Elon Musk wants to bring Tesla’s robotaxis to SF — good luck

Tesla CEO Elon Musk is eyeing San Francisco for his next robotaxi city — to which I say, good luck to you, sir. Musk acknowledged that the company is still waiting on “regulatory approval,” which hints at the uphill company Tesla will face in pushing this process forward. (Get it? Uphill? San Francisco?) The company scored a big win earlier this year when the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) granted Tesla’s application for a ride-hail permit, a required first step in the automaker’s quest to launch a robotaxi service in the state. But the permit does not authorize Tesla to offer rides to the general public or operate a full-fledged ride-hailing service. To operate a commercial robotaxi service in California, any company would need to obtain three permits from the California DMV: testing with a safety driver, fully driverless testing, and deployment of autonomous vehicles. Right now, Tesla only has one of these permits: testing with a safety driver. Read more from Andrew Hawkins: [https://www.theverge.com/tesla/704249/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-sf-california-dmv-permits](https://www.theverge.com/tesla/704249/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-sf-california-dmv-permits)

What robotaxis? The ones that require a human supervisor in the passenger seat, and still crash?

He hasn't even "brought them" to the majority of Austin. Maybe start there??? Such a fucking scam.

Why expand if you still have a human in the seat next to you? This is just as expensive to operate as an Uber. Probably even more expensive since you have remote operators driving the car. What is the point of expanding?

was there a crash?

The robotaxis which have xAi Grok integrated in them.

Stock pump

>The company has only one of three DMV permits required for robotaxis. And it may struggle to answer some questions about safety. Oh my, no - they won't struggle to answer anything. They'll just lie.

As somebody who lived in San Francisco for a number of years, it’s not an easy city to drive in. It’s like those driving video games where the easy levels are flat grid like cities. San Francisco should be one of the last places, not the first.

Yea right. It's trash even with a dip shit in the front seat.

I’m curious about this too. Also wondering how many rides they’ve actually done so far.

Yes, they were such a raving success in Austin.

Expect 10 Robotaxis in a 10 square mile area.

Elmobiles.

It sure would be a shame if no insurance company would take on the risk because they all kept being lit on fire.

>was there a crash? https://insideevs.com/news/764905/tesla-robotaxi-first-crash-parked/

>The robotaxis which have xAi Grok integrated in them. On brand... https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musks-ai-just-called-172650371.html

Since he has to keep a driver in the car he should hire homeless people and call it a hobotaxi.

Is the plan a massive tax write off when the excess stock of Teslas get turned into burning husks littering the sides of roads?

Of course it is. They will be the first goose stepping cars ever. They also have special jew hunt mode.

Based on the videos coming out, not many. But there [was](https://insideevs.com/news/764905/tesla-robotaxi-first-crash-parked/) a minor crash.

https://media.tenor.com/LiDQtigp6kkAAAAM/office-do.gif

same font as the cybertruck logo. imagine the lethality of a cybertruck taxi

Tesla self-insure tho.😄 But your point still stands.

I’m sure San Franciscans will be happy to support musk’s newest venture…..

Come back when you reach Level 4 FSD, Mr. Musk.

When I was 16, I learned to drive in the burbs and I thought I knew everything because it was a stick shift. Then my dad took me to SF to drive. It set my confidence back years.

No one will ride in them…

Yeah, I'll just take an Uber.

SF: How many LiDAR/ radar sensors will be on each vehicle? Musk: We don't use LiDAR/ radar because it's too expensive. SF: Next!

100%. I had the same experience. I’ve been driving for a few years and my parents got me my own car: a 2.5 L Chevy blazer with a four speed stick shift. It was not a very powerful car. I’m in the super steep part of San Francisco stopped at a stop sign facing uphill. A very nice Porsche pulls right up to my bumper. I knew that as soon as I let off the brake, the car would roll back and crushed that Porsche unless I timed it perfectly. I think I put 10,000 miles of wear on that clutch at that intersection. But I didn’t hit the Porsche, so that’s a win.

That’s why I’m so eager to see them in SF 🤣🍿🍿

Yes! The tough terrain PLUS the fact that so many people in San Francisco can’t stand Elon Musk means those vehicles are in for a hard time. The writers are absolutely going to decimate those vehicles. If there is anything value that can be pride off the interior or exterior relatively quickly, the locals are gonna strip that day one.

Excellent opportunity for battery/drive motor replacements!!!

Aren’t operators testing self driving in California required to report on disengagements and other issues. Tesla doesn’t right?

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Uber licensed Waymo didn’t they? It’s a nvidia level 4 system if I recall, it being connected to any EV, would be a safety improvement. The users app and a better system is there, just being properly tested, before they start hiring less people. They lease out cars right now, I wonder how many of those are EV?

They’ll probably need insurance with a state approved carrier as a cab/rideshare/livery service. I’d never let a company self insure on passengers or the cars if it’s a robotaxi or hired car of any kind.

He only wanted that headline.

Same in my city % wise most hate Musk here but that does not matter. Out of millions of people they can find their local stans. Invite only for their cringy influencers. They will get another 20 or so that need to push content to their channels and in turn Tesla they can say they expanded to another city to keep suckers believing they are still in the game. Keep the stock inflated as long as they can. There are plenty that shoot their YouTube videos gushing over how their mind is blown on their blah blah version of FSD in San Francisco. You don’t think they can find another 20 there?

California is by far the largest EV market in US with 1.2M registrations in 2023 (Texas is second with a mere 230K registrations) so alienating its population with political antics was a pretty bad move

Pretty sure it was one of the inspirations for the First Crazy Taxi

Elon Musk said if San Francisco approved Robotaxi, then Tesla will enter SF in 2 months. He knows the strict laws in CA will not approve Robotaxi so he kicks the ball to the CA authority. Doing so, he pump TSLA stock price without doing anything real.

Musk said Robotaxi will enter SF city if it is approved. He knows it won't be approved by CA strict safety laws.

Then they are utterly fucked. With both the bad optics of early issues in Austin, and the vandalism against Teslas I'm unsure how any other provider would accept them.

Clever girls.

It’s hard to insure a regular Tesla never mind a Tesla owned Tesla. Then a crap self driving system.

Now consider that, either they have an employee in there, which means Tesla lose money on every car, or you now have Tesla owned Teslas **with nobody in them!** At the very least they'll be covered in graffiti as soon as they get stuck in traffic. The cameras on the cars can record any vandalism of course, but not much use if people cover their faces to do it.

Oh yeah, borrow some parts, redesign the interior, exterior. Spray paint the cameras with a mask, headlights and tail lights too, windows as well. Spray paint the everything computer. Someone can write malware that just says everything is Nazi computer at tessler, and “enjoy your fiery death” on opening the doors.

He wants to do no such thing. He needs another grift to pump the stock because people are finally, slowly but surely waking up to his scams and fraud. The stock price IS Tesla.

Do you know or have a sense for what will be the reason they don’t allow it.

We will reach level 9 in a few months

so they can crash into waymos 🤪

Do you ever notice when stuff starts to go bad he comes out with this new bullshit and people suck it up in the stock goes up I believe he’s doing it now so when the earnings come out on the 23rd it’ll of pumped and it’ll just come back down to where it was Just a thought

>everything is Nazi computer at tessler I'm stealing that ☝️  I'm still giggling like a schoolboy

Every single time.

I would walk before taking one of those.

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Tesla is a meme stock company that occasionally also sells cars.

Aren’t they crashing like crazy in the small area they’re trying to operate in now

Tesla would be operating from a major disadvantage. Waymo is everywhere in and well known in San Francisco. It’s the known quantity. Tesla would have to prove they are a significantly better option to have a chance. Failure there dooms robotaxi

They’re expanding it once they don’t need a human in the car.

Best case scenario is the city lets him do it and they all get destroyed within the 1st week.