Tesla Model Y Performance launched in Norway

Are they the same trash "sports" seats as the model 3 performance? Hard pass for me if they are.

I have heard many good journalist praise the seats. Why do you hate them?

Probably not used to aggressive bolsters needed to keep you in place in a high performance car if I had to guess. They aren't crazy comfortable, but they aren't terrible and they work for their intended purpose during aggressive driving.

I’m amazed they measure the wheels in inches. How common is it in Europe to see things measured in imperial?

For wheels is normal

Some things are measured in inches, for example screen size. However since we don't use them as an actual measurement they're only a comparison tool (e.g. a 65" TV is bigger than a 55" TV). But if you want to know if it will fit inside your living room, you get the size in cm from the specs.

Would a typical tape measure have inches on it as well so that you could just measure the TV w/o converting?

Having a current MYP... why would I switch? Slightly different interior and front ? Specs seem the same and it will arrive in the USA just in time not to qualify for the $7500 gov discount. What happen to Tesla innovation?

Yes, all(?) tape measures have both inches and cm Edit: This is the norm in Norway, but will vary between countries. YMMV

That converted to USD is over $55k! Almost $10k more than a 3P. That’s a little much

Uhh, just the suspension and NVH improvements are worth the upgrade. The old Y was really rough all around, the current one with the adaptive dampers should ride a lot better.

Wow. The wheels just flatten the looks of the LR

Over the past six years, the US dollar has depreciated significantly against the Norwegian krone. The exchange rate has moved from approximately 8.40 NOK per USD in 2019 to around 10.07 NOK per USD today. This represents a depreciation of about 16.6% for the dollar against the krone during that period.

being almost the same range as LR, its kinda more seductive option just for the new "toys" of the track mode :P

Looks like there's a launch mode available when you select insane mode. Was that present in the old performance?

It's still not worth swapping a fully paid off car for imo. *If* you want a better ride, just swapping the suspension would be cheaper. Buying a whole new car just for that is really, financially, stupid. Plus, the refresh look isn't for everyone.

Wouldn't trade my launch edition for it, but 3.5 0-60 and 360 miles of range is pretty cool

>Some things are measured in inches Hmmmm... I think you might have forgotten an important example...

No they don’t.

No penis is not measured in inches. Only screen sizes, wheels, Jeans and hoses/pipes. Maybe some other niche things.

No, the new Model Y has completely different seats.

WLTP testing gives higher numbers. EPA rating will be lower than current Model Y LR rating of 327 mi.

If it went from 8.4 to 10.07, you would call that appreciation not depreciation of USD against NOK?

Still just a MAGA Mobile and that's not gonna change

Is the suspension also better in terms of comfort?

Do you know if the suspension upgrade on the new model 3 compared to the old one is the same improvement? Or did they upgrade the new model y suspension even more?

that white one looks heavenly

If I'm not mistaken the new Model 3 and new Model Y has the same suspension upgrade. I have the new Model 3, the new one rides a lot better compared to the old one. It is especially noticeable when going through bumps. The NVH improves a lot over the old car too.

This looks nice. I don’t know why I thought I saw 2.6s 0-60MPH advertised a while ago when I got my Juniper. 3.5s is not bad either for this.

Yes, it is geared more towards comfort. The old one just ride too stiff for an SUV.

The car also got retartmode

That's the boat I'm in, would love to get the the new Juniper with all the upgrades (mostly the new suspension), but still paying off my 2022 Y LR, so it wouldn't make financial sense. Looks like I'm going to run this thing into the ground until it dies lol. But like you said, if its mostly the suspension Im wanting, I can just switch that out even with the junipers suspension as I've seen some people already do it successfully. Would he way more economical than buying a whole new car (although the other upgrades would be nice as well)

Damn those rims look sick

That’s not true at all.

Human height is often measured in feet+inches, and in Canada, carpentry shit is all done in imperial.

Im really not impressed with the new look and highly disappointed that they didn't add more battery capacity (even 5 kwh would have been nice). So, as someone with an 80k mile 21 that's been paid off for over a year, it doesn't make sense for me to upgrade to a product that won't do much more for me other than just be new. The suspension doesn't bother me, and I'd rather it be a little more lowered and tighter tbh. Getting proper tires helped me improve the sound dampening, and everything else is just "new phone" to me.

Wasn't the topic Europe? At least outside of the UK nobody will use feet and inches for both.

I think the regular model Y looks better. I think the model 3 performance looks the best and that is how the bumper should have looked on the regular model 3

Comes with an 16 inch display instead of 15,4

How about a decent pickup truck like the Slate? The cyber truck has not been the glowing success everyone hoped it would be. A pickup truck the size of the slate, with Tesla running gear “all wheel drive” would be awesome and with more conventional looks would sell much much better.

No non juniper MY does not have a launch mode

3.5 is the same as the current performance. Was expecting at least a slight increase.

I’m with you.

Been screaming this for years now. I know a few diehard ‘truck guys’ that would buy a Tesla immediately if they finally tapped that market.

How about forget the trucks? Work vans ala Toyota Proace are universally more common and useful for work. Pick-ups are niche.

Wheels are measured in inches, millimetres and a ratio in both Europe and the US - it doesn't make sense to anyone. 245/45 R18 = millimeters/ratio inches

This is nice and all but if they want to gain market share they're going to have to shake things up a lot more than this.

Such as?

That's incorrect.

Nope. Current is 3.7 seconds, so the new one is slightly faster.

A quick Google search or search of the pre-owned Model Y inventory will quickly show you the current Model Y performance is 3.5 0-60.

does that mean it only reaches the claimed 0-100 time in Launch mode? I hate that

just an FYI for you both, this is 0-100kph not 0-60mph. Google says 3.5s 0-100kph converted to 0-60mph is \~ 3.26s

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I hate the long hood. I prefer the shorter, stubby look.

The EU versions of the Model 3 performance have a different battery and less horsepower.

It's still an increase, Model Y performance range is higher than the Model 3 performance, which is a first.

It’s not the same car

It’s also in DK now

Yeah, they’re just the best selling vehicles in North America.

Using pickup and niche in the same sentence is crazy

No shit they asked if it was there before

Pickups are niche yet are the top selling car in America every year? lol

Yeah, larger battery most likely. Pretty good news. Maybe the 3 will get it too in the next year or 2

USD is down around 10% vs the EUR last year

It’s an easier number to count. Same with tv sizes.

Yep, they now need a cheap hatchback and a small pickup truck similar to the Ford Maverick or Ranger but EV.

They put the best looking bumper on the top model.

Really hope there is a truck that’s not cybertruck when my lease ends on the Silverado ev. Not likely though. Wish I could like the cybertruck

lol really?

Man I would only make the switch just for a faster ride. But I like my lil juniper. Gotta be grateful sometimes.

That sounds more like it! Good catch!

It's 0-100.

EV trucks? No not really. And even then, the US is a small part of the world. Tesla is global.

It's true though. Might be mind-blowing for Americans.

Correct. America isn't the world, and even there EV trucks aren't selling well.

3.3 0-60 mph, the 3.5 figure is 0-100 km/h

This has a larger battery than the Model Y LR and should have more range than the Model Y LR AWD with the 20" wheels and a bit less than with the 19" wheels.

Lol "Americans" Dont think its tough to follow that this conversation is about the cybertruck & pick ups trucks within US as its only being sold in North America.

The article is about Norway. The Cybertruck is a niche vehicle. If Tesla made an efficient work van with good range, it would sell extremely well. Current options aren't very good.  The most used ones here are low-range Peugeot and Toyota vans, as well as the ID-Buzz - none of them are especially good.

Toyota Proace* sales in 2024: 32,110 F-Series sales in Canada, 2024: 133,857 You brought up vehicle classes, then switched to EV vs ICE. I won’t even bring up US numbers, I get it’s considered an insignificant market on Reddit.

Globally vans are much much more common.

Global Market Value, 2024 [Pickups: $225B](https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/pickup-trucks-market-report) [Cargo Vans: $53B](https://growthmarketreports.com/report/cargo-van-market) So uh, no.

lol. Logitech likes to argue for fun

If you are referring to the LG M53 cells this likely has, it’s highly unlikely we will see this battery in the US. The cells are made in China which will be subject to big import tariffs. Tesla might wait to introduce the US market Model Y Performance until Giga Nevada starts making the next gen Panasonic 2170 cells, which are supposed to yield a +5% capacity.

looks like nice sketchers

Yea, I’m curious to see what they will do for the US market and if the new cells will be used on the 3 performance or any other variants anytime soon.

Yes the non U.S. Model 3 Performance uses a LG 79 kWh battery pack. The U.S. version uses a Panasonic battery.

I know I know extremely unpopular opinion, but if you have level two charging in your house range doesn't REALLY matter, even more past the 320 mark it's plenty enough And if you are taking a road trip an extra 10 or so minutes at a supercharger it's not that big of a deal imo

Design is quite different. Link for the lazy: https://www.tesla.com/no_no/modely/design?redirect=no&amp%3Bcfg=%24MTY53#overview

580 km vs 586 km

It’s basically the same range as the awd, 6 km difference. That’s nice.

Some countries have very limited numbers of EV chargers (if any) on certain roads, that’s where range comes into play.

I agree, around 300 miles of highway driving I think is the sweet spot. What needs to improve though is the charge curve. If nothing else changed except Teslas could hold 250 KW to 80%, it would be a major improvement for road trips.

Gotta love eu trying to save us I guess We need more paper straws and broken bottle caps

Most likely. With my P100DL+ it will only hit 0-100kmh 2.5sec if I use Ludicrous+ with launch control. "Regular" ludicrous mode is about a half second slower.

That sucks. I dont know about you guys but I dont see any use in Launch Mode. Its something I would use a couple times and for showing it to friends perhaps, but I dont see any use in it.

Can’t get over the corny lightbar headlights

It's not really the norm in Norway either. I have three tape measures at home (just bought randomly without thinking of the measurement units) and they all have cm on both sides.

Fugly

Do you think Tesla will add that 16 inch screen in my non performance juniper if I pay?

They might, or they will just start replacing all versions with it after a while

The spoiler and the rear diffuser look oddly proportioned on the new Y. In terms of the new cars the 3P looks the best by far, then followed by the regular Y.

That would be an absolute game changer, even if it could maintain 150kwh up to 80% that would be a pretty big improvement.

I would trade just for the seats. The new suspension would be nice as well.

Just for the seats? Juniper seats are comfortable af lol, and I bought a little third-party pillow for the cherry on top 😂 that's crazy

Please tell me it has a black / dark headliner?

Juniper seats are just OK, far from premium.

Nope, its light

You're right it's not made with sheep skin, and alligator hide.. or diamond infused stitching define what is considered premium to you ?

It's the shortest bench in the industry for one. It needs to be longer. It should be a bit softer but still firm. You should be able to sit down and sit for 4 hours without moving an inch and feel good. In juniper you are constantly slightly adjusting your position.

That’s a shame. Great way to differentiate a more performance focused trim.

The wheels look like the old arachnid wheels from the S and X

Please cry more

Yup, im not a fan of the "launch mode" and "cheetah stance" gimmicks that the Plaid and non-Tesla EVs use

This should sell well. Really curious how the U.S. will be impacted once the $7,500 tax credit lapses.

When you say a "current" MYP you mean the last model? Juniper performance model would be pretty dramatic. If the suspension is as good as the M3P it would be night and day. On top of presumably lighter wheels, way better seats+cooling. Basically everything about it is better lol.

3P is 55.

It's there, I've used it maybe twice. "Sport" is more than quick enough in the daily, and regular ludicrous is still way too much. So the ludicrous+ with the battery preheat and launch control is just nuts and honestly not something I use.

Incorrect. The new Juniper model Y Performance has an EPA range of 357 (360) miles. It comes with a higher density battery pack.

Where do you see this? That would be physically impossible. Plus this new battery pack won’t likely make it to the US due to tariffs. Highland Model 3 Performance is rated for 298mi EPA with an 82 kWh battery. That’s 3.634 mi/kWh. And you’re saying Juniper Model Y Performance is rated for 360mi EPA? Even with the larger 84 kWh battery, that would mean 4.286 mi/kWh. There is no possible way a larger, heavier, less aerodynamic vehicle will be more efficient than the Model 3 Performance. Even if it had the exact same efficiency as the M3P, it would require a 99kWh battery to reach 360mi EPA. That is not possible currently with the physical size of the battery pack.

it matters to some extend. My 21 long range now have only 280 miles at 100%. I am not saying. so a 360 mile tesla would be perfect. after the first few years I am ok sitting at 300 miles.

It's very hard to get a hard fix on the range of the MYP. A lot of contradictory info out there. I know I have read the info, somewhere. The explanation felt very credible. Anyway, I don't recall the exact source, but i remember that I wished, when I read it, that the car was available when I brought my Juniper AWD last month. I would have definitely considered it even with they premium pricing. Anyway, I did some digging up again. They confirmed what I wrote earlier. Does that make it absolutely true? Hardly. Here is the link: https://electricdrives.tv/tesla-model-y-performance-revealed-as-sports-family-suv/

Idk maybe because I'm 5'4 lol, I only adjust my seat slightly straight when I want to drive and be fast, 98% of the time it never gets touched and I just chill and let FSD do its thing

A random blog/news site is hardly a reputable source. And they make no mention of US EPA rating. Indeed, 360 mi is the official WLTP rating for the UK. The US EPA rating will absolutely be less. Much less. https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/modely/design#overview