earlier I told them to use the button. My view on the rear door manual release is they definitely could make an improvement to it. On mine I put a pull tab on it and have taught my kids how to open the doors with the manual release. If they were to do the rear doors the same as the front doors it would defeat the child lock which could be different safety issue.
Maybe Velcro a center punch where it can be easily grabbed in a submersion or fire.
Side windows are no longer made of tempered glass which shatters easily.
But… all doors have manual openers? This is an unusual CLICKBAIT headline.
And on this news, the stock surges 10% to new all time highs!
F'k.
Same taking a beat down from $ 71. , dont short Tesla , got burned this time
Once.
You should NEVER have to have training on how to get out in an accident. Never. Just pull the dang handle.
They have a secondary handle now v
NEVER BUY A VEHICLE THAT MUSK BUILT. Death trap.
I happened to wonder what was the reason they couldn't just do the same thing for the back doors as the front doors. However the Child Safety Lock makes 100% sense. I would consider that the same Danger as if people turned on the child safety locks in a 1999 Ford. Those back seat occupants would be screwed too. I think all manufacturers should do two different things. 1. By default have that strap sticking out of the back door pocket and be a bright color, allowing parents with children to tuck them if they enable the child lock. That way the parent absolutely knows about the release and have to make a decision on how to use it. And then they will subsequently know to teach the kids about it if there is an emergency. 2. By default, have the doors unlocked in a collision or battery dying scenario, they could probably use a capacitor and a chip in the door. You could give owners an option to disable them but it would come with a waiver. I could imagine scenarios where someone is being targeted and crashed into and now they're victims of someone who just was able to get in the car because the doors unlocked automatically.
What about child locks that have been in cars for decades?
I have mixed feelings about those from a safety perspective. But THERE IS A HANDLE ON THE OUTSIDE. You unlock, you open.
I'm not an AI bull by any means but Google has the best frontier LLM and both training and inference is done entirely on their custom ASICs. Which are like twice as cost efficient as NVidia GPUs and are now being sold to third parties. And it was their research that introduced modern LLM technology in the first place. This is in addition to leading edge non-LLM AI like with DeepMind and of course a ton of non-AI stuff. IMO it makes no sense for NVidia to have a higher market cap than Google.
Especially on the three and Y I have more passengers accidentally opening the door with the manual release then the electric release. So I don’t know how people are missing it.
No, he needs to sacrifice a few of his children to beta test this type of technology for dear Elon.
Rivian is fucking up in Gen 2 the same way. Why aren’t goddamn handles ok?
the ceo seems like an incompetent boob.
Jesus man you make it sound like doors are something we have had for a long time.
Because companies keep copying the worst parts of Tesla design for some god awful reason. The idea of making a vehicle that is both normal in function and design that just happens to have an electric drivetrain seems unfathomable to these companies.
Every Tesla has safety latches... They're just hidden...
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