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Why do i feel like in some ways this is nicer than the Model X?
This looks amazing. 👌
Not sure. It’s not, except for the captain chair arm rests and those chairs folding. The X is nicer in every other way.
Definitely better than model X by the looks of it, especially the powered arm rests
So, only two seats in the rear?
It's quite got quite a bit over the Model X: - Leg support on front seats - Ventilation in second row - Heating in third row - Folding captains chairs - ~~Power frunk~~ This turned out to be false - Faster, actively cooled wireless charging - Adjustable seat head / arm rests
Sorry, did they release the specs somewhere? I’d love to see them.
Power Frunk? That's the first time i heard of that. And I assume the actively cooled wireless charging is just for the phones. What's this folding captains chair?
Yes, 6 seater. 2 2 2
Bro I literally just got the juniper and they wanna pull this shit on me 😭😭 looks good tho
Not to detract from your point, which is perfectly valid, but FYI the X has heating for third row
Correct on the wireless charging
- Powered front trunk. Can open/close with a button. - yes obviously the cooling for wireless charging is for phones. Lots of Luxary cars have this, it just blows the HVAC air to the phone (not the heated air obviously). - the second row has captain chairs you can see. They fold all the way down unlike the model X. The model Y has seats that fold down flat too. It is that simple to understand.
In the Chinese market: have you seen the seats in an alphard tho?
Amazing.
Not to mention significantly more range? Like 466 miles!? Is that legit?
TIL!
Alphard can do gravity seats so that’s an edge above.
CLTC so subtract about 30% for EPA range
Math hard
The automatic doors on the Model X hard to Beat. One of my. Absolute favourite features on any car ever. And I'm not talking about the falcon doors. I'm talking about the front doors. You just walk up to it with the key and the door fully automatically opens. So useful when youre carrying stuff with both hands. And also its cool as hell. When a passenger is coming towards the car, you can press a button and open the door for them with a button.
No, that’s CLTC which is higher than EPA estimates. Real world conditions will yield roughly the same range as the current AWD MY.
Here I was wondering (like 5% wondering) if they started putting wireless car charging like they planned to do for the robotaxi.
That's niiiice.
Looks like a solid addition of the right features that will increase TAM for Tesla across the globe. I bet they will announce this model for US near Q1!
Where’s this from?
I wonder how good the new damping is.
I have seen a lot of posts on Twitter about it sourced from [this video preview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlXKEXBGzG8)
So you just get 1 additional seat? Seems kind of a waste of space. Ironic that the regular Y has a 7 seat configuration. Why couldn't they just do that with the bigger car?
Finally. This will turn around those slumping sales numbers.
Wait do I see ISOfix latches logo on the third row? If so then this is a gamechanger
I usually multiply by 0.65 for EPA.
Still a Model Y CT edition on the outside. But probably still the best value car by far in certain markets.
This looks really good. Here’s to hoping this makes it to the states along with a cheaper config. The US desperately needs a good, reasonably priced EV people hauler.
Just connect the front light bars together and I'm in!
The East Asian market has a lot of people with private chauffeurs and they really prefer having the captains chairs while still sitting in the back.
If it comes to the US, a lot of this stuff will be nerfed. It doesn’t have to compete with other Chinese EVs in the US. It may not come out at all as to not eat in Model X sales.
They should really have an option for three seats in the second row.
This car is not available in the US for now. Entirely designed and produced in China for the Chinese market. There is no word if they even want to make this available internationally. If you're happy with Juniper then there is nothing to regret.
new new model y
entirely designed in china? doubt it
I have a 2024 Model X Plaid. This Y, just looking at the marketing material, does a lot more better, on first glance. Saying the X is “nicer in every way” seems like just an escape hatch to make us Model X owners feel better. 1. Ventilated second row seats. Seriously, wtf doesn’t the X have this? Captains seats on X is a worthy upgrade, but now the “lowly” Y gets it in the second row? This is a $6000 upgrade on Model X. 2. Arm rests (I keep a big pillow in the second row for passengers on long road trips). Again, $6000 upgrade on Model X. 3. Foldable third and second row seats. I would be happy with just electronically foldable and unfoldable third-row seats. 4. Seat back storage on the first row seat backs. 5. I actually use the wireless charger. Mine gets hot and I don’t understand why they never just routed cool air beneath the screen on that area. 6. NVH on new Model Y is fantastic and great if it’s carried over to this Y L. On my test drive with 2026 Model X, I’d bet it’s just as quiet, but there was terrible wind noise on the passenger side. I’d bet it’s a fixable flaw though.
This is going to sell like hot cakes! Bring it to the USA and I’m buying one!
I always thought they should've made a Model X trim/grade with regular doors. It would probably be at least 10K cheaper and sell more. I'm guessing it would be lighter and perform better as well. And the glass roof will be even nicer as one big piece. This Model Y will do. The 3rd row is probably still too cramped for adults, but should be okay for kids. And 2nd row captain's chairs is much better for 3rd row access.
That would put it just over 300 miles. I’d hope it would be a little closer to the AWD’s 327. .7 would put it right at 326.
Most of the newer cars are designed in china now. Lars talked about how the new model 3 was designed in china etc. just makes sense as manufacturing there is much easier.
do they detect cars to the side? I was playing with the doors on a X plaid yesterday and its a fancy feature but I felt it was not doing any detection when opening
China’s social media but clips were posted on X
It’s been spotted all over in testing. They will launch globally within 3 months
Too little too late
I really hate the front and rear. Really ugly. Si happy of my current tesla
I just got my X a few weeks back. Walking up to the car with your hands full, door popping open, sit, hit brake and the door shuts feels like luxury!!!
It is a rough estimate and matches better/worse for different brands.
Yeah facts. Pushing the break to close the door seems like a small feature but that's actually so genius. Love it.
Agreed. The only issue I ever have with it is sometimes it doesn’t open fully even if there is no one parked next to me. Not sure what would cause it but that’s been the only “error state” I have seen.
What is NVH?
Because it is. The "luxury" Tesla models are the worst value for your money because they get obsolete and even the "budget" models get better specs/features.
Would love this in the UK. Rarely have 3 in the back. But if I did need a 5th/6th I would chuck them in the back. Maybe even have these 2 seats down full time.
do you have a source for this? interested in it
https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1706887371713663138?s=46
Noise, Vibration, Harshness
Now this is a good car. The question is. Will there be a model Y performance version of this and when can i get one in Europe. Edit: big plus for the black headliner.
Don't all Teslas have Isofix? I don't know, so I'm asking
Need this in EU
As well as electronically controlled air suspension and 2400 cu ft of cargo space, makes driving the mountain twisties a breeze, and fits five adults with their luggage, frunk fits a US airline carry on, two beach chairs, and an espresso machine. Not trying to diminish the Model Y, great ride for a young family.
Any details/videos of 7-seat Model Y L?
Also the display behind the steering wheel with the lane change cameras now. This alone will keep in my X. automatic doors and air suspension as well of course.
"And I assume the actively cooled wireless charging is just for the phones" What else would it be for?
I don't think this is coming to the U.S. any time soon... So you don't have to worry about it... It would just totally annihilate MX sales and I'm sure Tesla knows this.
Not really. plenty of families that need this space but can't afford the X or won't pay the premium for the X... This will be very well received in china and even more so if it makes it's way to the U.S.
I thought you folks in the EU only liked tiny cars
After tax credit ends lol. This person should not have any regrets.
These would sell by the boatload in the uk
That's simply not true
You just said the captain chairs are improved and the $20 wireless charger. 😂
They do have two ISOFIX on the second row. I suppose they don't in the third row.
Upvote because true, we get oppressed 😎
I doubt this will land on North America as it might cannibalize the normal Y sales.
The folding captain chairs has peaked my interest
Luxury cars in general tend to depreciate a lot. Add onto that EV and the fact it is Tesla.
I actually do not like the display behind the wheel. That is one of the main reasons why I won't get an S or X. I want something different from the standard, and that's one reason why I love the 3 and Y so much more.
Damn I want this!
Yes, the third row appears to have latch connectors, which means it is the first tesla to support 4 car seats with latch connectors.
Currently in Chinese, probably in the next day or so. But so far 751km range 0-100km/h in 4.5 seconds 201 km/h top speed Long wheelbase six-seat layout **The second-generation (Juniper) suspension system** **is equipped with continuously variable damping shock absorbers** New maximum storage space 2,539 liters Slightly larger 16-in touchscreen Front seats: Seat ventilation and heating, and **electric leg rests** Second row: independent seats, **electric lift armrests, ventilation and heating,** electric folding
The Y L will have an active shock system, but not have the issues with air bags/pump motors failing after a few years.
Yes they do!
Yes it does. Mine never hit the car next to me, ever.
bring it to Canada.
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Wouldn't be surprised if there's a Model XL in the future. Sounds appropriate than YL lol
No. We do not want huge cars as we do not have places to park them :) This is not larger than usual EU SUV.
I’d buy this today. My 3 is tired. I’m ready. Bring to US
Feeling great. You just said the captains chairs are improved (they are), the seat back storage on the front chairs and wireless charger cooling. Tesla could update the captains chairs in the X and the rest of that is basically a few dollars in accessory improvements.
Take away the extra seats and I’m in
2017, mine are fine lol lucky me.
The savings from some door actuators is not going to outpace the cost of a new/revised production line with a new BOM.
…it just never seemed to work
Is this a common problem? I don't follow closely, but I can say my 2019 X has never had issues.
> for the Chinese market Everyone knows that the American market is the land of bigger is better. 100% certain this thing is intended for Americans soon.
People with kids prefer it too. STOP TOUCHING YOUR BROTHER
For me MX was always mostly a flex over the Y for those not routinely using the rear seats in it. Until there's a proper Yukon killer (Rivian's ahead here!), I think there's very little value in the X outside of rare use cases.
How are the chargers actively cooled?
I have a 3rd row Y and would not hesitate to buy this. Unfortunately I don’t live in China so oh well…
This is a ridiculous point to make...even as an MYP owner myself
Is that technically pneumatic (i.e. air suspension)? How does it differ from the air suspension on a Model X?
The X's captains chairs not folding down is a massive oversight. You have so much less room for storage (or sleeping if you choose) because of that oversight. Glad they're at least fixing it in the Y's captains chairs.
Have they nerfed other things previously? Anything substantial?
Darn. No turn signal stalks
Why do I feel like Tesla has out grown model x? Seems like they’re way more interested in Y than X
I think it is cause they sell more Model Ys so the overall gross revenue is higher hence more attention to it.
I have an S and used to have a 3, and I actually preferred just having one screen. Maybe I’d feel differently if Tesla let us put the visualizations on the main screen. The UX is worse without a touchscreen
Lumbar support made a comeback!
> 751km 466 mile range? Seems not possible.
And now for those with three kids, they can no longer have the use of the full storage area in the back. So for families of 5, you're going to the airport, you basically have half a trunk (since presumably one of the 3rd row seats is folded up).
To each their own. I was just stating my preference. I wasn't making a point. I know some people like the behind the wheel instrument clusters or screen.
I’m 100% trading my 2023 MY for this if it comes to the US.
It is using China's CLTC rating, which google says is about 30% higher than EPA ratings, so 326 miles EPA, which is still overly optimistic.
Insane?
This is a valid point. If it comes to US, Model X is done!
There's a small fan in them, pretty standard in Chinese EVs
Still hate the front end.
Yeah but does it have a water sensor on the windshield?
Taking an Alphard from the airport to the hotel and back is great way to start / end a long flight
I travelled in one for a 6 hour trip and it was amazing, even if it was a low to mid range one. Besides the zero gravity business class style seats (taking a guess, never been in business class) is the amazingly plush suspension - driver was driving 140 km/h (90 mi/h) on concrete highway and I barely felt or hear anything. Huge contrast with my 2022 Model Y with its firm suspension that transmits everything in to the cabin and frame.
Test Y with 6 Seater was seen in Germany yesterday.
Fits 5 adults? yes! With their luggage? Sadly not…
Exactly, other manufacturers also have the L variants (long wheelbase) models sold exclusively in China: Audi A4L, BMW Li models, Mercedes c300L etc. This isn't like the highland or juniper refresh (which they also released in China first for different reasons), it'll probably not come to the US anytime soon if at all.
Isn’t this supposed to be the budget friendly version, this doesn’t seem like the mostly likely answer to me, honestly looks like they can’t fit it.
No this isn’t the budget version. The budget version will be a different thing based on the standard Y
To summarize, 3 of the 5 over 6", each had a US size airline carry on suitcase, additionally one very large airline trunk, and 4 beach chairs, an espresso machine in carry case. Two collapsible chairs, one suitcase, and the espresso machine went in the frunk, the rest in trunk behind second row. $27/560mi one way with 3 charging stops from OH to SC. The 250kW Lincoln Electric (shout out to WV for modernizing rest stops) and EA (with CCS adapter) top the charts, the Charleston SC Supercharger was showing signs of wear, that whole state is run by petrol heads, EV charging desert zones galore and EV direct sales ban still in place. One issue many legacy auto EV manufacturers fail to focus on is [energy efficiency](https://cdn.motor1.com/images/custom/thumbnail/20240221-bev-us-comparison-energy-consumption.png), with its until recently best in class (Nio EC7 beats it) drag coefficient of 0.24 the MX makes 300mi on a charge very possible for normal people (lead foot here).
Either u like it or not, the quality of new model Y is just beyond anyone expectations. Truly the best car ever!
No. Not an air suspension. The shocks are active and can go from soft to stiff dampening based on road quality and settings. The height of the car does not change like S and X.
Weather extremes and for some reason rats like the taste of the bags. I've seen some shit.
so cool!
model 3 and juniper new models all go to china first and then rest of the world
More than oversight, they basically didn't have the tech -- at that time to do it. Very very few car's had captain's chair at that time.
their is almost no X sales to eat into.
I have no idea what's involve in producing a normal doors version, so I'm making a lot of assumptions, of course. I'm guessing it is similar to making a convertible version of a standard roofed car, which many car manufacturers have done, usually a year or so after.
can’t trade in cuz of huge price differences
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