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15 People Have Died in Crashes Where Tesla Doors Wouldn’t Open | There are no official statistics on the dangers of electric handles. So Bloomberg did its own analysis.

silence7 | 2025-12-22 14:57 | 1072 views

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Steak_Itchy 2025-12-22 15:01

Real question: TSLQ closed at 17.86 on Friday. But this morning, it said the price was 15.52 and down .42 cents? That math does not add up. That'd clearly be down more than 0.42.

RiseUpAndGetOut 2025-12-22 15:02

Down to the buy / sell spread?

Steak_Itchy 2025-12-22 15:05

Makes such little sense to me

SunshineSeattle 2025-12-22 15:17

Is amazing to me. Tesla P/E ratio as of this morning is sitting at 321... Google with Waymo for comparison is sitting at a P/E of 30 (which is already a lttle high for them.)

Forsaken-Assist-1325 2025-12-22 15:24

I'm just waiting for Elon to call those people for morons - he's such a POS

OrangeCeylon 2025-12-22 15:24

Automatic mechanisms to detect crashes or power failures and release the doors? PUT A GODDAM HANDLE ON THE DOOR.

SocialJusticeAndroid 2025-12-22 15:26

Someone should bait him into it. It would be lovely for next-of-kin’s lawsuits.

djshimon 2025-12-22 15:27

Seems like it has auto lock when it crashes, it's death engineering.

Forsaken-Assist-1325 2025-12-22 15:27

Yeah, Tesla's should be banned from driving until this is fixed

TuringGPTy 2025-12-22 15:27

The front has mechanical latches.

Forsaken-Assist-1325 2025-12-22 15:30

When their revenue hit 0 again, that will mark the peak of the stock price

SunshineSeattle 2025-12-22 15:31

Its going to $666.420

Forsaken-Assist-1325 2025-12-22 15:33

Hahaha, yeah that would indeed be very fitting for the stoned devil that he is.

admin_default 2025-12-22 15:37

TSLA is a pure play on AI mania and robot hype, fueled by tweets not results. GOOG is a pure play on real technological progress. Hype moves faster than reality, and investors don’t like to wait.

Schroederlaw 2025-12-22 15:38

You don’t understand. Tesla has two products, Optimus and Robotaxi, that are 100% pure play, pre-revenue, worth about $750 billion each. https://youtu.be/BzAdXyPYKQo?si=S3fjNQCsrn0sj6zr

Sanpaku 2025-12-22 15:39

Imagine having to lecture every new rear seat passenger on where the emergency door release is. And they're in weird places on some of the models. Or imagine putting a child in the rear seat. It's one of those obvious oversights or cost cutting measures in engineering, still not fixed over a decade into production runs, that makes one question what other compromises on safety were made.

MortimerDongle 2025-12-22 15:42

One of my criteria when buying an EV was "has real door handles". Weird that that's even a question.

metalanimal 2025-12-22 15:43

Have fun getting small children from the back of the car when it's in flames.

bpainter327 2025-12-22 15:45

Dividend announced of 1.91/share.

[deleted] 2025-12-22 15:46

A very informative video using official records and Teslas (fraudulent) statements. It's far worse than you think! Even I am baffled how bad it really is! I knew it's bad but that's just the tip of the iceberg! [https://youtu.be/zT-sfRF6Hvk?si=hQpjS5MtoNmFR3RB](https://youtu.be/zT-sfRF6Hvk?si=hQpjS5MtoNmFR3RB)

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ObviousCommonSense 2025-12-22 15:47

Imagine buying one of those death traps. With real money. They should all be recalled and equipped with actual door handles. Or better, they should all be recalled and scrapped.

TuringGPTy 2025-12-22 15:49

Which of these cases were rear seat passenger? Which were children? The cars also don’t just explode with any accident.

TuringGPTy 2025-12-22 15:55

The majority of accidents with Teslas where responders can’t get into the car due to the latches or power handles, would have been a fatality in any car. One issue is the speed of these crashes, the drivers are crashing at such speed that the crash incapacitates them and they’re unable to extract themselves. These cases only become high profile because they’re Teslas, EVs, and the design of the handles, which a redesign is a valid concern to make things as easy as possible. The cars detect crashes, the doors could unlock then.

dorchet 2025-12-22 16:01

its such a weird thing that i cant imagine this being anyone, especially not a car designer or car design engineer, who made it this way. its 100% elon, right ? it has to be someone so unhinged that they wouldnt want a fucking door handle, ON A DOOR. it limits the amount of people who want this feature down quite a bit. it limits it to people WHO DONT USE DOORS. now, who doesnt use a door? someone who works on cars and opens their own door? or some rich assclown carrying a sink into a building with both hands full of sink? the sink thing is so gross. he wanted sinks so he could piss in them. because the building wouldnt allow toilets to be installed.

pzerr 2025-12-22 16:02

This without question. Every other manufacture does it by default without needed government intervention. As is best and results in the least amount of friction. But not Tesla. And likely will have to come up with another regulation for all to follow just because Tesla wants to fuck around.

SunshineSeattle 2025-12-22 16:03

Nah they worth like 2 trillion each  and the mars base? 10 trillion!! Edit:  People down voting you need to watch the YouTube video. Its a silicone valley bit on being pre-revenue

Steak_Itchy 2025-12-22 16:03

I hold shares of TSLQ, so why havent i received any dividends then? Sorry for dumb questions.

Real-Technician831 2025-12-22 16:04

Cremation mode engaged.

Real-Technician831 2025-12-22 16:07

For us the other criteria was side windows that can be broken with emergency hammer.

C00kie_Monsters 2025-12-22 16:07

My Renault also has electric door handles. With regular ones right below and on the outside. Why even bother? Just give me the normal ones only!

djshimon 2025-12-22 16:08

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pzerr 2025-12-22 16:10

Tesla is about to get a lot worse or not even be valid if they show a loss. P/E is not even a good benchmark at this point for Tesla. It could go to millions if their profits drop to say a million dollars a year. It starts to become meaningless other than to indicate a company that is not doing well at this point in time. The really big indicator now is the trajectory in profits. And more so, would Tesla ever be able to live up to their capitalization. Which is a big fucking no.

dorchet 2025-12-22 16:11

\>removes air condition buttons \>adds button to open door lol why

iiTool 2025-12-22 16:16

There is a mechanical emergency release handle for the front doors but its not labelled at all. There is also one for the rear doors but it requires you to remove a piece of trim in the side pocket and tug on a wire strap! Even if you know about them the startle effect of a crash would likely leave most people fumbling around despiratley trying to escape!

rdu3y6 2025-12-22 16:20

I'd love to see all Teslas taken off the roads! Every single one is funding for fascism.

zitrored 2025-12-22 16:21

People have been valuing Tesla as a tech company forever. Nothing is changing anytime soon. It’s just a ponzi scheme. 2026 will finally prove it.

kneejerk2022 2025-12-22 16:26

The real world energy savings of aerodynamic flush door handles would be unnoticeable on daily driving battery use. I'd even argue the motors used to reveal the handle would use more energy than any saved by aerodynamics. I think Tesla knows this, so the death trap handles are purely esthetics and point of difference (pointless future gimmick) at the cost of customers safety.

Fishy_Fish_WA 2025-12-22 16:27

The first quadrillion company in five years!!!!

meltbox 2025-12-22 16:30

Sadly Tesla is not the only company doing this anymore.

Mission_Bullfrog3294 2025-12-22 16:32

This article doesn’t explain if this is an education problem (design problem too) that people don’t realize Teslas have mechanical handles on both the front and back doors or a functional problem where the mechanical handles failed to disengage the locks.

meshreplacer 2025-12-22 16:35

They should have an overhead red T-handle you can twist and pull down to activate explosive bolts for egress.

Boys4Ever 2025-12-22 16:37

Being cool isn’t cool

Desperate-Hearing-55 2025-12-22 16:38

Nothing matters. As long there are Musk fans out there and buying Tesla. The higher the stock will pump. World richest person and US government backing him. Who would cares how dangerous are crappy Tesla is?

Fuzzy_Inevitable9748 2025-12-22 16:45

This feature prevents users from disputing teslas claims the FSD was not in use at the time of the crash.

spastical-mackerel 2025-12-22 16:46

Tesla has successfully transitioned multiple hype trains over the last 10 years while still consistently failing to deliver. This in and of itself is a notable and unique attribute

metalanimal 2025-12-22 16:53

Missing the point. Do you know what an hypothetical is?

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TuringGPTy 2025-12-22 16:58

The point is that while the handle should be redesigned to avoid the most amount of negative situations, these sensational cases of people dying in Tesla fires ‘because of the handles’ are actually because a car crashed at speeds that incapacitated the driver and made them incapable of extracting themselves from the vehicle.

ryan_dfs 2025-12-22 17:01

The internet bubble is going to look like a minor correction when this all unwinds

metalanimal 2025-12-22 17:02

ffs. There is no fucking point in these handles. The simple fact that is possible to have people trapped is enough to trash them.

DotJun 2025-12-22 17:07

Mine has a door handle.

Fiveofthem 2025-12-22 17:08

Are Teslas the only cars that have electric door handles?

CRXCRZ 2025-12-22 17:10

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DotJun 2025-12-22 17:10

I’m assuming you are talking about the S since you said reveal the handle. The S has a door handle inside the car and not a button, mine does at least.

NebulousNitrate 2025-12-22 17:13

Do regular car handles unlock in a car crash? I would think this would be a big problem for any car crash involving someone unconscious or trapped inside

readit145 2025-12-22 17:14

They do that all the time on the Google chart with Tesla. Whenever they had a god awful start they always make it down like -3 when it’s down -15 first thing in the morning from close. I’ve noticed that shit a long time ago but I know what it is so 🤷‍♂️.

Fiveofthem 2025-12-22 17:14

Found the answer the Audi E-Tron, BMW iX, Chevrolet Corvette, Fiat 500e, Ford Mustang Mach-E, Genesis G90, Lexus NX, RX, and TX, Lucid Air, and the discontinued Fisker Ocean and Lincoln Continental

djshimon 2025-12-22 17:22

Shareholders applaud low crash statistics.

bonapartista 2025-12-22 17:24

There is. Atleast on Highland very near electric one. I like electric opening more than pull handle. But safety manual handle should exist 100%.

Beezelbubba 2025-12-22 17:30

They can fix it via an OTA update that shows a video prior to the car being put in gear to show how to escape the vehicle kind of like when you take a flight

Appropriate-Draft-91 2025-12-22 17:33

Best of all, the location of the secret safety latch sometimes changes between years and models.

Appropriate-Draft-91 2025-12-22 17:35

Turns out having incompetent morons in the C suite is not exclusive to Tesla.

Difficult_Limit2718 2025-12-22 17:35

This is the market side definition of too big to fail

Difficult_Limit2718 2025-12-22 17:37

Optimus is garbage compared to any competition you put it up against - and that market is WILDLY over estimated. Robotaxi is in 3rd place in the US automated unitary on demand transit system market - it's years behind - and that market is WILDLY over valued

Difficult_Limit2718 2025-12-22 17:38

Door handles aren't covered by FMVSS because it was LITERALLY TOO DAMN OBVIOUS

Appropriate-Draft-91 2025-12-22 17:38

The mania and hype is gone. Nowadays it's a gamblers' stock where noobs bet based on where the stock's valuation should reasonably be, and get fleeced by pros who bet where they can move the stock to. The stock market is and always was about the latter.

Mr_Thx 2025-12-22 17:48

And yet lemon is still thought of as a successful business man.

Sanpaku 2025-12-22 17:57

I'm more concerned with the uselessness of the interior door handles in crash events. There are accounts of initial crash survivors being conscious, screaming and beating on windows, because the interior door handles don't function, good samaritans attempting and failing to rescue occupants because the exterior handles don't functions, and being driven away by the heat of the battery fire. Anyone with even the slightest human empathy can mentally place themselves in the situation of either those initial crash survivors or the bystanders attempting to help. And its pure horror.

luciaromanomba 2025-12-22 18:05

Good find. Why don't any of these have the same problem with the handles as Tesla? Clearly it can be done…

RefrigeratorTasty912 2025-12-22 18:06

Humans can drive with eyes and brain alone. Since FSD is super human, there is no need for mechanical door handles, since humans don't have mechanical door handles either.

vietomatic 2025-12-22 18:07

In a crash, the wrecked Tesla car sends a tweet to Starlink which activates the Optimus robot, which hails a Tesla Robotaxi to take it to the robot teleoperator's house, wake him up, then he charges Optimus and the Robotaxi via the Tesla Powerwall, then him and Optimus finally attempt to go to the crash site to open the door but a stuck Cybertruck is blocking them.

luciaromanomba 2025-12-22 18:08

As a fellow Elon hater, I am saving this comment for future reference. Thank you for your seasoned skills!

Fiveofthem 2025-12-22 18:10

Who says they don’t have the same problem? Two cars crashed into trees on the same road, burst into flames and both drivers died last week locally. How many articles in the news were about the Tesla and how many articles were about the Tacoma? Tesla was at the top of the search and at least 10 articles, had to dig to find the 1 article about the Tacoma. It’s all about the clicks.

Mugwump6506 2025-12-22 18:20

"Open the door Hal. I'm Sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

ArQ7777 2025-12-22 18:29

If putting a handle on the door then Tesla won't have that futuristic look.

ArQ7777 2025-12-22 18:30

If Elon provides a solution and some owners cannot comply, then it is Elon's fault because some people cannot be a genius like Elon.

MattGdr 2025-12-22 18:50

No extra charge!

friendIdiglove 2025-12-22 19:15

Great fun for the kids.

youcantkillanidea 2025-12-22 19:18

Subscribed to that channel, great content

iStrafeEU 2025-12-22 19:21

But they have a manual door release? On my Model 3 it’s labelled and pretty obvious. The point of the button on the model 3 is because of the windows needing to slightly drop before the door unlatches so you don’t break the window, can’t speak to the other models.

Jaymzmykaul45 2025-12-22 19:54

The Tesla fanboys need to hear this more than anyone.

AbjectList8 2025-12-22 20:00

Everyone who owns a Tesla should absolutely have a window cracker within reach.

Lollerscooter 2025-12-22 20:12

It is weird because the models mentioned (3 and Y) doesn't have electric doorhandles

Secure_Guest_6171 2025-12-22 20:25

if you're stuck inside a burning vehicle whose doors won't open your only look at the future is your life flashing before your eyes

UnprincipledCanadian 2025-12-22 20:56

How about on the outside?

Engunnear 2025-12-22 21:00

It’s SOP for doors to unlock when airbags deploy, at least with responsible OEMs run by adults.

Actual__Wizard 2025-12-22 21:08

Oh come on man, you're not seeing Elon's evil scheme? So, he produced cars that are death traps, and then marketing them to his political enemies. I mean we all saw the dude straight up rip money away from people who need it to survive, so don't think he wouldn't do something flagrantly evil, because he already has on multiple occasions. He's a monster and he always was. He's just going to keep seeing what he can get away with while the evil monsters he works with keep shoving money into his pocket.

New-Disaster-2061 2025-12-22 21:17

As a south Floridian living near many canals and bridges the whole unbreakable glass for the cyber truck made no sense to me. There is not a big problem with broken glass but if you make the glass unbreakable guarantee that people will die. How do you claim to be a safe company and even think this is a good idea. That's how I know it is Elons idea because no smart person would allow that idea to get very far.

AutoNope 2025-12-22 21:50

I really don’t understand this. There’s a little mechanical door handle right underneath the electric button on each of the doors you just give it a pole in the door pops open just like any other door. What the hell… Not an Elon fan. Quite the opposite. But I’ve Test driven these cars and the mechanical door lever is right there 🤷‍♂️

GarlicSweaty4987 2025-12-22 22:02

It will be on premise to free the injured passengers in q1, but surely by the end of the year

Individual-Nebula927 2025-12-22 22:42

And the older models don't have a release in the rear at all.

Individual-Nebula927 2025-12-22 22:43

Tesla is the only one with a separate or non-existent mechanical release. All other automakers have it so if you pull really hard (like in a panic situation after a crash) the electronic release is bypassed and it works like a normal handle.

Individual-Nebula927 2025-12-22 22:46

Tesla is responsible for several updates along the line of "we didn't think we'd have to spell this out, but clearly we do."

Individual-Nebula927 2025-12-22 22:48

Add to that Tesla's bragging about "unbreakable" side windows. The reason side windows aren't laminated like the windshield is because you DO want to break those to get out if the doors are bent in a crash.

Individual-Nebula927 2025-12-22 22:51

Those are only on the front doors, only on some models. The rear releases only exist after 2021, and require disassemble of the interior trim to get to and aren't clearly labeled.

arbitrageME 2025-12-22 23:37

Maybe deaths cost less in court than severe injury. If you die, it's a one time payoff, but if you get severely injured, it's a lifelong recurring payment. So obviously you want to kill the passengers

djshimon 2025-12-22 23:50

No doubt about it.

eclwires 2025-12-23 01:14

Can’t sue Elmo if you’re burned to death.

Sanpaku 2025-12-23 02:15

Musk fantasizes the major threat is being caught in a riot in Soweto. The real threat is being lulled into complacency by a 'FSD' that works 95% of the time, it driving the vehicle off-road into an obstacle, and the battery igniting. In the real world incident, you want to get away from a burning EV as fast as possible.

jawshoeaw 2025-12-23 02:16

Something like 98% of Teslas sold have actual handles in the front. it’s the stupid X and S that don’t. they still need to put physical handles on all 4 doors

[deleted] 2025-12-23 02:31

Compared to how many for gas cars?

bls2515 2025-12-23 02:33

Orders of magnitude

RobertBurdineSD 2025-12-23 02:59

The front door manual release on the Model Y is in a very instinctual location. Just about everyone that sits in my front passenger seat goes to open the car door with it, even if 30 seconds earlier I told them to use the button. My view on the rear door manual release is they definitely could make an improvement to it. On mine I put a pull tab on it and have taught my kids how to open the doors with the manual release. If they were to do the rear doors the same as the front doors it would defeat the child lock which could be different safety issue.

EducationalFlower533 2025-12-23 03:29

Maybe Velcro a center punch where it can be easily grabbed in a submersion or fire.

silence7 2025-12-23 04:27

Side windows are no longer made of tempered glass which shatters easily.

Spooms2010 2025-12-23 04:34

But… all doors have manual openers? This is an unusual CLICKBAIT headline.

[deleted] 2025-12-23 05:18

And on this news, the stock surges 10% to new all time highs!

dogmatum-dei 2025-12-23 08:40

F'k.

haroldnkumar69 2025-12-23 10:34

Same taking a beat down from $ 71. , dont short Tesla , got burned this time

FlyingArdilla 2025-12-23 11:30

Once.

Potential_Limit_9123 2025-12-23 14:06

You should NEVER have to have training on how to get out in an accident. Never. Just pull the dang handle.

Bigfoqt 2025-12-23 15:23

They have a secondary handle now v

racingwthemoon 2025-12-23 15:57

NEVER BUY A VEHICLE THAT MUSK BUILT. Death trap.

letsmakepercents 2025-12-23 16:10

I happened to wonder what was the reason they couldn't just do the same thing for the back doors as the front doors. However the Child Safety Lock makes 100% sense. I would consider that the same Danger as if people turned on the child safety locks in a 1999 Ford. Those back seat occupants would be screwed too. I think all manufacturers should do two different things. 1. By default have that strap sticking out of the back door pocket and be a bright color, allowing parents with children to tuck them if they enable the child lock. That way the parent absolutely knows about the release and have to make a decision on how to use it. And then they will subsequently know to teach the kids about it if there is an emergency. 2. By default, have the doors unlocked in a collision or battery dying scenario, they could probably use a capacitor and a chip in the door. You could give owners an option to disable them but it would come with a waiver. I could imagine scenarios where someone is being targeted and crashed into and now they're victims of someone who just was able to get in the car because the doors unlocked automatically.

letsmakepercents 2025-12-23 16:11

What about child locks that have been in cars for decades?

OrangeCeylon 2025-12-23 18:09

I have mixed feelings about those from a safety perspective. But THERE IS A HANDLE ON THE OUTSIDE. You unlock, you open.

ionizing_chicanery 2025-12-23 21:45

I'm not an AI bull by any means but Google has the best frontier LLM and both training and inference is done entirely on their custom ASICs. Which are like twice as cost efficient as NVidia GPUs and are now being sold to third parties. And it was their research that introduced modern LLM technology in the first place. This is in addition to leading edge non-LLM AI like with DeepMind and of course a ton of non-AI stuff. IMO it makes no sense for NVidia to have a higher market cap than Google.

Feisty_Parsley_83853 2025-12-23 22:34

Especially on the three and Y I have more passengers accidentally opening the door with the manual release then the electric release. So I don’t know how people are missing it.

zeekayz 2025-12-24 02:14

No, he needs to sacrifice a few of his children to beta test this type of technology for dear Elon.

nick0tesla0 2025-12-24 04:19

Rivian is fucking up in Gen 2 the same way. Why aren’t goddamn handles ok?

analbob 2025-12-24 16:01

the ceo seems like an incompetent boob.

[deleted] 2025-12-24 19:51

Jesus man you make it sound like doors are something we have had for a long time.

darkearwig 2026-01-02 12:15

Because companies keep copying the worst parts of Tesla design for some god awful reason. The idea of making a vehicle that is both normal in function and design that just happens to have an electric drivetrain seems unfathomable to these companies.

HapiHapii 2026-01-13 21:55

Every Tesla has safety latches... They're just hidden...

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