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Gonna be hard to enjoy this when congestion fees start adding up pretty quick after you charge... lol
Supercharging doesn't really take long enough for a full diner meal most of the time. I wonder what the idle charges will be like.
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I’ll take an order of French fries with a side of supercharged ranch dressing
This doesn’t make sense. A Tesla diner on its own, as a novelty/to get attention, sure. Companies have done crazier things for marketing. I would think the end goal for EVs as a whole is fast charging, in that a full charge takes 5-15 minutes max. Nobody likes waiting while charging. If I’m traveling I want the fastest possible charge you can give me, not a tourist attraction.
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This makes more sense as a Sonic concept where they bring your order to your car. Then you can eat in your car or move it when you are done charging. There is not enough time to sit down, order and eat at a diner while supercharging without incurring idle fees or encouraging people to squeeze out that last 10-20% of charge.
After 2 hours driving most people want a short break - long enough for bathroom, snack, maybe an email or Facebook etc. On every trip we've taken with our M3 the car texted us that it has enough charge to continue before WE were ready to continue...
This diner experience works well for those of us like myself with older Teslas where it takes 45+ minutes to go from 20% to 80% but newer vehicles change substantially faster so owners will need to move their vehicles mid meal. This could be successful if you could order in advance to reduce the time spent at the location.
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There is a Tesla charger that is about 10 min out of my way compared to another one, and it charges at a slower rate. This charger has a All you can Eat buffet in the same parking lot. I take that detour and walk in sit down and eat and then head to my car at 90%. I was using a super charger 4-6 times a week, So ones with things to do beside them became my preferred places most often.
I hope it works out better than he thought CyberTruck would work out
Maybe waive the fee if you order food?
You could’ve been the first but you chose to complain too. That’s just how Reddit posts are
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I wonder if they can setup faster charging area and a slower charging area. Pick the charging speed upon your arrival based on what you want to do. The slower chargers could also offer no idle fees until you've been there for 2 hours or something.
This!!! It’s so negative!
I’m doubtful. The restaurant business is rough. Doubly so if it’s to serve a niche purpose. Unless Tesla is willing to take a loss for the increased engagement/retention this will suit a number of high traffic stations and nothing else.
As long as no idle fees are charged at these places, I don't see an issue with it. It would essentially be no different than a regular restaurant that is packed. This also might benefit from the "scheduled" charging, where you can essentially get in "line" to be next for a charger. I think it would be kind of neat.
Yeah, set destination for super charger - commence preheating of battery and bring up the menu. Pop up with the option to place an order e.g. 20 minutes before hitting the charger to make sure that it’s ready for you? Immediately withdraw payment from the Tesla account - check in upon arrival.
Cool idea, but I hope it doesn't go the way of the Tesla lounge at Kettleman City. Now it's just a waiting room with some bathrooms and vending machines. They use to have a barista onsite during certain hours. It's not a bad place to be, but it's sad to think of what it could have been.
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Tbh it doesn't sound like you had much to charge in the first place. I know from charging in single digits, I've done all that and literally have to figure out how to make the time pass. Easily 15-20 minutes. Plenty of time to grab an actual bite to eat.
No worries….. it will not happen as long as there is Buc-ee's.
Wow wow wow, your idea is far too practical for reddit. They'd rather bitch and gripe about something that isn't even happening yet and will most likely be solved before launch. My guess is this is exactly what they will do.
Yeah, like a 125 kw of charging, so you can use the infrastructure of a V3 charger for 2 vehicles or V4 for 4 vehicles.
Great idea. Like the hubs I remember while driving around Europe 15 years ago. Was mind blowing at the time.
The only way this concept will survive is if it's fully autonomous. The fast food industry is a cruel mistress and the cost of building one of these must be 20x that of a McDonalds (I'm guessing they spent around 40m on this location). Cool never the less, sadly I don't plan on travelling to LA any time soon.
Elon has proved yet again that Tesla is not just a car company. It is apparently a drive-in movie and diner company.
Until they can sort out a formal queuing set up for superchargers I don’t see how this is practical! I’m in the UK, maybe it’s just here that supercharging has become a headache.
80 chargers helps. Hopefully they implement something like no congestion fees if you’re dining in
Hard to imagine this isn’t where they’re going.l
They showed an interface where you can order in your car before you arrive. I would think that covers all the bases, no?
I mean I love the idea and the style - but I don't understand how'd be able to watch anything but a 20 minute episode of Friends or something. I supercharged for the first time the other day and I was done before even getting back with my food.
What’s cool about it? Why do you think Tesla diner would be good? What would make it better than hundreds of existing fast food places (or millions of food establishments)? The only think it has going is that people are forced to wait and if the supercharger is in a place where there is no food options people might go there to eat. I don’t care much about the place I eat at looking futuristic, I want the food to be good. It looks like another distraction for a car/solar/taxi/ai/battery company. Now they want to be a diner too. It’s a low margin industry, it’s hard business to have and I see a very slim chance of it being successful
Your idea is the opposite of practical. If they wave the IDLE fee because people are inside eating food, that's one less charger available for people who actually need to charge. The whole point of the idle fee is to get people to move their cars once at a sufficient charge. How are you going to feel when you show up to a charger on a road trip only for them all to be full because there is no incentive for the owner move their car due to the idle fee being waived?
It has to be fast food, in already predigested liquid, so that you can drink it up in 20 minutes before you continue your trip.
I mean, I'm curious about it. I'd definitely try it if I were near one. It just seems like a weird idea that's really far from Tesla's core competencies? Superchargers are also already (usually) near good stuff. I've half-jokingly referred to one I used to stop at regularly as a gas station with cloth napkins before (it's in the parking lot behind a Hilton), but I could see a need for something like this in more remote locations.
And that's in the middle of hollywood where real estate space is at a premium. If they build these on highways or interstates they will have alot more space to work with.
That’d be awful. I don’t want fast chargers to be overcrowded with people that aren’t charging.
Can you just charge to 100% or is that not allowed? Seems like that would by you an hour at least.
You sound disgruntled. No one is forcing you to go...
Or if you want extra time, I just set my car to charge to 100% and that last +20% takes longer than 20 to 80.
I was about to suggest the same thing, the benefits to Tesla to offer medium speed charging spots are so great, I kind of assume they're definitely gonna do that.
But he's complaining about complainers, so negative x negative = positive. The math checks out
I think ideally most people supercharge on roadtrips, but in practice I know a lot of Tesla owners charge regularly at superchargers. Personally, I'm with you, been driving Teslas since 2014 and should charge for free at SC but only use them on roadtrips, outside of 2-3 random local uses.
I am not disgruntled and I might actually try it. I just analyzing how it might affect the company and I don’t think my analysis points to a very good outcome.
Y'all people who think that there's no market for a longer stop to enjoy good foods, some silliness, and a lot of novelty on a road trip must have never seen a buc-ees. I personally would love something like this along common road trip routes. The supercharger network is one of Tesla's best features, but I hate that most of the locations are just at the back of a random parking lot.
I would guess it’s kind of like a restaurant at a hotel. It’s not the core business, so it really doesn’t have to make money- they just have to not lose their ass on the deal. From a business perspective it likely also helps that they’ve kind of got a built-in / captive audience, so that lets them charge higher prices than they would be able to otherwise.
It’s a cool advertisement but I can’t see it being a practical large scale rollout unless there’s a ton of slow chargers. This strikes me as more of an attraction. What would be a cool investment would be small vending or coffee kiosks, deffo the former
It reminds me of ikea buffet or Volkswagen sausage making (look it up). It might work, but who knows. Also - the charging is supposed to become faster and faster and the range increased so the captive audience might become less captive.
>Why do you think Tesla diner would be good? It's more interesting than just sitting in your car waiting and doing nothing. All else being equal - would you rather charge your car at a Tesla Diner or somewhere that has no food/movie screens? Clearly the Diner is a superior option. >What would make it better than hundreds of existing fast food places (or millions of food establishments)? It just needs to be good enough. And it's pretty damn hard to screw up Burgers, Fries, Hot Dogs, and Milkshakes. Also, most fast food restaurants have very little parking space - that's the whole idea behind drive-throughs (no parking). So even if Tesla wanted to partner with major fast food chains - it's not feasible to install Superchargers at most of their restaurants. And it's not like Tesla hasn't explored this option either. >The only think it has going is that people are forced to wait and if the supercharger is in a place where there is no food options people might go there to eat. The way Tesla currently works is they will install Superchargers at shopping centers/food courts where the infrasturucture already exists. But that infrastructure doesn't always exist where Tesla wants to put in a new Superchrager station, like the recently finished Lost Hills, Ca location ([186 stalls completely off-grid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6BjB63taZI&ab_channel=ChargePozitive)). So what's Tesla supposed to do in this case? They can try to convince other companies/businesses to build at the location or nearby - or they could do it themselves with a Tesla Diner. But even if Tesla is willing to partner with existing fast food companies, are those companies interested? This type of station isn't something you can easily retrofit into existing infrastructure. Technically it might be feasible but it's probably more efficient and less expensive to build it from the ground up. And instead of installing Superchargers on someone else's property, Tesla can buy/own the land its built on.
>It looks like another distraction I think if it's well-executed it could become a very popular/fun destination to hang out at and significantly improve the charging experience. Also, Kimbal Musk has been working in the food industry for decades and owns/operates several restaurants ("The Kitchen") in three cities. And in May of this year [Tesla added Jack Hartung to the Board of Directors](https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/16/chipotle-president-jack-hartung-joins-teslas-board-ahead-of-tesla-diner-launch/). Jack worked 20 years at Chipotle as the CFO, president, and chief strategy officer. Before that he worked 20 years for McDonalds as VP and CFO of the restaurant chain’s partner brands group. So this is obviously something they've put a great deal of thought into and have been considering for a while. >It’s a low margin industry, it’s hard business to have and I see a very slim chance of it being successful Chipotle has a 13% gross profit margin. McDonald's profit margin is 31.75%. YUM Brands (Pizza Hut, KFC, Taco Bell) has an 18% profit margin. Relative to the car industry - these are good numbers. Selling food and drinks is quite lucrative. That's where most gast stations make their money from - not gas. Gas is actually very low single digits margin. In fact, it's entirely possible that if this is successful and can scale, it may have better margins than Tesla's automotive segment. The advantage Tesla has is that Superchargers are literally bringing customers to its doorstep. And if there's nothing else around, then the Tesla Diner has a monopoly on all the potential customers. Tesla can build these Diners at isolated Supercharger stations where there's nothing else around and that alone will practically guarantee success
Most modern Teslas drive themselves from the production line to the parking lot before they are shipped. pay some kid minimum wage to zip around on roller blades, disconnecting charged cars from the Supercharger, and a geofenced FSD is added to your car whilst in the diner, so the car can, after being disconnected, drive itself to an empty space. You receive a nice notification from the app, informing you that it's happened and where your car is located. This would be the way.
Exactly!
Perfect suggestion.
This would only be for the diner locations. So why is that a problem?
I think this will be great and we'll probably see many more of these in the future. As long as the food is decent and prices are fair this should be a strict upgrade from the average supercharging experience. It also just looks like a fun place to hangout and get a bite to eat even if you aren't charging. I bet it's alot easier for Tesla to build their own Diners at isolated supercharger stations (like the new one in Lost Hills, CA) than to convince other businesses to move in or try to retrofit old infrastructure with chargers. It probably opens up the ability for Tesla to put stations anywhere they want instead of being forced to look for places that have shops/food. So from a business perspective, seems like a no-brainer. Food/drinks tends to much more lucrative then energy (gas/electricity).
Seriously, your idea is spot on. But then people can't be wowed by Optimus slowly performing a couple of super simple repetitive steps of incompletely filling popcorn containers and handing them off to people!
The solution is just to support ordering via your screen in the car and it’ll be ready when you arrive at the destination. It already knows when you arrive to the charger, and your Tesla has a credit card attached.
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I imagine the economics will dictate a similar path for this one. I can't see how a fully staffed location pencils out profitably once the novelty wears off.
The point of the thread is that congregation charging means people will be in and out quickly before the congestion charging rate kicks in.
Yeah, I think it would be easier for Tesla to partner. If it’s a decent location I don’t think companies would balk at the proposal. If not - it would be a loss for Tesla. I mean - they can try and do everything, but it’s not easy to be good at so many things Tesla is trying to do.
I completely agree. The biggest difference is the location.... but if the food is not compelling, there is no reason to eat there vs plugging in the car and going somewhere else to eat.
There's no possible way to fix that is there? Maybe after the bill is paid you have a 5-10 min window to leave.
Considering they've shared photos of wait-staff on skates, I think they're already doing that.
Negativity, pessimism, cynicism, Reddit.
Also I’m a bit concerned that my car is going to have a bias towards routing and charging in such a way to lead me towards this on a trip. I mean I think it’s obvious that in average Tesla would make more off a user at on of these rather than a random charger next to a McDonalds and a gas station. So what keeps them from tweaking the charging stops and routing to have the navigation system lean towards you stopping here. I don’t like the idea of that at all.
YES ELON LET'S F\*\*\*ING GO GIVE ME A PLACE TO CHILL WHILE I CHARGE
They already said they would have ordering via screen and the staff to bring it out...
Ah ok, I had not seen that.
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Even then, they would be blocking a stall unnecessarily while eating. Fast chargers are not for long stops.
Because Elon said that he wants to establish diners at Supercharger sites? Especially at the long-distance ones, where charging should be an absolute priority.
I wouldn't presume to know what is easier or whether this is too difficult to do. But i doubt this is more difficult than landing rockets. And besides, Tesla has already been doing everything you think would be better. And now they're opening up one Diner. To think this is will be a massive distraction is silly.
Truly a genius
I'm happy with these as they are. It's a cool concept and reminds us how much lifestyles when driving culture changes. I'd like to see these adopt some small interest in maybe local history display or showing off local native plant species in small gardens. Something for people to do while stretching their legs for 20 minutes. A taste of locality would fit nicely. Maybe I'm too much of a dreamer though.
I am not aware of Tesla landing rockets. You might have your opinions and that’s great. I owned a restaurant and I think have an idea of the business. It’s not easy, the margins are low, it’s high touch business that requires constant intervention and people being on top of things. Of course it’s possible to make a chain of restaurants work. Will Tesla make a chain of restaurants work - who knows. I am just not sure why they would need to get into it. Maybe because as someone mentioned they have a couple executives who did that in their previous companies and they want to do a familiar thing.
It's a cool idea but my car charges in like 15-20mins. Hardly enoungh time to enjoy any of that.
sometimes they have no business sense
It’s first and foremost a restaurant not a destination charger. If all the stalls are full, it would be reasonable to assume the restaurant is also full.
Hopefully they keep both options. I strongly dislike the idea of eating in the car. Also, on a longer trip getting out and walking around is good for me.
Or what if, some day they became self-driving, so they could drive away from the charger and park somewhere nearby? Would require the charging plug to be able to unplug itself, but shouldn’t that be possible?
O my bad, I completely forgot about charging rates (I have the free unlimited supercharging thing grandfathered in) Thought we were talking about the penalty for leaving your car after charging completes
I can only speculate but Wall St loves to talk about how strong of a moat Apple's "ecosystem" is. Looks to me like Tesla is doing the same thing - building an entire ecosystem and experience around EV ownership. Sure other EVs can charge on Tesla's network, but but they're designing Teslas to seemlessly connect to the Diner WiFi, Tesla owners will be able to order from their cars (maybe in advance?), and the audio from the movie on the Diner's screens will play through the in-car audio. Stuff like that might be Tesla-only. Or maybe the Superchargers at the Diner will be Tesla-only. It's little things like this that might nudge prospective buyers towards a Tesla versus an alternative, and retain Tesla owners when they're considering a new car. There's value in that.
Have it cooked to perfection and ready to the second of arrival bc you have the exact location.
They changed the penalty system, the fees kick in at 80% now if the station is full. Even if you’re still charging
Idle fees got replaced with a different “congestion fee” system, this no longer works. Either the station isn’t busy enough for fees and you’re not getting hit even when charging is done, or it is busy and the fees kick in once you hit 80%
You can’t sit down order and eat fast casual food in 30 minutes?
Would’ve been cool if instead of playing around with the robotic snake charger they could’ve just designed superchargers to have a spring loaded disconnect so when it’s done charging it would just eject the charge cable and reel it back to the supercharger. Manual plug in but automatic eject. Then the car could move itself to a parking space instead of a charger.
Wow didn’t know. What happens if you need 100% to get to the next charger?
Better hope the station isn’t busy enough for the fee to kick in! 🤷♂️ (It needs to be pretty busy in my experience. Like, people literally waiting for a spot)
Yeah, I like idea of pre heating battery, order on screen, it books you 30 min table if you choose. Outdoor too. You can choose to eat in car but should be encouraged to stretch legs. Etc
The AI support bot on Tesla's website: "According to Tesla's policy, idle fees are waived if you're actively dining at the Tesla Diner while your vehicle is charging. So, go ahead and take your time enjoying your meal – you won't incur any idle fees. However, please note that congestion fees might still apply if the Supercharger station is busy and your vehicle has reached a high battery charge level (typically 80%) or once charging is complete. But don't worry, you'll receive notifications through the Tesla app when your vehicle is approaching the congestion fee threshold, so you can plan accordingly. It's always a good idea to keep an eye on your vehicle's charging status and adjust your plans if needed to minimize any potential fees. Happy dining and charging!" So yeah, not sure why anyone would want to go there and be rushed through a meal/worrying about congestion charges.
I would love for them to figure out a way to do this. Getting out is so annoying sometimes lol. I know it is lazy but when it is cold or raining I hate it lol.
Having food and bathrooms by a larger proportion of the superchargers would be amazing.
Yeah and just ask grok to order it for you and when you arrive Optimus brings it out to you.
Shouldn't the car be able to move themselves when done charging?
This is all fine. I think what I've learned about me is that I just don't want to live in Musk's world. The way his businesses seem to be built is you are either in or out. If you're fully in, its incredible. If you're not, its not. There are may other companies built like this, so I don't think theres anything particularly wrong with the strategy, its just not for me.
I don’t understand what’s the point of Tesla trying to enter the restaurant business. It’s a complete waste of capital. They know nothing about running a restaurant. Even if somehow they figured it out and can make them as profitable as a Chipotle location, it’s still a low margin business. Why would you go from high tech high margin business to running low margin restaurants and burning your capital?!
I don't understand why they don't open up the map to restaurants to this concept already! Doesn't even need charging, I want to save time!
Give me a high quality open faced turkey sandwich with gravy and l might have to overlook his seig heils.
possibly the most braindead take I've ever seen on reddit.
I had it on Sunday. Driving up to go camping, plugged in CT at 12%, needed 97% to continue (unable to charge at destination, so set to arrive at 90%), which should have been easy to finish lunch at a 150kw charger, but the restaurant was so fckn slow, it charged to 100% before we even got our food, got up to $5 in idle fees hoping some people would leave to drop it below 50% occupancy, but had to get up just as our food was coming to go get the truck and drove to the restaurant. Used the waitress' tip to pay the idle fees. And added a comment to the goggle rating of both the restaurant, and the charger to absolutely not go there while charging unless you want to pay idle fees.
"Used the waitress's tip to pay the idle fees?" Absolutely wild choice, its not like shes the one making the food.
Not everyone is going to want to go to the restaurant though
They literally already have that. Why is this upvoted.
It's a novelty that will almost surely bring more cash than it burns due to the marketing benefits and the high prices supported by said novelty. Regardless, even if it makes literally $0 in revenue, it's such an insignificant cost at Tesla's scale that it doesn't matter. They have massive amounts of capital, and this will always be a small part of their business compared to their cars.
The real world isn't so drowned in tribal politics-filled cynicism like you and your fellow redditors are. Check out the videos of people experiencing the diner. It's all huge crowds and good vibes, while you're here being a stick in the mud.
Yeah, I suppose without additional context that seems a bit harsh, but: A: This was Michigan, so I already tip minimally, as wait staff here made it clear they don't want to receive a living wage for their work. I won't force money into the pockets of those who have already turned it down B: It's also not my fault, so there is no reason I should have to pay the same for bad service. C: There is plenty wait staff can do to overcome both A & B in a slow cook situation, none of which was done. The waitress only checked in with us once with a very inaccurate time estimate. Our drinks were never refilled, and were still empty after our food was brought out, and never got refilled in the entire 1.5 hours we were there. It was just bad.
Or imagine doing this with Grok: "order me a burger from the next tesla diner" and then the car does that and sets the nav to your destination.
They’ll need to figure out idle fees. Fat chance of being a patron here if you’re also getting charged per minute outside or need to run to your car.
In the description of the video ad on yt it says they will bring it out to your car or you can come in. And order from the touchscreen in the car
Make sure to include a drive in. Pre order through Tesla screen, pay by card that is in Tesla account, arrival time shared with restaurant, pick up at the window and immediately plug in to charge. Enjoy in the car or outside, clean up your trash (!), leave.
How would you feel at a restaurant if they threw you out after your second bite to make space for people who just arrived?
Well, there are tons of other charging stations nearby to use.... this is such a dumb argument. You act like there's only 1 place to charge in all of LA and it's being consumed by a restaurant.
Same, I hate eating in the car. Only do it if I absolutely have to.
That's an intentionally bad take. How do you go from an idle fee, which provides incentive for a charged car to be moved, to "Tesla is going to physically kick you out of the restaurant." Nice troll job.
The new ones are faster. I’ve gone from 10-65 in under 10 minutes in my 24
One in China would be great. The rest stops are plenty and charging everywhere but we need more food options.
It’s a staffed diner, so they could easily have a valet moving cars around if needed.
Can they just go back to focusing on developing new cars. Does anyone really give a shit about remotely controlled robots and mediocre retro futurist diners?
The only way this works is you have to have a ton of non-charging parking, and ideally valets that will move your car when finished. People will be upset that they got charged idle fees for eating, and people will be upset that they arrived to a supercharger that has a bunch of unplugged cars camping. Obviously the real long term answer is fully automated charging and cars moving themselves out of spots.
They need valets to move the cars that have fully charged
No way! Not at these specific sites. There should be some understanding that this will be a "different" experience.
Have a means to waive the idle charge if there is spending at these Tesla diners would help no?
Things that come to mind: Ikea restaurants, Costco food counter, grocery store hot food buffets. My local Bass Pro Shop has a giant aquarium with a shark. My brother takes his son there because his son insists on going there, in part because of the fish...and consequently $50-$100 gets spent. Apparently some Bass Pro Shops have restaurants, as do places like Target/Walmart/Sam's Club. None of these are the focus of the business but create fondness for the brand. Brand enhancement is abstract and doesn't always make sense on a spreadsheet. For Tesla, the value is a [cool building near semi-dystopian downtown LA](https://i.redd.it/mfb2171n4fef1.png) showing optimism for the future and flexing a bit of their efficiency muscle to remind people that they're a "Do things the way they should be done" company. To order food on the car's screen while the car drives itself to a restaurant, park and charge, tune the car sound system in to the big screen film, have a waitress on skates bring the food to your car, eat and then have the car drive itself on to the next destination...it's the kind of stuff a lot of us 80s and 90s kids imagined the future would be like. So in terms of brand enhancement: now people are seeing this, or their friends are talking about it, and it makes them feel good about Tesla. If the restaurant breaks even then that's just free advertising.
Takes you longer then 45mins to eat a sandwich?
you're right like any good business, they got everything figured out on day 1. no room for error
They might have to relax them or add extra parking, idk
Oh my god its 1956 again. these fucks really have no new ideas
This feels like someone took two completely different business models and smashed them together without thinking about the timing - it's like trying to run a sit-down steakhouse inside a gas station. Most people charge for 20-30 minutes max, which is barely enough time to get your order taken, let alone enjoy a "dining experience" without stressing about idle fees piling up. The pre-order via car screen idea makes way more sense, but at that point you're basically just building an expensive drive-through with extra steps and vintage decor.
Musk seems to be in a parallel universe now. Reality does not bother him. It's a bit like Trump. They generate and narrate a storyline, which is no longer based on the facts anymore.
I am not sure how that makes sense. Eating in the car? Is that now common?
You just drove for 3-4 hours. Get your ass out of your car seat and walk around a little. Or at least use a different seat to give your cheeks a change of scenery.
It isn't. The congestion fee means that they kick the car out before it's done charging. That is the same as a restaurant kicking you out when they deem you've eaten enough. Or a car wash kicking you out once you cleaned 3 sides of your car, because cleaning the back side isn't "necessary" and there are other people queuing for the washbay. A bus driver kicking you out 80% to your target because it's full and they want to let people in. Your hairdresser charging you extra for the last 20% of your haircut when there's people waiting. The cashier in the supermarket asking you to pay a congestion fee to ring up the last 20% of your purchase because there's a queue behind you. Name me **one** other business model where they kick you out or charge you extra because other customers arrived after you. (And no, queue-jumping fees are something else.)
Perhaps they could magically enable FSD to the extent that you have ASS "plus" available. Once your car finishes charging, the robot could grab the charging cable and your car can go park somewhere while you finish your meal. And then come pick you up as you pay on your way out.
Cold food. Long waits. Surly employees. That is what my experience has been.
Only problem is long lines and you’re super charging so it’s very fast to charge your vehicle. Long lines and idle fees if you can be at the diner and not have the idle fees then it might be better.
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