if waymo tells me they have reached unlimited power i would believe it. But if fElon tells me he achieved that water is wet i know he once again is lying. Come on people waymo is just doing its thing no stock pumps no outrageous claims just go. Tesla always tells us how great it is while delivering very little and recently nothing at all.
To be fair, Waymo has robotaxis without any safety drivers. So that headline is unfair. Tesla however, won't be doing that anywhere any time soon.
This article is attempting to put both companies in the same boat. Waymo is infinitely more successful and advanced than Tesla’s robotaxi service. I regularly use Waymo’s and love them. Feel safe riding in them. I rode in a Tesla with FSD twice and on both occasions had to intervene or else we would have straight up died. There’s no comparison between these companies.
I don't understand how it's legal for tesla to use the branding "fully self driving" when it's really not.
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Who would be enforcing that?
Or possibly ever with just cameras. Aren't there still drivers in those tunnels under Vegas?
FTC / State Attorneys General???
Why would Tesla put the 'safety monitor' in the passenger seat, it's much less safe for them to be there. If the safety monitor has to intervene then they have no steering wheel or pedals, just a few buttons to find and press. Also their sightlines are going to be less precise than if they were just in the driver's seat all along. It's just objectively worse, and is done just for appearances. That is not a good safety culture.
“What we mean, is that you’re fully driving YOURself.”
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Tesla is out of the game, the only other company I care about is Mobileye.
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Kyle Barr appears to have a track record writing about switch 2 and mobile phone stories he really should not have been tasked to catch up on the whole self driving area in a weekend.
"the first Waymo cars in NY" okay, so we're just gonna forget about Arizona, California, and Texas huh?
Tesla is aggressively promoting robotaxi and pivoting to it to distract that their core business is collapsing because of self inflicted brand image destruction
Easy when you buy the government
# **It is illegal in New York state** to operate a car without a person ready to take control of the vehicle to avoid an accident. Waymo also announced it will begin pushing for a change to that state law. And any company offering a self-driving system officially requires approval from New York City, human driver or not. **Three second google search.** Waymo is abiding by the law. Problems with that?
The article summary is an attempt to make it sound as if Waymo and Tesla are in the same situation with regards to their self driving technology.
Now if only we can convince the whales to stop pumping retail and just take a loss.
Nobody wants or needs robotaxis work on something worthwhile for Pete’s sake
For sure. Waymo is ready in New York but of course they will do some testing initially. There is a big difference of a company that has zero experience compared to one with millions of miles already driven with no safety monitor.
Weird how author provided citations to all the benign Waymo failures (eg 600 parking tickets), but no link for the claim they crash into emergency vehicles…
This ~~robo~~taxi with an operator sitting in the front seat sure sounds innovative. I could see this ~~robo~~taxi thing taking off, especially if the operator is a good conversationalist.
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It appears to be for the Austin testing phase of RoboTaxi in Model Ys. It obviously can’t happen in the CyberCab though. Still lots of work to do.
What you ppl fail to understand is that a few people dying while action like crash test dummies for Tesla is a compromise that they are absolutely willing to make.
What a joke. And some people still see Elon as something other than a charlatan
Right, but it's pretty obvious that the author is trying to draw misleading parallels.
Both systems are little more than marketing BS. They are decades away from real autonomy. Waymo is non-scalable because it relies on high precision 3D maps.
Yeah no. I’ve used Waymo and have navigated some very complex parking and rural neighborhood streets. And it did it with precision with moving obstacles and cramped spaces. It is remarkable.
lol… there is no cybercab
There are at least 20 prototypes based on the release event. But it would be accurate to say that have not yet been made in volume and none has yet be deployed on the RoboTaxi network.
Wayve seems positive (at least from the UK media). Hard to find actual unbiased data on many companies though.
Partial, Teleoperated Self Driving. Or PTSD for short
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