How Did Tesla Self-Deliver A New Car When Its Robotaxi Needs A Human?

They monitored the whole car. FSD works 99% of time, so it isn’t hard to have it working long enough to deliver the car.

I assumed this whole ordeal was tele-operated.

I think the real answer is that they didn’t.

They’re not tele-operating the cars in the sense of someone remote just driving them all the time. They presumably have people who can take over remotely if the car gets stuck (like waymo), though that may be 1 monitor per car at this point. Like, fsd is pretty good, it’s quite likely the car can make it 10 miles with no interventions. It just isn’t reliable enough that you want to set it free for millions of miles of driving on its own

Probably really close by delivery location and on a sunny day under perfect circumstances to a upper level manager in the company. Then publish press release.

There was a small driver who slipped out and Waymo-ed home.

Now you’re asking the right questions

Every other time it works every time.

Nice contextual explanation for people who don't already know that stuff. Of course the soundbite that will be repeated is that Tesla did one automated delivery from the factory, and while it glosses over all the caveats, that's enough for most people to know.

I thought it was illegal to have an unpermitted driverless car driving on public roads ?

They have human safety operators in the Robotaxis because Tesla knows it would look bad if their passenger got hurt. There was no one in the car they were delivering so they're not super concerned about whether it runs over a child at a school bus stop on the way to the big delivery.

Would make way more sense that it was just on FSD. Monitored yes, tele-operated no.

You missed the video? Its there for all to see if you want to watch it.

It was something like 17 miles away, 30 minute drive

Is it a prison crime or a fee crime? Because fee crimes are only crimes if you’re poor.

That's why not live streamed. Uploaded after delivery. Imagine stock value drop if it ran into an accident.

Read somewhere they made it one day sooner than scheduled because of rain the next day forecast.

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It's the F-ing Elmo-Lies. Which people still seem to be believing and accepting. It's just nuts.

And if it failed and the remote operator had to emergency stop it, we would never know. Hell, maybe this wasnt the first attempt..

Pre-planned route, smoke and mirrors. Again, this company has been faking FSD for over half a decade now on camera, and even employees involved with the videos said that the videos were faked.

Fully mapped out, several tries and takes …

Don't forget the cherry picked route. It's not like they randomly picked the destination and live streamed the delivery. It was all recorded and released only after success.

Who gives a shit how they did it? It’s a use case literally no one is looking for. Happen to live within a couple of hundred miles of the factory and like to make a major purchase based purely on trust with no ability to refuse delivery? Have we got the service for you!

Exactly

I often say that fElon has history’s worst case of NIH Syndrome, but he sure did take a page out of the Soviet space program’s playbook.

Everyone needs to stop believing all the bullshit Elon and Tesla claim. Neither entity can be trusted. This includes the accuracy of $TSLA financial reporting.

because they didn't.

A handpicked route that was driven countless times to record every detail. Cars along the route, ensuring this Tesla had a clear route without any surprises. And a teleoperator as a backup. So probably one of the most expensive car deliveries in history.

The video doesn't prove the route wasn't picked ahead of time and preplanned. It doesn't even prove it wasn't staged. Can we see just one more instance of this?

I think they likely did, but with a follow car and a kill switch. The question is how many tries they had to take to get a successful one on their cherry-picked path.

Likely? LMAO. There are photos of Tesla employees at the house of the person the car was being delivered to handing over the car to them. They absolutely followed it in a second car(s).

if they didn't cherry pick the route i'd give FSD even odds of a catastrophic crash in a few miles vs a successful navigation.

just like the paint it black video they faked so many years ago? Now that we know it was faked, despite the tesla cult and elon insisting it was a perfect representation, we can't just fall for the same thing a second time.

Just because you don't see a human there in the front doesn't mean they weren't present. The fact that it wasn't a big ordeal ahead of time tells me this is another "Paint It Black" magic trick.

This is the dumbest stunt anyway. If someone delivers a pizza, I’m like “cool”. It’s not a big deal, and I’ll eat a lot of pizzas in my life, so not having to go pick them up could add up to some real time and convenience savings. But, a car? I’ll just get my lazy ass up and get it. How often does that happen. Go pick it up you lazy fuck.

Ya, like remember when they first introduced Optimus? Who knew those were actually dancing humans, those sneaky bastards.

By cheating and lying.

It was teleoperated.

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huh? FSD operates as a level 2 system right now for all privately owned teslas. It's a hands on, pay attention system. Where it's operating 'autonomously' it has follow cars and a teleoperator 1:1 per car monitoring it at all times in a highly mapped subsection of south austin where tesla limited it to simple intersections only. It's literally more than a decade behind waymo. Even if they weren't behind waymo, which, again, at least a decade behind, $TSLA stock would still be massively overvalued. Tesla stock holders are in for a very rough ride in the future.

There were definitely rails, trip specific programming and probably had other cars on street pacing the car in such a way to make sure it arrived. Car has cameras. If this is legit - release the footage. Even better, go to the mall and have a member of the press pick a stranger to provide their address and demonstrate another self delivery. If can’t repeat the event with a different variable, then it’s staged.

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tesla isn't just behind in autonomy - where they're finally doing what waymo was doing 10 years ago (but waymo did it better), they're also behind on batteries, big time. "Tesla is a $0 without FSD" - elon musk i would argue that even if tesla did have FSD doing everything it promised for all the years it was promised, it would still be absolutely massively overvalued. The stock price is fundamental to the tesla grift. They've already had a lot of serious safety incidents including at least one crash in Austin. And they just started, just in a tiny area, and just with a few cars. Again, 10 years late.

It's a scam like the last video around 2016 when they faked self driving and got caught. I'd they could self drive or self deliver... they would all be doing it already.

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He announced it would happen on June 28, but it actually was done a day early, which tells me they were planning on doing multiple takes (and maybe they still did).

The issue is really why not develop a generalised solution using vision AND lidar? It would clearly be safer and better - “if object in front of vehicle then stop” doesn’t need much learning in a neural net… mind you this is the company that saves having the cost of a turn indicator switch/stalk

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you're talking about moving goalposts? bro, tesla promised cross-country autonomy by the end of 2017 where your tesla could drive itself from LA to NY and pick you up. They promised FSD would be safer than human drivers by a factor of 10, and we see constant videos from pro-tesla influencers of it making dangerous mistakes repeatedly - the kinds of mistakes that would lead to giving an uber driver 1 star. It's garbage, their approach is garbage, and its progress has been absolutely glacial. It's not safe and FSD should absolutely not be allowed to be used on public streets at all.

It was also basically straight down a highway with maybe 4 turns to make between the factory and the delivery location Have heard it was also a custom software version that was downgraded prior to handover and I suspect very much it was told to just follow a car in front that was recording it and not do anything stupid like try to overtake to be more certain that it would behave for the delivery.

You drank all the cool aid. You can have all the ai you want, there are situations where vision sucks. Both for humans and robots. Limiting the car to vision only, not even stereoscopic vision leads to a bunch of the problems Tesla has and at best enables it to see about as well as a human with one eye closed. Meanwhile the Chinese are doing hot swappable batteries (literally 60 seconds by robot) and building batteries that can be punctured, heated to several hundred degrees and still work without causing a fire due to thermal runaway.

Only thing it does for anyone is enable Tesla to repo the car

Remotely driven.