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They link to [their article](https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/best-cars-trucks-suvs-of-2025-so-far.html) which says: > Tesla Model Y > We're capping things off with the vehicle that would win an imaginary "Most Improved Car" award from us: the Tesla Model Y. Like the X3, we added the Model Y to our One-Year Road Test fleet earlier this year, and we quickly realized that it solved many of the issues the last-generation Model Y suffered from. The ride quality has gone from insufferable to perhaps the best among its competitors. And those interior build-quality issues? They're entirely gone. The cabin took a much-needed leap forward in both fit and finish and materials alike. > Its other positives still remain. There's an incredible amount of cargo room between the large trunk and frunk, acceleration is plenty quick enough for the everyday haul, and you'll net well over 300 miles of range (as long as you don't drive like an absolute loon all of the time). We get that its minimalistic interior won't be for everyone, but hey, at least you get a turn signal stalk (unlike the Cybertruck and Model 3).
Wow an article not just making up fake shit to shit on Tesla I’m surprised
Good on Edmunds for having a spine and reporting the truth.
Don't tell this to r/electricvehicles
Motortrend just did a NASTY review of their long term 2023 Model Y Dual Motor lol. Crazy how much better the 2025 version is
Literally, they go ape shit if someone tries to tell them their Kia EV isn’t the best car on the road.
I snorted
It's even worse than that. To that community it's already going too far to say that Teslas might actually be good cars. To them they have to be bad cars, even the worst cars.
lol
You think ElectricCars is bad, CarsAustralia is allergic to electric but Tesla is the Voldermort of them!
It’s better than pretty much all of the Germans that’s for sure.
And yet I won’t buy one as long as he is there.
EDS much?
Yea it’s so bad! They can’t even consider how their cars are simply reverse engineered teslas so we all share the same shit
Very few people care.
The funniest is when someone mentions that it lacks some basic features their previous Tesla had.
Motortrend also did a comparison of 7 EV SUVs and the new version and it only placed 4th. Crazy how different the opinion of different publications can be. [https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/compact-ev-suv-comparison-test-model-y-vs-6-others](https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/compact-ev-suv-comparison-test-model-y-vs-6-others)
Edmunds is crazy to call it the best overall car of 2025. Its got a lot for the money but its missing air suspension, HUD, massaging seats, has a barebones interior, no screen in front of driver, large turning radius, still on 400V system, actual highway range is good but not great on its smaller ~80 kWh battery.
Our neighbor just bought a Porsche Taycan while we just bought a Juniper. I’m very happy with the choice. His car looks cool, but the charging situation, falling into it (knees/back), the squeaky seats, scary absence of safety features, jumbled interior, lack of self driving and tech — all of it made me so happy we spent 1/3 to get something honestly so much more enjoyable.
German cars are too over engineered, as a result they’re expensive to maintain and repair. In the EV world, Tesla pretty much hasn’t been beat. There’s the Chinese, price wise, but idk anything about their reliability.
It’s already posted there?
It’s not overengineered. They’re just bad in age of EVs. Some of The Chinese are better than Tesla now except at FSD, and I just picked up a new Y. New gen Germans looks promising but those are not better cars than current Teslas. Just bigger battery and slightly less space efficiency, much worse software and much more expensive for no reason.
They did! they apparently were judging the cars "Personality" ....
I wouldn’t say these two opinions are at odds with each other. A car can substantially improve from its previous iteration and still be considered 4th in the current market against its competitors.
Not based on personality, that is a stupid metric.
Not even comparable cars lol
I invite someone to cross post this to r/teslastockholders. We have new mods that are trying to clean the vitriol out.
Yep. I hate these comparison just because both are electric. That’s like saying a Ferrari has a harsh suspension and less cargo space compared to an Escalade
>we added the Model Y to our One-Year Road Test fleet earlier this year, and we quickly realized that it solved many of the issues the last-generation Model Y suffered from. Wait second generation model Y? They already launched a second gen? There isn't even a second gen Model S or X and those are much older.
Which one has the most banana boxes? It seems like the model Y?
So what would you compare it to for all those features that is the same price
No problems if they said vibe though
Too bad it looks just terrible. Old body style was dope, new one looks awkward as F.
That's why I love living in the real world where people love Tesla's or impartial!
ok
The car is $50k or less. What other similarly priced vehicle has those features?
same shit as being anti chic fil a
Do you fr think someone would buy a *sports* car and want it to drive itself?? Most of your list of gripes comes down to the Y being a family-oriented vehicle, and the Taycan being a sports car designed by a luxury brand.
Was just thinking the same thing. “Falling into his Ferrari hurts my back and knees, but just going right into my jeep is a dream”
Don’t tell them about their failing 12v. Iccu? Or some shit like that. They’ll tell you it’s not real and only affects 1% of cars haha
Exactly. The people looking at the Taycan aren’t looking at the Model Y. You can compare the Model S and Taycan.
Not if they call one “the best car they’ve driven in 2025” and say it’s better than its competitors in ride quality and has no build quality issues which have been two of the primary complaints against it in the past. There’s no way to reasonably have a 4th place finish in its class if it’s the best car they’ve driven this year and it fixed most or all of the major issues it had.
My main point is that I expected it to be so much nicer than it turned out to be. Six figure car that I definitely admired prior to getting in it. My very sweet neighbor can do whatever he wants, but after the fun of gassing it on the freeway, I can’t see what it has to offer. The interior and features were honestly unimpressive compared to our Y. Zero jealously, when I expected to have a little bit.
I am mixed on the new Y. It looks nice from some angles and a bit awkward from others. I feel like the taillight horizontal line should be wider. Overall it is an improvement IMO over the old Y. But then I also really don't like the look of the old Y at all. It looks frumpy and I've felt that way since day one. As a 3 owner going on 7 years now, I feel like they took the 3, which is a nice design, and stretched it taller without really thinking about if that would look good or not.
I find it hilarious that they ranked the Mustang Mach E ride quality as better than the Model Y. Not saying that the pre-Juniper Model Y was great but in my experience, the Mustang Mach E was much worse in terms of ride quality.
GV60 starts at 52k but lacks air suspension , lightly used CPO Mercedes EQS and Audi E trons has air suspension and some Audis like q6 and GT are 800V. Also OG etrons are a steal in the low 20s
A lot of people care https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/28/cars/tesla-elon-musk-byd-europe-sales
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You misread the opinion. Edmunds said it's the best car of 2025. They didn't just say it was substantially improved. https://x.com/edmunds/status/1962915371620712573
Seems like a lot of people do beyond the circle jerkers here
“No screen in front of the driver” is my favorite feature of the 3 + Y. The stuff in front of the driver makes other cars feel cramped
Nissan Versa is not an EV so I'm not entirely sure where you're going with your comment.
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What did they say?
Which trims though? Tire size and adaptive dampers make a big difference.
The base Mach E also got new suspension this year. They evidently liked it.
\*yawn\* There is a whole subreddit dedicated to politics. I think that is where you should post your political commentary.
Just so you know, at least in my eyes, you just lost the debate.
Thank you. I was wondering if I had wandered into an alternate universe. After driving our original 3 for a year back in the day, when I got back into an Audi (which was my favorite brand before our Tesla) it was like having a circus thrown at me while I was just trying to drive.
I think the honest answer is somewhere in the middle. Not great, but not bad either. Which kind of stacks up with the price. I recall Edmunds coming out with some ridiculous conclusions when reviewing cars, including the model 3 way back when. They have bias, sometimes it feels like it’s just a paid review. It’s just not representative. Motortrend can seem really bias too.
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Can we retrofit any of this
Cuz you're so perfect and squeaky clean, right? Shaddap.
Well I’m not a white supremacist trying to usurp other countries democracies, so there’s that.
I considered an S before ordering the Y. These cross-shops do happen.
For me it's all-round the best. Price-value wise. I think it's the best kit around there. Pretty much everything is standard on this car. Imagine having Sentry mode, heated and ventilated seats, quality of the sound system, glass roof, automatic folded seats, in-car entertainment and infotainment, etc. all included by standard. Compare to the competition. Nothing comes close. I understand for some traditional car manufacturers like BMW or Mercedes, the finishing quality on the interior seems better, but there's a lot of the above that requires you to take an expensive option to have the feature included. My Juniper Y LR AWD will arrive next year in March. I am still waiting on my leasing contract to end on my current M3 LR AWD by then.
There’s quite a few EVs that beat out the model Y for the price . ID 4 Pro, Nissan Ariya, Chevy equinox, etc.
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GV60 new starts at 52k, CPO EQS and Audi E trons are in the 30s
For sure, I would’ve preferred smaller rims but I had the Premium Mach E with 19” rims and 225/55 tires.
> scary absence of safety features What safety features does it lack?
Tesla doesn’t pay for advertising in Mototrend!
The one where it runs over a dummy child like a tesla. Whatever that is
I really want to like the Kia and Hyundai offerings but the track record of their recent vehicles has been so poor and we have experience to lean on from a host of people from neighbors, coworkers, to family. From the near infamous key issue due to lack of immobilizers to GDI motors needing replacement to my least favorite of paint just coming off the hoods and roofs that they only extended warranty coverage this year on - they had been fighting it for some time. Plus there are their dealers which in my area make Dodge dealers seem like upstanding citizens.
I own a 3 and a Y. I love both! I’ll never purchase another Tesla again.
None of that is even remotely true.
I take it you have no eyes or ears. Get some help.
You have EDS.
“Hard to believe”
OK Champ.
Current Kia EV9 owner and former long term (7 years) Model 3 owner. The Kia is a great car but I still prefer my old Tesla, mainly the UI. My brother has a 2024 or 2025 Model 3 and it was significantly better than my old one, particularly in drive quality and suspension. I'm not surprised the Y is greatly improved. He had a 2022 Y and he hated it, super noisy and suspension was too firm. If I need a second car I'll go for a used Model 3 but I'm happy with the Kia.
This.
I literally stay in that subreddit just for these nuggets. People always act so shocked.
A friend of mine bought a used Kia EV 6 and after the dealer loaded him up with bullshit he walked away with a $50,000 car note. Are you kidding me? You can buy a model Y with 20,000 miles on it for $25,000 and it’s 16 times the car…smh. Also, I know any experience at a dealer with a legacy auto makers is literally the worst. I will never go to a dealership again.
EDS.
The Juniper is the 2026 model, not 2025. And it doesn’t mean that it’s better. This is just too editorials from two different brands. One writer can love it and the other can hate it.
Where’s the lie?
They typically argue that you *don't* need the feature or say that something else works better. It's all really funny, they can't just admit that their traditional auto mfg's car isn't as high tech.
Correct! not only is it not as high tech but the overall boring basic OS is terrible/app doesn’t work. Battery/thermal management shit, also McPherson struts suck ass vs the double wishbone on teslas….
I'd love to consider a different EV for my next purchase. I'm just bored with the styling and plain interior. Then I remember FSD doesn't exist outside of Tesla. I'm trapped. (I use FSD 98% of the time)
Lots of basic functionality missing too. I don't want to misquote since I'm not familiar, but I was shocked to see what it lacks vs the Y.
Maybe the suspension parts, but if you're going to do that there are a bunch of custom suspension manufacturers to choose from, and I'd go with something that's super adjustable.
Definitely. It’s kind of like why even bother with anything else when a Tesla is this well refined. My friend who has a Kia EV did though say that he likes that it feels more like a car than an EV. So in the interest of people moving away from ICE I am fine with that reasoning. Better than trying to claim it’s a better vehicle, more it’s aligned with a need to have minimal change from ICE to EV.
Big doubt. 😉
Especially if they don't pay for any advertising.
Just so you know, the dude explained his POV while you just took it personal with no explanation whatsoever.. you didn't even debate to tag you as a debate looser..
Tell them Edmunds.com agrees with you despite being a biased site: https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/best-cars-trucks-suvs-of-2025-so-far.html
And go see their discussion about how frunks are useless when someone complain that their Toyota Bzwha6tev24er or Hyndai Niro don't have one. (so much wasted space in those engine bay!)
No it’s making fake shit up to promote Tesla. I’ve seen this headline everywhere. Edmunds doesn’t even mention Model Y on their 2025 Top Rated site. https://www.edmunds.com/top-rated/
Yea but it says “best car DRIVEN in 2025”…NOT the best 2025 model. Probably other models driven were 2026 editions.
People are taking this way out of context.. on both sides. Watch the actual Edmunds video!! They make it clear the Juniper Model Y is the “best car they’ve driven so far THIS year” because it absolutely nails most of the wants & needs of the typical driver.. and it does it an unbeatable price point with an incredibly quiet, comfortable in spacious interior. They aren’t saying it’s the best car ever. And they aren’t saying is the best at absolutely everything. On the flip side they also basically confirm Motor Trends biggest complaint.. as Edmunds said the original Model Y was the worst riding car they have tested. It was incredibly stiff & jarring. I think both things are true.. and I saw this as 2021 Model Y owner who’s put 93K miles on the vehicle. I can say with firsthand experience that model Y fits all of my wants & needs.. but that the Juniper is probably significantly better in every possible way.
the only part i dont like is the trunk panel, moving the license plate down gives it that huge flat area that looks unfinished/empty.
Motortrend also categorically HATES cars that do things differently than they're accustomed to. I have my issues with the monoscreen no-buttons interior approach but for Motor Trend that's enough to ensure that no Tesla will ever come out on top of a comparison.
And yet here it is in their "best cars, trucks, and SUVs of 2025" article which must be made up fake shit too: https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/best-cars-trucks-suvs-of-2025-so-far.html
So, nothing comparable. Used cars are not comparable, and the GV60 isn’t great.
Ya they aren’t comparable even though they are a similar price, and car and driver gave the GV60 a 9/10 in the luxury EV suv segment. Tesla isn’t even in that segment as they don’t consider it luxury. None of what I mentioned above and also no soft close doors. The main problem is the X Post’s title, which isn’t even mentioned on its main website of Edmund’s . They’re trying to kiss ass.
Many people are saying
"Edmunds: The new Tesla Model Y is the best car we've driven in 2025" I don't see Nissan Versa in that quote but sure you can spell it out for me douche.
Starts at $52k not with those features. According to Out Of Spec, the new Model Y AWD got 296 miles at 70mph and the GV60 Perf got 236 (it was 230 something.)
Weird because Edmund’s tested the gv60 PERFORMANCE at 274 miles at 70 mph. Mind you, performance versions get lesser miles. They tested the 2020 model Y performance at 263 miles. Teslas are the worst offenders when it comes to not meeting their EPA range. If we’re not examining luxury cars with the options in my original comment, several new EVs offer everything the model Y has and in the same price range or less (such as equinox EV). It’s just my opinion that it’s better to get a CPO luxury EV for much cheaper than a new model Y
I agree with you. The Perf was the only version I had for OOS. This Edmunds article was referring to the new 2025/2026 Juniper version though since it did get a refresh. I agree they are the worst offenders. I think Tesla fixed their EPA stuff for the most part though. I think the new Model 3 RWD LR beats the EPA estimate on OOS. I don't disagree there are probably better options. I live in a small town in the southeast so it can be hard to even try other EVs since people are so anti-ev around here. I will be transparent and say I own a tesla and I like the tech so that sways me a little but I've always been interested in the other brands and what they can bring to the table. Competition is great in this case!
Just sad that all those people working at Tesla absolutely push themselves to the max to put out a product of that caliber and then somehow the general public has this ridiculous firewall against appreciating the brand and including it in car culture. The workers of Tesla don’t deserve that.
Loved my Y. Honestly a perfect car minus the lower quality interior. But never again. Moved to an etron.
I’m looking toward the Rivian R2. I even put a deposit on one just to get in line in case we wind up getting one. It’s not a sure thing but from what they’ve shown so far it seems really likely that’s my next vehicle.
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I expect I will buy another. It is just too painful to drive anything else. Still, am probably going to delay my next purchase and wait for things to calm down a bit.
Are you familiar with reading comprehension or did you ignore that part in school? I didn't say that person was wrong. I asked them a follow up question. You then decided to randomly add in something about the Nissan Versa because you were feeling a little snarky. Roses are red violets are blue this poem sucks everyone that says anything "good" about Tesla MUST be a bot. So, why do you think the Nissan Versa is the best car of 2025?
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I usually like learning about others' opinions or stances on topics, but you seem incapable of producing a "reply" that is anything other than sarcasm. I can only assume you own a Nissan Versa, which would make sense that you think it's the best car of 2025 since it would be the only vehicle you've driven this year.
You think the Taycan is a sports car? Or am I missing something?
*Many* people are saying that ratuabi is an unreliable information source. Tainted user for *many* people. See how dumb that sounds?
Yeah. DO NOT buy the best car, because you think it looks awkward. Buy something worse that you think isn't awkward. Sound logic.
But he did publicly support the far right party in Germany that wants to strip certain races of their rights.
Illegals and terrys.
clearly havent driven much..
They rated the Tesla as the most expensive by including the $8K FSD option. (major eye roll)
Lets see how they hold up for long term reliability. Plus, we can't buy a Chinese ev here in the States so it's a non issue
The Juniper is listed as a 2026 Model. Thats why it's not on the list
Im guessing you voted for Kamala? You ever owned VW?
Another Kamala voter I assume?
But you can get a Tesla, which is the same thing.
Good call
I bought a 2026 Model y 2 weeks ago and absolutely LOVE IT!
Congrats. New Y is far better than anything else. Same space as a BMW X5. Crazy good. Picked up mine 3 weeks ago as well.
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