Tesla ends sales of Model Y Launch Series in Europe, introduces regular lineup

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That was faster than I expected.

Shocked they went through 100,000 launch badges globally that quick tbh

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When did they have test drives of the new model a “while back”?

He didn’t

Lies

Yes that was a lot faster than launch editions of the Cybertruck.

*Except in the UK, Launch Series is still offered here

Wait till q4 for a cheap pch deal.

That's not surprising at all

They had test drives a while back? Where?

Is that the number of launch editions?

Same

Imagine how big of a loser you need to be to spend your time perpetually online in car subreddits making up lies about cars you don't own or drive.

Bahaha right!

Really, dude?

This surprises me a bit but I guess (from what I read) the launch edition was way less appealing in Europe than the US because they didn’t get FSD included and maybe something else … but it was priced like the us one that does.

Waiting for this!! Gonna get that new model Y for less than 40k USD!

Europe… 😂

FSD in Europe is pretty much useless. EU laws on the amount of G forces a self driving system is allowed to exert on the driver prevent it from making turns at anything above walking speed. It's only good for lane keeping or changing. Already a problem with on and offramps. So FSD has a near zero take rate. The only working function it adds is recognition of traffic lights.

As expected. Its not going well either. Lets see how things pan out.

But it is doing sharp turns already in regular AP? And why are competing brands doing higher level self driving in Europe?

or just a lot more orders in a shorter period of time given the price range

ya, but then they ran out of white interior pretty fast, so that as a telling sign.

Nah, they pretty much fixed offramps since with the „curve assistant“ which activates automatically - I don‘t know what that really does, maybe something to circumvent restrictions they have in regular highway FSD code? That one is supposedly still the old code in Europe, not the one that‘s heavily based on neural networks.

tbh not sure, I thought China alone had \~200k launch edition orders, at least the reported numbers were close to 200k before we had confirmation of them starting to take orders of regular versions... eitherway, impressive.

It's because tesla calls it level 2. Call it level 3 and you're allowed more. My tesla only does sharp turns at low speeds. Like parking. Autosteer disengages on most on or offramps and if I use it in a normal street, if the road has any significant turn.

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I’d be curious to see the sales numbers outside of China. Because removing the launch edition so quickly could also mean lack of sales. Or it could mean that they “sold out” in these markets. I guess we’ll have to wait a few months to know!

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What’s stopping them from calling it level 3? My impression was more that they chose to focus on the US first.

You can buy it. But atm the only function that is enabled, is the traffic light and stop sign recognition.

What’s a pch

Calling it level 3 means the driver doesn't have to pay attention. The manufacturer would be responsible for accidents. FSD in the US is officially still level 2, meaning the driver is responsible at all times.

You know if others have called it level 3 in Europe yet?

Stellantis announced theirs today. But it's not for sale yet. I believe BMW has something, but it's geo fenced.

Yup it can go either way lol like u said. We will wait and see

The UK is in Europe

Test drives began this week at most. So he’s lying

Leaving European union doesnt mean leaving whole continent…

I got invited for it.

More like “we sold out of all the Launch editions we could build” and are now switching to general production

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What's not going well?

Lol

Model Y is the best selling vehicle in the world last 2 years and sold 1.1-1.2 million annually. If the total launch edition is 100k, that’s only 1 month of production.

Of demand?

Uk terminology for lease without option to buy

Ha! Over here, it's the Pacific Coast Highway (1)! :D

Would t be surprised if its ended in the U.S right after deliveries start. The majority of Launch edition buyers are those that ordered on day 1 and it probably fell off quickly.

Currently only Mercedes and BMW as I know of. Stellantis revealed their level 3 AutoDrive literally yesterday, but it's not available to consumers yet. Volvo is supposed to enable level 3 this year for their EX90, but I haven't heard anything about it for a while, so it might have been delayed.

Or Ireland, which suggests they’ve not sold the planned allocation of RHD cars they’re committed to producing, I can’t believe it’s because they’re selling so many at a premium price they’re extending the run.

You and I think alike

Probably 50% off MSRP.. judging by way my 2021 Y depreciated. I will never buy another new Tesla.

I thought sales in Europe have been trending down over the last couple months. I think the data is probably imperfect, but would be hard to equate strong demand with decreased sales.

Pacific coast highway?

The one data point on this is that deliveries for the non-launch edition start in June. I'm not sure if that is an artificial delay, or because they have 3 months worth of launch editions to produce first.

How much did you pay for yours?

The website is blurred out. But there is an ad and the x on the ad does nothing...

It will take time to fully ramp back up to 1.2 mil annual. It might go faster but they don’t want to overpromise new buyer in case they might cancel late orders. Better to deliver early than late. Tesla did the same when they were capacity constraints years ago.

Not if the slowdown in demand was caused by people waiting for the new model.

But isn't that the point. Its been out and is now slowing?

Probably bc sales werent what they expected. Time to offer a less costly version. If orders were steadily rolling in for the more expensive launch edition, they wouldn’t have released a cheaper option yet

There were a limited number of Launch Series Y (as evidenced by the white interior allotment selling out a couple weeks ago). CT Foundation Series weren’t limited and were made until they ran out of people willing to pay six figures for the truck.

Or The 1(idk if anyone actually calls it that).

What isn’t going well??

And the fact deliveries were promised on the site much quicker than cybertruck which took 5 years

Yes

yeah either/or :D

I’m waiting till non-launch edition releases in the US before buying. I don’t want a white interior, 22” tires, or a fancy color. Just give me the base Long Distance RWD edition!

Finally

You living under a rock?

Well, two things. 1. Nobody expects the model y launch ramp up to take as long as the cyber truck 2. We don't really have any data to tell us how well Juniper sales are going. Not yet anyways.

What's the difference because between launch and regular versions?

The brand is dead in Europe, so many companies and individuals are trying to get rid of their cars. The people that bought a few years ago are crying their eyes out right now. A new model is not going to change that.

Definitely taking a big hit. I don't think dead is an accurate description....yet

We are still in the shock phase, the hate is just ramping up. They are pretty much giving away used Teslas at the moment. Should make a tracker, sure looks like a flood, new lows almost daily. Companies absolutely have to get rid of theirs, or they will get harassed endlessly. The private owner might be more resilient.

Where is the performance model?

The Y does volume, the cybertruck never will.

European are not buying Tesla anymore

At 10 km from where I live in Belgium , hundreds of teslas have been parked and wrapped in plastic foil for months.

I would not buy it.

Since reports are that sales are off by an average of -50% in Europe, it would seem lack of sales.

We need more data points. There's been one main dataset for Jan in Europe that is circulating around, which I suspect is a trend, but it coincides with a new Model Y launch. I think someone pointed out that it was Model Y that caused a huge drop in sales. If it is across all models of vehicles, that's a bigger issue, but I'm trying to find the actual numbers.

Buying a Tesla is just telling the world you are gay.

Lol?

Sales are dropping fast in Europe for Tesla and worse it will get. Low quality (lowest scoring in multiple test organisations) makes the second-hand value drop like a stone. Hence larger cooperations with fleets are pushing out Teslas, sales of new cars are mainly driven by large fleet owners. (https://www.tuev-verband.de/pressemitteilungen/tuev-report-2024-e-autos-zeigen-bei-der-hu-ihre-schwachstellen)