FSD Trial with new Tires

30 day trial as a reward for overpaying for tires?

It’s almost certainly cheaper to buy a full set elsewhere and buy a month of FSD

What were they asking for this set of tires?

Sounds like a bunch of marketing bullshit for an overpriced product.

I just checked the app and it was $300/per tire for the front and $335/per tire for the rear. This is all before installation and everything. Also, they are a summer tire.

Damn! That’s too much

Omg that’s highway robbery. Definitely cheaper to buy tires elsewhere and get a month of fsd

Cost to replace full set of OEM Pirellis on 2025 MP3 is nearly $1800. They’re ripping people off who might think they need special “EV tires” for their Tesla.

Honda worked with Bridgestone to make the RE92 tire for the very efficient Honda Insight. Made roughly a 10mpg difference vs other tires. This feels oddly similar, but also took them long enough.

It is recommended to get high load tires, but yes, EV-specific tires are a scam.

It's actually common for manufacturers to work with tire manufacturers to make special tires... and $300 is unfortunately about right. Just go aftermarket when the time comes.

i bet we all get an FSD trial a week before thanksgiving.

I overpaid for tires at the dealer last week after having a blowout on the highway. They charge you $130 if you don’t then replace or repair your tires with Tesla after taking their “free” loaner wheel”. Anyway- yes, I have free FSD for a month. Should be a year for what they charged.

The Continental Pro Contact RX is my OE tire. $305 from Tesla or $298 from Discount Tire. Surprisingly not a huge ripoff.

Same here and labor was $140 total for a full set

Not necessarily. EV performance tires are a scam. Some of the others are fine. You get excellent noise reduction with Hankooks for example.

🤣 🤣 🤣

Tesla approved tires aren't new tho, you can see them designated under the "size" field in Tirerack for example. It'll say TS0, T1, T2, etc. I've been buying these for a few years now. They're probably using FSD as a way to promote/bring awareness to these tires and give people the extra push to buy them 🤷‍♂️

Except Tesla charges you for every tire rotation and balance and it’s free at discount tire

Usually that is at the sacrifice of stopping distance, cornering, or wet/snow performance.

That’s why I go to discount to rotate tires . They’ve been rotating my tires that I haven’t bought from there. I will buy from them again in the future.

Have you seen the price of tires for actual EV tires. Also for those of us that need every bit of range out of the battery. It makes a 10 to 15% difference in range going with a cheaper tire.

Seems worth it for the $8 a year I'll save.

Remember when everything from speaker wire to headphones and lens cleaners were sold as, “Digital Ready?”

In my car history, I’ve owned Continental tires twice, Michelins 3 times, Coopers twice, Hancook, Firestone, Goodyear. By far Continental’s were the worst. More nails, one set had a major defect that they blamed on a wheel bearing. Replaced with Michelins and went away. Anyway, I won’t buy Continental’s again.

The higher price for “T” rated tires is some have the foam liner that reduces their noise.

That and their free tire repair (again, even tires you didn't buy from them) are what made me a loyal customer.

So, you're blaming Continental for getting nails? Nails are random events; the fact that random samples cluster sometimes is not attributable to where the clusters happen.

I got the Pirelli Scorpion Zero AS Plus 3 NCS for $1800 with the tire certs this week. 50k mile warranty.

Not scientific by any means. But I was plugging them 6 times a year at least. I’ve never ever experienced that frequency with other tires. The defect on the one set was the deal breaker for me. Since then, other mechanic and gear head guys have mentioned issues with Continental tires.

Only getting that range boast with the OEM by reducing the tread depth to 9/32 compared to 10/32 which is standard for this class and size of tire. You are getting better range but 10% less tire life and potentially poorer poor weather performance. There is nothing special or unique about the OEM tire.

Which don't actually reduce noise. Tire rack did a very good video on this.

/s I hope

Have you priced tires lately?

They lower frequency which lowers percieved noise.

Yes, I had a truck I put tires on that cost close to that, a much bigger tire

They do not. The foam is not dense enough. Air travels through it far too easily. To reduce or change the noise, you need significantly more mass. Just a marketing gimmick. https://youtu.be/IiQLsDsGOUo?si=MKFlyu3qyhpPSfUK

What tires were they? That’s not an apples to apples comparison anyways.

For most people they probably aren't that sensitive to the noise/frequency change. But there is a difference, and it is noticeable when driving over certain surfaces.

How do these compare to the Hankook ion ev-specific tires?

My tire shop charges $25 per tire to balance and mount. I just buy the tires on Amazon and pay the shop $100.

So I went to Tesla for a rotation. They were way cool. They said almost all reputable tire stores will rotate Tesla tires for free. (As long as the have the right equipment) so I have been going to Tire King and yup. Free every time. The Tesla shop people go there also.

However, there is a quantifiable difference between EV tires and normal tires in terms of range.

When I went through the prompts for Hankook S1, $260 each for 18”, unsure of installation fees.

Judging from info I’ve seen from people who seem to know more than I do, that sounds correct. My fallback (as opposed to spending hours on research) is to rely on: 1. Manufacturer’s recommendation 2. People who deal with it full time (i.e. your local trusted tire shop pros).😎

That’s much more reasonable IMO

Not a truly valid test. They tested on custom made tires, not standard production level “T” series tires. I’d like to see them test against production tires that have both foam and non-foam variants. Even so they did notice more quiet performance over certain road conditions. Metered measurements over certain surfaces had over 3db reduction. Sound level being logarithmic means it’s twice the sound level.

These should be great in the snow

Cries in staggered fitment. (Tears of joy) -M3P

Yeah that sucks. Burning through a set quicker!

Any other erroneous words of wisdom you’d like to share with the class?

Hmm, fsd still dosent avoid potholes and yet is conveniently added to every new set of tires you buy… how interesting 🤔 /s

What are the 3 best tyre options to choose for a 2019 model 3 in 2025 then? I will need to buy new set of 4 in spring as my summer tyres need replacement.?

So basically it’s $100 discount for a new set of tires.

Our odometer is sus it keeps reading longer distances than we actually travel. I bike the same trip to my charger And back Tesla calls it 4.1 miles but it’s 3.8 miles

I end up just replacing them in pairs. The rears wear like 30% faster. Although when I had a regular AWD Model 3, I got a Tesla to do a mobile tire rotation ($75 during COVID) and they said I didn't actually need one, the wear was even.

Costco or Sam free rotation and balance and free installation $1050 for 4 set of Tesla model 3. Tesla will charge $1450 and 1 month of fsd.

Anywhere except Tesla, rotation and repairs are for free.

Plus Discount/Americas tire road hazard warranty is much cheaper

Discount tire can be negotiated below retail easily. Never pay sticker for tires

Yeah I usually shop around then show them the price. Never had an issue.

I’ve never paid for it. I’ve actually received them free twice.

Yep, should have clarified - new with new tire purchase, can be added for much less than Tesla tire coverage on existing tires too.

\> What are the 3 best tyre options to choose for a 2019 model 3 in 2025 then? I will need to buy new set of 4 in spring as my summer tyres need replacement.? Spring? Are you new here? Tire recommendations change in this sub by the week like a pendulum.

Nice

I’ve only gotten my MXP tires replaced by discount tire, and they do the free rotation, but they told me I needed an alignment adjustment because they were wearing quick on the inside and that wasn’t something they could do for my car and to take it to Tesla… was kinda annoying.

Dang, they'll be giving a trial away with every Happy Meal next.

Plus they also price match at Discount Tire. I was able to get them to remove the install fee and price match Costco

This would be totally worth it for HW 2.5 Cars if it included the $1000 HW 3.0 Upgrade.

Costco tire shop is the best and you get tire repair, rotation and installation with that price you see on their website. The only bad thing is that you will be waiting for hours 😂

I just had my tires rotated, the Tesla tech came over to my house and I was charged $60. In addition, he checked and cleaned the cameras, checked the filter and filled the windshield wiper fluid. Not bad.

When should I get the shocks replaced?

This isn't in regard to the tire rack test or even those tires in general, but you don't necessarily need more mass for noise reduction. Mass is needed for noise blocking but that's only one aspect of the general noise reduction strategy. Another aspect is noise absorption, which is what the foam in tires is intended for, and that does not require much mass at all. Some of the best products for noise absorption are things like Thinsulate 600L which weighs basically nothing yet is still highly effective at absorbing sound energy within a certain frequency band. I haven't watched the tire rack video yet but I'm going to guess they did measurements with one of those handheld SPL meters which means their results are dubious at best. EDIT: Watched the video, yeah they did the typical youtuber thing of using a single value SPL meter. Test is essentially worthless, the subjective evaluation is actually the better test in this video.

Not a good idea to only buy 2 tires for an AWD vehicle. Can cause a lot of problems.

Conventional AWD's and Teslas are different, but yeah always having 4 tires of very similar tread is the way to go. I just don't feel like tossing out my front set of tires at half tread once the back ones are gonezo. That's like ~$500 or rubber getting thrown out every time. Manual says pairs are fine, of course full set is recommended: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_gb/GUID-94F63B13-EA2C-45D9-83AB-5DCA6295D587.html

Teslas must be different. In the past not changing all 4 tires would damage differentials and transmissions.

What's the science behind that?