Personally I think this will sell like hotcakes. The design is nice all around.
https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-debuts-stylish-powerful-2026-c-hr-battery-electric-vehicle/
But does it have Fake Self Driving?
I love Toyotas and really want them to do well in the EV market but that thing is so ugly.
Needs >275 wheels
Better looking than the stale Tesla’s!
Model Y is mid-size suv. CHR is sub compact.
Doesn’t look like an egg. ✅
1. It's ugly 2. It must offer: A) self-driving B) constant update, at least for 5 years
It’s so funny how aesthetics are so subjective because I think this looks pretty nice. It’s giving Volvo.
Crazy concept, but some people don’t want constant updates. Just make it right the first time. I don’t want my car to be a variable in my life.
Looks pretty sharp. Hope they can keep the wheels on this one.
Toyota have best build quality in the world, meanwhile Tesla is opposite end of that. This one wont be falling apart like Model Y after 3 years, getting all squeaky.
CHR is a Toyota. End of story.
In what world is it a MY competitor it is much, much smaller. Even the bigger BZ-4x is quite a bit smaller than the MY.
This is a sub compact.
The fully electric C-HR+ (as it's called outside NA) is larger than the current HEV/PHEV C-HR (which isn't even available in NA). It will be about the same size as Corolla Cross, enough to technically make it a compact SUV, not subcompact. Still smaller than a MY or Rav4 though, so probably too small for most US tastes. Will probably be quite popular in Europe though.
100% this
Range?
Let’s go!!
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Get the Frunk out of here. Seriously, if you are going to make an EV, put a big frunk in it or you are doing it wrong.
This is how you make a good looking electric vehicle. Tesla should hire better car designers.
Will it fall apart like the model Y? I took a Uber a few weeks ago in a 3 yr old model Y and going down a highway it felt like I was on a old country road.
Funny how polarising Toyota's new design language seems to be. It's like everyone either loves or hates their new models, with few opinions in between. Personally I really like the current C-HR design (enough to own the PHEV model), so I also think this new C-HR+ looks really good. Makes me think of a cross between the current C-HR and a bZ4x, which, I suppose it's pretty much what it is lol
Let’s be fair, it’s an egg with creases
Indeed. I think the Y has really more space.
290 miles, it's right at the start of the article.
I dig origami
Elon stated from day one that if Tesler doesn't succeed at FSD the company would be worth nothing. The guy is a liar and a cheat, but he's not stupid and he told the truth that one time. So other EV competitors aren't really relevant to Teslers future (it's always been assumed they would lose that market). Failure at FSD, which will become publicly obvious with robotaxis, is what will destroy Tesler. And my guess is the only reason they are pushing forward with robotaxis is Elon is hoping with enough pressure on employees maybe they'll pull a miracle out of the fire. But they won't. FSD will officially be considered a failure. And Tesler will drop to near zero, as Elon himself predicted would happen.
Is this one of those cars that Toyota laughing calls a 'self charging hybrid'? Or is this an actual full BEV (therefore making sense since it's seen in this thread as a Model Y competitor)?
I use HW4 FSD (S) daily for 2-3 hours to commute in one the busiest areas in the U.S. It would not matter any other things - even ICE versus Electric - a next vehicle without Tesla’s FSD would be an absolute non-starter for me. But I love totally uneducated, un-experienced Reddit trolls that can “explain” to me the number one vehicle feature in the world because they have Googled a few articles on the interwebs and became all-knowledgeable. Thank you for your service. LOL
Volvo what? Volvo what?!
Model Y is top of the EV line. Too bad its a nazikar.
Question: Two or three years ago Japanese EVs were garbage compared to the Korean or Chinese ones because they sunk so much money in the dead end named hydrogen cars. Are this cars are good or are they only looking good?
Eventually it will be a commodity. Tesla is not ahead in this space.
Now explain to me, a HW3 Model Y owner, how that helps us HW3 owners? It’s not even close to being there.
94 comment karma dude calling ppl “trolls” is incredible
Chr is much smaller than model y. Like two classes smaller.
A HEV is by definition “self-charging.” Toyota’s been making them for 23 years now and they’re widely considered to be among the world’s most reliable cars. (Prius, RAV4 hybrid, Camry hybrid, Highlander hybrid). But no, this one is a BEV. Here’s Motor Trend describing the powertrain: *Given that the C-HR shares most of its powertrain components with the updated 2026 Toyota bZ, performance is similar. American-market C-HRs get only the larger 74.7-kWh battery pack, the smaller pack offered elsewhere in the world (a 57.7-kWh unit, which will be offered on the ‘26 bZ). And every single one gets dual electric motors—bZs can be had with a single motor driving the front axle—good for 338 hp and, Toyota claims, a roughly 5-second zero-to-60-mph time.* *Toyota also says the C-HR will deliver 290 miles of range, slightly below the 314-mile maximum delivered by the new bZ..* https://www.motortrend.com/news/2026-toyota-c-hr-plus-ev-first-look-review So it’s also pretty quick.
It’s a a Toyota. You know, the people who make the world’s most famously reliable cars and have for decades. I would bet solid money it’s gonna be much more durable than any Tesla.
They will be both: Hybrid Synergy Drive and full electric.
Hardware wise, Toyota always knew how to make electric motors and cars in general. They did suck on user experience, especially software . I didn't see that being improved in any of the cars I recently have driven.
Mad
They call that design. Its so it doesn't look like an egg
looks like a pill bug to me
Isn’t model y competitor the RAV4? Feels like a C-Hr is the stepping stone to all-ev RAV4. Looking at Toyota history: all hybrids started with sienna, next Camry, then RAV4. If Toyota does similar plan for EV, first bz4u or whatever the name, chr, and if Toyota sees a winning path, there may be all EV rav4. Toyota is executing faster so maybe EVZ RAV4 is imminent.
Just don't you know go driving around sunset. Your FSD might get confused and crash.
Tesla FSD owner here, HW3, and it sucks. Will try to kill you if you let it. Full stop. Anyone who says otherwise is fanboying. I believe that HW4 performs better, but autonomy beyond what has been currently achieved is a fallacy....just like "full autonomy on HW3" was/is a fallacy. Dont believe the hype. First and last Tesla for me, and I look forward to other manufacturers doing a better job with self driving, while making honest claims about capabilities and features.
This is a BEV. There's a bit of confusion going on with naming since the C-HR name is currently used for a HEV/PHEV model in most markets. But that version is not available in the NA market since 2024 model year, probably since the first generation C-HR (2018-2023) didn't do to well there. This new BEV model is not just a fully electric version of the current C-HR, but is a different and slightly bigger car. So in most markets it will be sold as a C-HR+, alongside the current generation C-HR that will continue as HEV and PHEV models. But in the NA market the fully electric one will use the C-HR name. Personally I think Toyota is making the naming needlessly confusing here, but nobody at Toyota bothered to ask for my opinion.
He's a shill. Tesla subs are full of them.
Build quality is much better than Tesla. And Toyota has the dealer network and parts infrastructure to actually make timely repairs.
China is coming quickly on this front.
Tha Geely you say?
Not quite. There will still be a HEV and PHEV C-HR, yes, but the BEV C-HR is not the same car as the (P)HEV C-HR.
If Tesla promotes Elmo to board member and hires a responsible CEO who spearhead a redesign of FSD with additional sensors, they might get the job done. Video analysis and AI won't be enough, and other manufacturers will pass Tesla in this area if Elmo stubbornly sticks to the current course.
I always thought Tesla’s were kind of ugly and that they all look a like. Even before the Elon, pill addicted, meltdown. Lol.
Nice design, specs look good but the max charging rate is too slow at 150Kw. Extended range batt charging will take too long.
At last I always wanted one full electric. 5 year late for me though. Maybe my next car
Waymo’s have a ton of crazy cameras…I’m surprised Tesla is trying to do FSD with so little hmmm 🤔
When BYD and their competitors get access to the US, it's over for Tesla
> robotaxis latest news is that the human drivers in 'robotaxis' will be in the passenger seat. If true it's a guaranteed success or guaranteed failure depending on how you define success/failure.
Only problem with the CHR is how cramped and claustrophobic the back is. I was about to buy the PHEV but ended up getting a Kona instead.
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> Tesla should hire better car designers. I hate Tesla for many reasons, but I actually like their car designs (other than the 3's ridiculous rear-view-obstructor)
> 23 years 28 years
Oh thank god someone else agrees. Whoever signed off on the new Y design needs to be removed. It looks awful on the exterior. They would’ve been better off doing a Cyber version of the Y than whatever the current blob is.
fewer nazis tho
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Not sure why you got downvoted. You are 100% right. This is a smaller cat than Model Y. The BZ4X is the Model Y competitor. This is smaller CHR has always been a small car.
Oh for sure, they’re behind on electric. But I’d put money on them getting it right pretty quick. The tech is changing fast enough that first mover advantage can turn into a disadvantage, if you lock yourself into a platform that is going to age quickly, as Nissan, GM, and now Tesla are finding out. Being like Apple and waiting out the market for a while may end up working to Toyota’s (and Honda’s) advantage. There aren’t many secrets to BEV design. It’s mostly about battery tech development now. Toyota has huge resources and great engineering.
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Never thought I’d say this about a Toyota (outside the new Prius) but damn that looks nice!
Yeah, it's not the most practical or family friendly car. Though to be fair to Toyota, I don't think they're trying to market it as one either. It wasn't a factor for me, since it's mostly just my dog riding in the back seats :). But anyone that wants room for either child seats or fully grown adults in the back would be better off with a different model.
I know people enjoy the minimal design of Tesla interiors. But all I can think of when I sit in one is that whoever designed it has designed cars for humans as long as a real auto manufacturer. Seriously felt like a wood frame with felt glued to it.
Almost all car companies have lane keep and smart cruise control. This is all that matters
We know who signed off
And you know the build quality will actually be good
When did cars start having those impossible to remember names?
If it's anything like the bZ4x it won't sell. They really shit the bed with that car.
Depends on which market you have in mind. I suspect it will struggle in the US, like the first generation did. It's still going to be a small car by US standards and the design makes it less practical than the similarly sized Corolla Cross. But here in Europe the first and current gen C-HRs are among the best selling Toyota models, at least in some countries, so I think the C-HR+ should fit right in here.
Only if you ll compare only the peak charging rate. Only Tesla charges like that, where it hits a very high rate for 8 seconds and then backs off. It's why the Model Y charges in 25 minutes, and the much larger battery in the Lightning charges in 31 minutes, despite the Model Y having a massively higher peak charging rate. The lightning has a sustained higher average charge rate. The Tesla hits a big number, but chokes.
Someone else speculated that they'll have a whole set up in the passanger seat... like they do with driver's ed cars. The "passanger" will be able to apply the brakes and maybe even steer using a joystick. The whole thing is nothing but Elon putting on a silly show because he said they'd be ready. It's quite obvious why all their top talent have been quitting. No one wants to be there when a Tesla runs someone over.
When you actually use it for what it's meant for it's great; ignore the stupid name. HW4 and just used it for a 1500 mile road trip last week with 0 critical disengages, but you know damn well I would not let it run through the Colorado mountains and was watching it like a hawk. Just like blue and super cruise it's a great highway tool for long drives, but can work in city if you wanna get to your destination slower.
Please stop with the dogshit Tesla-fied interiors. WE DONT WANT A TOUCHSCREEN GLUED TO THE DASH.
Oof sounds like one of the last first Gen hardware Ys which were abysmal. Both the original 3s and 1s were built with duct tape and spit. They changed them mid 23 to be halfway decent, just don't go knocking on panels, they sound cheap as all hell.
Peak charging rates aren't as important as average rate over the 10-80% SOC range. In that regard the C-HR+ looks to be on-par or possibly better than its direct competition (like the Kia EV3 or Skoda Enyaq).
Ignore the comments and downvotes here. I’m with you. I’m guessing most people haven’t tried it. I find it pretty incredible everytime I use it. My car doesn’t have it, but I’ve used it on a cybertruck and a refreshed model 3. People claiming the shit that Mercedes and Chevy have is better are just as delusional as the Tesla fanbois who gobble up everything Elon says.
>Tesler non biased opinion incoming 🙄
RIP tesler.
Nice! I like the look
Take it up with president taco.
This may be the car I've been waiting to replace my 2008 with.
I hope they fix the slow charging problem
Looks a thousand times better.
It will depend on the final specs.
You need to meet more people.
The I completely ironic part is that Tesla uses lidar on their test rigs to validate the video analysis. As if to say it's a good idea, somehow, to do just that.
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> the number one vehicle feature in the world Oof. That's some prime copium. Not to mention delusion.
The 2026 bZ that this is based off, fixed all of the bZ4X shortcomings. You can read about it online. Toyota recently announced the new models.
That’s because the suspension in the model 3 and Y were genuinely terrible. I think they’ve improved it in the latest updates.
They remind me a lot of Nissan Altima design
Isn’t that why they use CarPlay and Android Auto? I feel like they should just let apple or google run their entire car OS.
Toyota build quality combined with EV simplicity makes me imagine a tank of a car that lasts for 20 years and 300k miles with next to zero maintenance
The funny part is there is a 100% chance that some of these are Elon hahaaha
At least the original Model Y had a reasonably cohesive exterior design. The Juniper just looks like they tacked a Clusterfuck light bar onto the front end.
My Subaru Crosstrek is also full self driving lol
He’s MAGA. He deserves to own a Tesla.
Self Charging is just marketing and it's lies. I know a couple of people who are convinced their car is self charging. The only way electrons get into that battery is by the burning of fossil fuel.
I like!
Technically also from regenerative braking, although to be fair that recaptures energy from gas-generated momentum. I haven’t heard the term “self charging” before, I just think of that as the standard meaning of “hybrid” unless it’s a PHEV. Yeah people who think energy comes from nowhere probably need an intro to physics class.
When the new 3 got announced I got excited about just getting that same language on the new Y, just like the previous 3/Y.... but nope... they HAD to insert CT dna into the thing. The original 3/Y front will always be hideous to me... looks like a frumpy/dumb car.
>number one vehicle feature in the world Damn that's crazy! Where can I see the rankings for this?
I have to disagree with your he’s not stupid comment. For anything related to interpersonal relationships he seems pretty stupid. The whole Doge thing destroying his brand was pretty stupid.
I feel like this deserves more recognition than a "model Y competitor". It's not a Tesla which is a massive selling point, but looking at it I think would make a great car for my family ride 😎
That battery is way too small. Come on we should be getting 310 miles as a minimum by now.
Yeah, I wish we could get more affordable EVs that aren't SUV wannabe bubble cars. I can't imagine its the design of the ugly ass Tesla's that made them so popular.
Yup you got it, where does the energy come from to perform that regenerative braking!
Pedestrian safety regulations made all cars rounder, and then most SUVs started to look like eggs / potatoes. I don't know if we'll ever go back.
He can behave stupidly, most likely due to the drugs. Or because it serves his purpose to distract people while he's actually doing other things (like with Doge, stealing all the gov data). In term of IQ, he's not low IQ. But he is a con artist, which then requires he says all kinds of things that are wrong, and in that sense make him look stupid. But he's doing it on purpose, mostly to get his billions in bonuses.
What can AA/AppleCar give you ? SatNav + Spotify (et. Al). Right? With modern car the software does much more, from managing the less or more annoying "safety" systems, such as LDA or ISA to trip planning with battery SOC, weather, car weight and route profile in mind. Battery conditioning. Drivers profiles and switching between them. Layout and features of the dash. And many more things. Some cars use Android Automotive. Exp. Renault's or Polestar. But it is not ideal either, and you end up dependant on US entity. Yeah, it is open source... but it is still google apps and ecosystem. Not acceptable in today climate honestly. Every single Toyota I'm driving is solid, but similar to the rest of Japan, still in the year 2000. Koreans do that much better.
I am all for Toyota, and of course big F YOU Elon and your shitty cars, BUT isn’t the C-HR way smaller than a model y? The comparison seems misplaced.
The man that looks like a potato made an egg
Lots of gas guzzlers don't look like bubble mobiles. The non-bubble mobile options in the EV market are few and far between and more of them are $$$$$.
I don’t care what they achieve at this point. It’s all built on a decade of massive fraud. Tesla must die!
They can give access to the car data to apple to do most of that stuff with CarPlay. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/carplay-ultra-the-next-generation-of-carplay-begins-rolling-out-today/
If that were true, cyber trucks couldn't be a thing.
They don’t meet pedestrian safety standards in most countries
This guy's a tried and true consumerist. Just loves the gadgets and the products. Knows all about them. Totally preoccupied with stuff. But only the best stuff! Work work work buy stuff! This is what life is all about.
To me looks like they ripped off the Hyundai Kona.
The original C-HR is one of the nicest cars I have ever driven. Excellent use of space, nice and sprightly and very comfortable to drive. The early lane watch and adaptive cruise control worked like a charm. Love to see the EV finally arriving.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I’ll still go with the theory that somebody (fElon) at Tesla thinks the Clusterfuck is a halo vehicle.
Huh? I like a 15 min break every 200km or so. That’s all it takes. Slower loading is good for battery longevity, so normally one should charge at 22kW or at a regular socket over night.
PSA on the CH-R… it’s way smaller than a Y… it’s not a “competitor”. The rear seats don’t have much room and weirdly have a very limited view out their own windows. It’s a Corolla hatch on roids. Looks funky for a Toyota tho. PSA on Toyota… probably not an EV producer to cheerlead. Few automakers have done more to try and mess with the EV market from their misleading “self charging” marketing on hybrids, to so far fictional news releases about their imminent solid state batteries, marketing their mirai and hydrogen hard (on behalf of fossil fuel companies? If not, why?), publishing distorted analyses of the environmental costs of EVs, support of politicians with anti Ev mandates.
>Only problem with the CHR is how cramped and claustrophobic the back is. This is a completely unrelated car to the ICE CH-R, it's more of a coupe version of the bZ and is a size class larger (compact instead of subcompact).
He's getting downvoted because he's wrong and so are you. The EV C-HR+ is a compact based on the bZ and it's e-TNGA platform and is a size class larger than the ICE C-HR.
Yes, and?
That's literally what it said in the design docs.
Cybertrucks are basically illegal in the EU, completely banned for road use in the UK. The only reason they aren't illegal in the US is because the US doesn't have any passenger safety regulations, and manufacturers only have to self-certify compliance with the FMVSS.
No one cares
Toyota is the biggest selling car manufacturer in the world, year after year. Plenty of people care.
Is it geofenced ?
and yet we don’t care. ;)
Hasn't one of the biggest issues been with the other Toyota EVs been that they have pretty terrible range combined with very slow charging?
Are there 4 doors?
He pulled it out of his ass! Pretty sure I screwed up that quote, but fuck it.
If it's anything like our Rav4, it'll have stalks, paddle shifters, etc. The humongous screen I'm still not a fan of, nor of the LCD rearview mirror, which we turned off the first week.
My bad, and even more to the point.
The physics of a vehicle traveling through air is quite simple to an egg traveling through a chicken’s pygostyle. Evolution is usually pretty good at finding the most efficient solutions.
And how do the wheels stay on this time?
Nice
Seems you care enough to tell everyone you don't care.
This dude might actually be the ket lord himself lol go look at his comments, reeks of Elon.
Although a very good looking car. I’m going to GUESS the software sucks and lags.
Took a peek at your comment history. Sir, if you aren’t getting a check from Tesla then you really need to find out why. I’ve seen bots that are less over the top with their Tesla praise.
It has buttons. I like it.
looks very similar to the UI in newer lexuses and high end toyotas. working in the used industry i’ve driven a few (plus teslas, including CT) and they strike a much better balance between infotainment and physical controls.
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Car and driver calls the EV C-HR+ a sub compact. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64073797/toyota-c-hr-plus-ev-revealed/
Those are folds…
Sinking ship that shareholders can't admit.
Redline did an early look on this vehicle and its about as anemic as you would expect from Toyota in terms of performance. I dont know why Toyota decided to chop off its balls in the sake of converting all their cars into boring old man grocery getters. Some of us want both, groceries with a side of performance which is why the Model Y and Model X sell so well.
It looks good but if it’s built on the same platform as the bZ4X it’s going to have crappy range and slow charging.
my m3 lease can’t expire quickly enough
Having owned three Toyotas before my current model Y, I disagree... I like the simplicity of the Tesla, and would consider buying this next time I also don't care if it takes longer to charge since I charge overnight at home. As long as the charging port is in the same spot as my modey Y, and it uses the NACS charger, I'm good
Science!
This and the Bz will start to turn Toyota owners.
Exactly, both car models have been completely revamped for 2026+, almost no comparison to prior years, except for the exterior design.
The bz4X has been renewed for 2026 as well, huge improvements: [https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-bz-all-electric-suv-adds-range-charging-and-exterior-updates-for-2026/](https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-bz-all-electric-suv-adds-range-charging-and-exterior-updates-for-2026/)
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