Model y spotted testing in india ahead of the launch

Good! Curious to see how Saudi sales will be?

Very tiny market for it in India at their current price point.

Why camouflage it when we already know what it looks like ...

I want to see full self driving in Dehli.

Not possible in India. The vehicle will simply freeze, very often, with the kind of chaotic state of affairs on Indian roads. There are seemingly no rules on Indian roads, so teaching vehicles to ‘self drive’ in such chaotic environment itself is a challenge. You will truly need AI of the highest order, matching that of an experienced Indian driver, who knows how to negotiate with the traffic conditions and other road users. Kind of impossible with the FSD that is used on Western toads, which itself is far from perfect.

Tiny out of 1.4 billion

People in India don't have enough money for a Tesla

Considering that UAE and Qatar don't even appear in the top-20 on sales numbers, I doubt KSA will be much higher.

Yes. I was thinking about that. Full self driving, if any brand, will never work in India, right?

How do I get this wrap?

Entering the market now is to prop out the retail and service network for the next play when cheap model comes out

If you ignore the poorest 98% you still have a market of 28 million people.

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99.99 percent of India are poor

People in India can't afford any kind of car

Many Indians don’t

Lower cost car just come. To India and other south eastern Asian countries

You’re saying only 140K people in India are not poor out of 1.4 billion? Source?

They have internet on their phones

With about a million dollar millionaires and how far a million dollars go in India, I think it's fair to say this is wrong.

Can’t wait to see it in person. I’m a little skeptical based on pictures, but cars always look different in person.

Chill - Standard - Hurry - FORWARD PROGRESS New acceleration modes.

They probably just sent the camouflage unit they tested in China over to India and didn't bother to remove the wraps. I've heard that their move to India has had a lot of setbacks so they might want to keep it low-key in case it doesn't happen again.

Have you been following the more versions? Its very close and they got there completely from just training the AI on how other drivers react. They could literally use that same training data once the car's launching over there and train up the AI. Sure pre-programmed self-driving software would not work but I think ai-based self-driving could learn how to pull it off.

Why does India not care about enforcing safety rules on their roads?

at-least they can fit inside one

India had 326,400 millionaires with a net worth of at least $1 million as of December 2023, according to Visual Capitalist.

My friends are already waiting to buy MY but what they don't realise is that there's not enough charging infra for long journeys. Basic AP won't engage because of lack in lane markings, even if there were markings, the car would not have a smooth journey because of the amount of bikers and cabs that cut into the lane each minute. A manual driver would just continue with the acceleration but AP would slow down and maintain the safe distance. More it tries to maintain the distance, more opportunities for others to cut in. Can't imagine how the tech would work.

Camouflaging any variant of the model 3 or Y seems a bit of a joke at this point. It barely changes at all. Probably more done for PR than anything else.

If you visit Delhi and do a 1-2 hour commute at 6:30pm you will know instantly why self driving is a laughable joke in those countries. I recently was on a work trip there, people can’t even comprehend how bad the traffic chaos is. I also live in Bangkok, and here motorbikes are such a risk that if self driving cars were allowed on the roads right now, I’d estimate 100 riders would be killed in the first week. Traffic flow is extremely hard to understand unless you’re a local with driving experience. You often have to take evasive action multiple times per trip and the margins between a smooth journey and killing someone are inches. The issues that need to be resolved to make it safe will take a couple of decades of immense change when it comes to developing nations.

With a society like India with so many people and habits formed over the last century, enforcing any change in road rules would require an actual army. Their behaviours and habits when driving are so deeply engrained, it would be almost impossible. The only way you can do it is through relentless education from the time they are a child, and it will take many decades.

The TAM here is approximately 3-5 million people for a car in this price range. Out of that not sure how many would buy electric.

India, in general, is a chaotic country. Constantly adjusting, and continually accommodating themselves, in an increasingly chaotic conditions, is what Indians excel in doing. No one is interested in fixing the problem or root cause. The tolerance level to chaos is indeed extraordinarily high. Sadly, that is not a virtue, and should not be viewed as a virtue. There is near enough absence of any road rage. No desire to reject the chaos, and bring in a system. Fundamentally, India mostly lacks a system. Chaos is the system.

> more done for PR than anything else. It worked to get a thread doing here on Reddit at least. 😅

Cars have to stay on others’ bumpers, drive in multiple lanes, weave, know when someone is cutting them off vs pretending, sound the horn at appropriate times… it’s truly a non-trivial task.

Saw it yesterday in the Netherlands. Looks like model y with a strange ass. Front is alright

Very possible.

Well said

I have no idea what this is, it is camouflaged

For one thing, the datasets need to be updated for India. Just recently I was driving on a road and I noticed a chariot with plastic horses behind me. I could list a 100 more crazier examples of road 'vehicles' if I gave it enough thought but the gist is that this kind of stuff will confuse the existing algorithms like crazy. And it's not just data collection. It's the way people drive here, the unspoken rules we have - Tesla's FSD algorithms need to be upgraded by a research team based in India, followed by years of testing. And the second issue is, of course, Lidar. Musk's insistence on relying solely on cameras has made Tesla's FSD far inferior than many other Robotaxi companies in California. Indian roads are often not properly marked, so detecting speedbreakers, road boundaries, entry and exit points is bound to be less reliable with just cameras.

It just looks cool

that’s double Tesla’s current output

Tiny market to build a factory but big enough to build infrastructure and service centers.

It’ll sell like crazy at their current price point of ~45 lks. The trouble is, with taxes, it’ll end up being around 80-90 lks (~ $100k).

The Cybertruck has solidified squinty headlights and taillights as vogue. Soon every car will have nothing but a thin line on its face and tail.

it can stay there

i want to see FSD here (it’s actually pretty good here but not Full

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First of all, you don’t need a commercial success to have an influential design. Second, it’s a commercial failure because people like me canceled their orders when Musk jumped in bed with Trump and turned me off.

Why don’t people ever wrap their cars in test decals they honestly look cool

Yes. I think if/when it works, at scale it will become a huge economic disadvantage not to have that in certain countries. Like not having access to the internet.

Is it me, or does that rear-end remind you of a straight faced frown with the license plate as a chin goat?

Are those 18 inch wheels? If so, it could be the new E80 Model Y. It also looks wider if compared to the latest Juniper, could be the new MYP either

And toot the horn…