Tesla Model Y Is The Most Defective Car This Year, Germany Says

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Pile of crap. Should be illegal on all roads

We knew that. Junk.

Even more than the cybertruck?! Wow, that's saying something!...

Pretty sure they don't allow cybertrucks in Germany, so the model 3 wins by default

That’s worth a $1T compensation package right there.

Volkswagen scores well here yet is always mediocre in consumer reports reliability survey. Strange?

The Model Y would be a decent $30K car - a slight notch above the Chevy Bolt. Can’t believe anyone pays $45K or more for that

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No, not strange at all. These inspections have nothing to do with everyday reliability. They're for safety and roadworthiness. Most cars go to the shop to be looked over and fixed where needed, before going to these inspections so that they pass. Tesla doesn't offer that kind of service and has also brainwashed their customers that the cars are "maintenance free." So the owners bring them in for the inspection and the cars fail, because Tesla uses cheap components in critical systems (suspension) and no quality control (which explains the many light-related fails)

Unsafe At Any Speed

every tesla is getting a FSD demo, so expect these numbers to skyrocket

That all that while Germany gets the German and Chinese produced versions only… which are documented to be the best ones in quality.

Not at all. VW has maintenance schedule, which allows owners to have issues addressed well before they become a road hazard. Elons lie about Teslas being maintenance free is still wreaking havoc.

Yes, but no maintenance schedule is taking its toll. Properly maintained Teslas would only be an embarrassment to owner, not road hazard to others.

Well this is not new and there is one caveat here: The main reason for Tesla cars doing so bad is lack of maintenance especially with the brakes and other security important parts. Other brands have mandatory checks but Tesla touts a nearly maintenance free car … which it isn’t. If the regular checks were made the car would still not be great regarding defects and quality but much better. However one thing is also noteworthy: Tesla doesn’t have a decent network of repair shops.

Pretty close. Call Nader. Is he still around

I mean you can pay $55k, in equivalent currency, for a volvo XC90. And that is apparently profitable for volvo. I don't know how tesla can compete longterm.

Just as the company and its CEO

Need to pump it up to make elon a trillionaire.

its the TÜV report. Its mostly older model Ys. Not a single juniper was tested in this report. On top of that tesla has no service intervals so obviously there are more to find.

Correct, cybertruck is not street legal in most of the eu, if not all. Only such cars are tested, thus it does not qualify.

This might explain the discrepancy between Volkswagen and Tesla. But it is  strange not seeing Toyota vehicle's anywhere? Unless in so missing something.  This article uses the word defective. That's sems to imply that a more defective vehicle would be less reliable

It's a pass/fail inspection for safety critical components. They don't care about the reliability of the vehicle. Brakes, suspension, lights, tyres are what's manually checked, as well as an external check of the body and frame (rust on structurals, missing/loose panels, etc.) As long as there's no warning lights on, they do not care about the engine, transmission or any other internal system of the car. If a headlight isn't properly adjusted, that's a fail. If the wheel alignment is so bad that it's apparent on the brake check, that's a fail. Which is why it's a common failure for Teslas, they have piss-poor QC for new vehicles at the factories and the dealerships. So, a lot of them go out with poor adjustments. My new Skoda took a lap through the dealer's shop after it was delivered to them, not only to get any grime from the transport off it, but also to make sure the factory QC didn't miss any defects. With my Tesla, they took the protective wrap off, parked it and then the next person to touch it was me, when taking delivery. I had the rear tailgate adjusted because it wasn't closing properly and I had a wheel alignment done because it was atrocious from the factory. Jalopnik didn't go too deep down the list for their article. The Toyota Yaris Cross is right after the B class and the T-Roc (both 3.0%) at 3.2%.

Right? He literally said if he doesn’t get a trillion dollars he won’t be motivated to make robots that serve drinks at the next delayed cybertaxi event.

Its not just us Germans saying so - read quality reports. Year after year, worldwide, bottom of the list.

Only this year?

I appreciate your response and I think it's great. It is still strange to me that those indicators (brakes, suspension, lights) don't correlate strongly with reliability.  It's hard to sift through this kind of data for Tesla's in particular : on one hand CR reports they are mostly unreliable but they also reported they have one of the lowest cost of ownership, below VW and far below Merc. CR used to be biased towards Tesla, but I don't think it's been the case for a while.

Reliability comes from "consumer reports." Unless something breaks and stops the car from being used, it is "reliable" for its owner. Which is exactly why mandated third-party inspections are a thing and also why manufacturers have a service cycle for their vehicles. Most people don't even know how to check their oil, much less actually do it. And of course the cost of ownership is lower. There is no interval service. Money saved on the service itself and also no service to detect any defects before they wreck the car, which cost money to fix. If Teslas actually got serviced as any car should be, the difference in ownership cost would be negligible compared to other EVs.

And people still think Tesla is a luxury brand, lol. Cheaply-made trash.

>Its mostly older model Ys Chuckle, some of these cars are positively ancient - I mean, TSLA has been selling the Model Y in Germany: for a little *over 4 years*! Whay type of legacy dinosaur thinking is it to think a car's suspension would last that long??!?!?

BTW next year Tesla will be destroyed in Euro NCAP crash test results (retroactively even), cause from next year they measure how many physical buttons there are for core functions and if it's easy to get out of the car. Plus how fast the battery catches fire.

> Ford Mondeo (14.3%), and the Tesla Model Y (17.3%). Ignoring the special child. WTF is Ford doing?

Obviously its only 3 year old cars or older, because they have to get inspected the first time 3 years after they have been registered. But 3 year old cars usually dont have defects, many teslas do.

Normal car makers have their dealers "PDI" the cars before delivery. Tesla just ram 1 quarters worth of cars through their "service" centers in the last 2 weeks of the quarter. This just means the last independent quality check gets missed and only picked up 3 years later at a government mandated inspection. The number of RHD Tesla's you see on UK roads clearly shipped with LHD headlights is truly frightening. Of course it won't get picked up until 1st MOT and by that time it's off lease and the new owner's problem....

Other EVs on their annual service replace the cabin air filter, the wiper blades and the brake fluid. They don't replace suspension parts, which commonly fail on Teslas. Poorly made cars start having significant problems after maybe five years. If they're very bad (many American cars are), that's 3-4 years in extreme cases. Most ICE cars start having significant problems after 7-8 years.

The VW e-Golf scores very high in surveys as far as reliability goes.

TUV has never written anything good about any American car ever.

The other cars on the list are of a similar age. That implies pre-Juniper MY’s were poorly designed and built and the jury is still out on Juniper.

Because the people buying teslas are not buying Volvos and people buying teslas are not buying it for the quality.

What core functions does Tesla model Y not have buttons for? The climate controls? Never touch them. Media? Roller buttons. Setting mirrors? Not while you drive.

Brakes and tires can be serviced by any repair center. Nothing else to service beyond cabin filter and wipers, those you can do yourself.

Being Ford.

To be fair, cars typically fail the first test at a higher rate than any other test before 10 years. But Teslas are still the worst at failing the first one.

Wipers. I never touch climate, wipers etc on other cars. I find myself having to adjust both constantly on the Tesla.

Yeah, that’s not how inspections work in Germany. You bring it to a shop and they check anything security relevant anyway. Brakes, tires, suspension such stuff. Sure, many traditional cars have additional work to be done but most BEV don’t need much of these.

Who even buys this stock anymore? 3.6% dilution each year, ridiculous pay packages that far outweigh any potential future earnings… it’s hilarious.

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