14.1.3 download size

What is this a screenshot of?

The download size. It’s in the title.

I think they are asking about where did they get this screenshot from? Like app or website. I want to know as well.

^bingo. Where is this information available

Looks like they looked at their routers device usage bro lol

Ah, thiiiis is why the LTE connection isn't used for updates.

I use a Firewalla as my router. I can see bandwidth usage and downloads by device.

I use a Firewalla as my router. I can see bandwidth usage and downloads for each device.

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It would be nice if we could do USB installs

At least you got it.

I think that would open it up to potential sideload of custom firmware

Firewalla 🔥club!

Holy hell, these model sizes are getting gargantuan

I'm very interested in the *park in my driveway* feature. Anyone with V14 try it out?

Surprised it’s that big.  V14.1 was around 12GB when I downloaded it - I wonder why 14.1.3 is so much larger.

Firewalla's strong together

Wonder if there’s backend improvements in the download for future versions that they’ve already worked on. Would theoretically put some aspects of the model in place to facilitate the future updates being less demanding? No idea but that’s just my spitball suggestion

Can anyone confirm the status of autosteer in these updates? There was rumor that one of these V14 updates would have autosteer for those who don't use FSD operating from the FSD computer instead of basic autopilot.

BuT i PaY FoR iT

Gee, wonder why

THIS! I bothers me so much when a car needs internet for an update and doesn't have an offline option. What if the servers have issues or an update fixes an internet issue. Shouldn't have to be brought to a service center, if there is ever one near you. Not to mention they would charge you for that I'm sure if you're out of warranty.  USB drive just makes sense as a fallback.

Maybe, but unlikely. With all the signing it already does, it would still be hard. Main difference is where it picks the file from, internal storage or external. Still has the same security.

If this is being monitored by a router, then it might have downloaded the update twice due to error etc. All we know is it's no bigger than this, it could be 1/3 of the size for all we know.

Sadly, internet costs have come down that companies don't optimise like that anymore. Remember the ps3 and Xbox 360 era? Internet was limited and expensive to they had to optimise downloads. Gens after that an update will usually be an entirely new copy of the game.

Both would be FSD computer before and after, I think what you mean is the model for auto stear would have been updated.  Long over due. Apparently phantom braking is not in FSD cars, so that model, just limited in function is the only true fix. We shouldn't have to buy fsd to fix such a dangerous issue.

Took me 3 hours to download over 2G on my 2025 model Y. Then another 55 minutes to install. Worth it though.

These are still small compared to current text and/or image generation AI which can easily surpass 100gb or even 600gb (deep seek r1 fully self hosted). Essentially Tesla could build 10x-20x larger models, they just need the compute inside the car to handle these Models. We will see what HW5 and HW6 will be capable of.

Yeah, it’s smooth. Found it better at bumps that were problem in the past and also merging lanes on the freeway

Has anyone intercepted these? Like gotten the raw files? I want that. I think it would be very cool

Ah yes thats what I mean. I assumed they were different branches of the computers but what you say makes sense. I really hope they have allowed for the "premium" FSD software to run autosteer, its basically dangerous and often unusable in its current form. Have not heard anyone really speak about it since 14 came out so very curious.

That’s an absolutely not the case, at least not often. I have many 80gb-100gb games on my pc yet so far the patches and updates that get pushed for them range from a few hundred megs to GBs in size. RARELY ever is it the full size of a complete redownload unless fundamental core items of the game or software are being adjusted. That is essentially what’s going on here with FSD. The branches of a version are patches or updates to the main core logic system but not enough to warrant a full system re-do and therefore they’re version numbers. For first download of the new version (e.g when going from V13.2.9 to V14.1.3) you’ll get a large download. Then the follow up version branches will be smaller in size (by comparison) as they build/adjust it/re-write components of it but not the whole thing.

Will my 2020 M3P get this? Or is this for full self driving which I didn’t buy nor will never be available in the EU?

Cheers mate

That would be completely unnecessary

I have, I was shocked when it pulled nose first into my driveway. I always back in and assumed v14 would do the same since that is always how it parks itself.

Meanwhile us legacy drivers suck with v12 in a 100kb gif file

Xi, is that you?

COOL! Does FSD take it all the way into your driveway and park? Did you mark the final spot somehow? No need for parking lines anymore?

I still hear of phantom braking on Autopilot only, but almost never FSD.  Tbh, if I had a car 4 years and still phantom break, I'd demand they fix it. If they say buy fsd, I'd sue for fsd as that's the only true fix they offer. Or, they could just update the Autopilot model like they should have at least a year ago.

Given that future models are capable of prompting and reasoning, I dont think it's that unreasonable.

For FSD? Not necessary as I said.

For FSD, yes.

You want to run a local model to do reasoning for your self driving vehicle? I want my self driving vehicle to be doing self driving locally, personally. Maybe if the models become more efficient. But no reason to do this. It gains you nothing.

The current fsd models Tesla are working with have reasoning capability.

It is not running locally.

The FSD model that runs locally will be capable of reasoning in a future version. The one that runs today can be text prompted and can discuss its intentions in text form.

Right. Or it’s other software including the model. The model needs to run on the hardware in the car. It cannot be larger than the memory in the compute as a rule.

Why is this update so bad. Not being able to choose my speed is a huge downgrade. It’s either get a ticket in standard and hurry mode or go slower than the traffic in chill mode.

Reminds me of a purported Bill Gates quote. :)

Tesla don’t give a shit - the LTE subscription stopped covering Data Downloads years ago. Shite company!!

Take a look at how much 600gb of HBM costs and let me know if it makes sense to put into your car.

Dude… I started out with less than a megabyte of ram. You’re embarrassing yourself.

how long ago was that?

30 years. The point is, forward looking statements about technology are inadvisable. Someday, 600GB of ram might be cheap and the norm.

So you have 600gb of ram now in your pc?

No but over 30 years the amount of ram in my computer has increased 10.5 million percent. You sure you wanna make bold statements about the future?

That is huge amount of data!

Correct, the parking lines are no longer required. I was unable to mark the final stopping point but apparently that sort of feature will be added eventually. It will park in your driveway, but you can also select curb parking as well. Tesla has added a FSD specific menu for that option when FSD is engaged.

My parking lines (Rev 15) never worked no matter the configuration, so I'm looking forward to seeing what V14 can do!

Considering the size of most ai models this is kind of incredible

Or, data, even in a corporate environment, still costs a shit tone and the price you pay doesn't cover it.

Firewalla?

Yup

Why do you assume that in order to drive locally the model does not need reason?

It probably just downloaded 14.1.1 through 14.1.4 and installed them linearly.

given how far FSD is from handling edge cases safely, it doesn’t sound unnecessary at all

lmao

Very possibly. A lot of systems involved that might not always like skipping one.

May never happen tbh

Yeah, but they way overprice the cars on the basis that you are paying for such features upfront……bunch of wankers.

What cars have these features cheaper or free?

Almost all electric cars these days - the ‘lane keeping assist’ on the Kia Ionic 5N is far better than FSD - the driving experience is outstanding compared to my M3P and the build quality and warranty are on another level. I’m waiting on my Ionic 5N arriving and there will not be a tear shed when the M3P moves on.

Kia is trying to make an autonomous car? CALL THE NEWS!!!!!! Or do you mean better than Autopilot. Which is included with all Tesla's until recently

I'm sure he doesn't know the difference. Don't waste your keystrokes.

But we must tell some sketchy news site that has all the om the ground fresh info.

You cant set a speed limit anymore. Look around, atleast on my pictures all it does is speed speed and speed some more.

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Anyone still on 2025.32.8.16?? Feels like I’ve been on this bullshit for years.