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San Francisco Superior Court Judge Uses AI To Incorrectly Rule In Elon Musk's and Tesla's Favor

thinkcomp | 2025-12-20 18:02 | 361 views

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c3p-bro 2025-12-20 18:07

Paywall

hypespud 2025-12-20 18:11

[https://archive.is/20251220133829/https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/elon-musk-defamation-lawsuit-21221662.php](https://archive.is/20251220133829/https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/elon-musk-defamation-lawsuit-21221662.php)

[deleted] 2025-12-20 18:28

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Real-Technician831 2025-12-20 18:29

Probably used Grok

yamirzmmdx 2025-12-20 18:41

>While generative AI has become an invaluable tool for legal research and other functions, it has also produced bogus content that’s been found in hundreds of known court cases, researchers have found. Invaluable tool? Are they lowering their fees to also produce garbage?

Actual__Wizard 2025-12-20 18:53

Flagrant corruption.

alang 2025-12-20 20:01

The judge said, “I want to rule for Musk, please make me a ruling consistent with this.” The AI did the rest. The lawyer would have done better to use the AI slop as basis for an appeal, because the judge already knows which way he wants to rule, and pointing out that his precedents are fictional won’t change that, it’ll just give him a chance to come up with some that aren’t.

TheSilverSeraph 2025-12-20 22:41

As another commenter says, flagrant corruption.

[deleted] 2025-12-21 02:10

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thinkcomp 2025-12-21 02:12

You don't technically have to, but it can be a good idea for a variety of reasons, and that is what I have started the process of doing. https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=361445840&z=93837971

YardOptimal9329 2025-12-21 02:47

So what’s the remedy? He just gets to do that?

thinkcomp 2025-12-21 03:19

A motion for reconsideration (https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=361445840&z=93837971) and then after that, appeal. Also, since this isn't just a legal error but an issue of judicial ethics, a referral to the California Commission on Judicial Performance.

YardOptimal9329 2025-12-21 04:33

Thank you!

JohnHazardWandering 2025-12-21 04:49

You're overseeing a case against the richest man in the world who has repeatedly run afoul of the SEC for his public comments vs a Stanford law professor and you decide to YOLO that high profile of a case by using a AI and not double check it? This judge needs to be removed for a lack of judgement.

whawkins4 2025-12-21 06:49

Definitely used Grok.

thinkcomp 2025-12-21 07:04

Former SLS CodeX Fellow, not professor, but still...

Dollah_Short 2025-12-21 19:44

Remove the judge from the bench. Every case he presided over for the past few years is now up for appeal.

chrisjdel 2025-12-30 20:21

Yeah, that claim that Elon Musk is the greatest spiritual leader in human history was a dead giveaway. 🤭

chrisjdel 2025-12-30 20:32

My 12 year old son knows that AI is just a helpful starting point to help organize your thoughts. You have to consult real, reliable sources. Confirm everything. Sometimes what ChatGPT says is dead wrong. Even fabricated - you can't really call them lies, since they're generated by something that lacks true consciousness or comprehension. But you mean to tell me this judge doesn't know what the average sixth grader takes for granted?

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