https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1877528162206183813?s=46
That will certainly help for self parking. My hw3 is pretty awesome at backing into parking spaces, hopefully this will make new ones just as good at front parking
Here is a screenshot of the same thing from the initial Highland release. These promotional images can not be trusted. https://preview.redd.it/tbf5jvkks2ce1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36e52d48e6f240e8728772eafb9d71c4133fdd86
The Chinese site explicitly state that it has a front view camera so this is legit https://preview.redd.it/chjruj2at2ce1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ed40f847a40391a700f77cc3ae6c395c85a4ed4 Edit: link to other comment in this thread [https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/s/cAgjtXL8a9](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/s/cAgjtXL8a9)
No they can not. Refresh model S was advertised to come with tilting screen and Steam app but mine came with neither. I was an early adopter. They didn’t introduce it until the end of the year I believe
Next up: motorized frunk please!
It’s clear on glacier blue promo images that there is something https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/s/ee29USn5cw
I wonder if they might include a HUD this time?
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They won’t
I don’t see a reason promoting that if it’s just referring to the windshield one tho. Edit: all these downvotes. Sure, just believe what you want to believe man
The official China site specifically says new Model Y has front camera.
360 parking camera view would be nice
Bumper can helps, but I don’t think that’s enough for full 360. There’s a bit of a blind spot between the repeaters and rear camera. HW4 may be different though
It's about time, I hate not having 360 view in 2025 when a Kia offers it.
Yup I remember this. The website also says “front facing camera”, which can easily mean the cabin camera. I personally hope it does have it. For an SUV / family car, it’s needed
For this logo, it's the Tesla Vision, the one in wiendshield
The current vision gives a nice 360 view.
Already has that feature
We can keep dreaming :,)
It literally says on the Tesla official website there is a new camera and why 😂 there's definitely a front camera https://preview.redd.it/nsdj2nx1d3ce1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18464bf1334cb0a1723bf6e2f044e68a205cbd6a [incase you don't believe it see for yourself 😂](https://www.tesla.cn/modely)
I actually like the design of the front and rear. its more modern and futuristic.
you’ll also be able to spray it with windshield fluid, also the car won’t have the Front T badge. motorized rear seats, back seat display
Looks like a Kia lol
Really? I haven't seen the top down (bird's eye) view yet.
That could mean the normal windshield camera
I could see that being a feature exclusive to model X and S
https://preview.redd.it/cnm6v2njl3ce1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26efd1d09b928981abd8a48584525451903e7719
They've added that feature to Y now. Check out the videos on Tesla website
https://preview.redd.it/e0ckesypm3ce1.jpeg?width=1037&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=159ac708ba38c61d2a29fb0dc3e56a030f267898
Like the 2 front facing cameras that are already in the windshield? I don’t think this is the confirmation you thought it was
The windshield camera is a front-view camera, buddy.
They can't do 360 view with current camera setup even with front bumper camera. Still has blind spots. No camera can see the front tyres or front fenders.
It has a front bumper camera. Just like cyber taxi and cyber truck. Front bumper camera is needed for FSD.
Did everyone conveniently forget that the windshield has 2 existing front facing cameras? Let’s wait till someone has the new car
What proof? Teslas have had three different front facing cameras for a while now.
And unsupervised FSD should be here any day, right?
3*
Hardware 3 = 3 cameras Hardware 4 = 2 cameras
Clearly none of you were paying attention when Tesla announced the Model 3 refresh and then promptly removed promotional images with the front bumper camera. And a lot of you seem to fail to grasp that front-view camera is ambiguous. Not saying it isn’t possible, but I wouldn’t have my hopes up until the first delivery takes place.
The marketing video has an up close view of bumper camera.
Yeah true
which video shows the motorized frunk? I don’t see that anywhere
That says 'provides a wider field of vision'. How does a camera recessed into the bumper provide a wider field of vision? Maybe it's added to the test vehicles to validate what the standard production cameras are seeing like potholes and speed bumps.
It’s promoting that the windshield camera now has a wider FOV.
https://preview.redd.it/yzuz0a7pp3ce1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=a5067ae97a97154c89a81a0e76492b6ee921212f
That looks like an indicator to remind you to close the frunk. If that was a button, then it’d replace the “Open Frunk” option (similar to the motorized trunk) Also there’s no mention of a motorized frunk in the press release, it would have been there if this was a feature. They advertised the motorized rear seats for example
We will see then i guess
Yeah if it motorized then it would be the same button to close it, just like the trunk...
> Front bumper camera is needed for FSD. You just made that up.
false, i checked: it shows them clicking open on the screen. Animation shows the frunk opening, exactly as it shows now. There is no "close" button appearing on the screen which means you'll have to close manually. There even appears a reminder to do that in the video [https://www.tesla.com/en\_hk/modely](https://www.tesla.com/en_hk/modely) scroll down to where it says "expansive storage"
Nearly the same front end as the cybercab
I wonder if they changed the B-pillar cameras orientation like it's done in cybercab (for better forward visibility)
It literally shows new camera in the front of the car in the website 💀
https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/s/ziegWRFsd0 https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/166syxi/tesla_model_3_highland_has_a_new_front_bumper/
Hardware 5 = 1 camera
Hardware 6 = 2 eyes
No. There is no 360 camera view in Teslas.
Stop stealing Lucid designs
This is the right take as it reserves judgment until the new extra camera is confirmed
The Cybertruck doesn’t use the front bumper camera for FSD
You can see the standard looking struts that wouldn’t support the ability to automatically close in the press release photos
Front bumper camera mentioned in the AU/New Zealand press release - timestamp 5:06 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LegePE9hb0Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LegePE9hb0Q) u/
It had that for the highland as well
Hardware 7 = 1 eye and 1 eye patch
Ah yes, the forever dirty camera.
Yet...
The new 3D parking visualization is better than 360 top down or birds-eye view IMHO. You can rotate and zoom the view to see your proximity to objects around you.
I like it also.
How about no? One less thing to break over time.
Yeah, do people who want bird-eye-view even tried the parking visualizations? They are awesome and actually really accurate according to AI DRIVR's video testing it. It only can forget (at least what was then, idk if they fixed it) when you get too close and a bit change the shape, but it's fixable (again, if not fixed already) and personally I really like it.
The windshield camera is a front view camera
I need the ground marking lines. Objects I can generally already see.
Yeah let’s go back cranks for the windows too. One less thing to break over time. /s
What’s more mechanically complex?
Crank window works when the battery goes dead. No motors to fail.
That's an interesting point, I assumed they had a camera looking forward from the b pillar that they just didn't show in the UI. But if not, that would be disappointing.
That's different though... there's no text for it but ok lol. They would have to literally remove an entire section from the website to remove the camera
Must be all of the recent buyers who just couldn't wait salty they don't have a front camera that's down voting 😂
Cybertruck has it already
you do see that in 3D visualization. It’s even better than 360 camera, because cameras are very distorted where two cameras merge.
I hope this is there and I assume it's for cross traffic, I don't get why they don't move the repeater cameras all the way to where the headlights are and make them 180 degree field of view, that would allow the car to see around the vehicle better when pulling out into traffic.
Interesting! I will test it out next time I am over at Tesla for service.
Stop spamming this everywhere, you’ve already been corrected that this doesn’t mean a bumper camera lmao
Not yet either, they’ve never talked about any need for a bumper camera
There are multiple marketing videos with clear view of bumper camera. You are in denial if you think juniper model Y does not have it. If Tesla has always had a dash cam why would they specifically say front view camera if nothing has changed? This car definitely has a new bumper camera. The dash cam location sucks, it can't see around corners. That's why they added bumper camera and it specifically mentions wide angle. This was a huge miss and glad they finally added it. Model 3 will get it eventually also.
One of the front cameras is a wide angle camera that’s why it says that, cmon now. Again, multiple people have already pointed out that blurb is not for any unconfirmed bumper camera, so you are still wrong with the spam. FSD performs fine already, that’s why we don’t have crashes every 5 seconds. If it needed a bumper camera 1) they would have brought it up by now 2) they would have put in the refresh 3 The marketing and preorder page for the 2024 M3 also had the same cutout for a camera visible but ended up never being a thing in any version.
Front cameras are usually not as dirty as rear cameras
Even then they changed their mind a year or so later and stopped putting the steam hardware in right? So basically need to buy within a ~1 year period
Some rear cameras have jet cleaners tho
Hardware 8 = White Cane and service dog
Is it possible to see (or know) how close you are to a fence? I can see that currently with my car with a 360 camera within about 2 inches.
Is there a particular video that you can direct me to? I am wondering how accurately and precise the visualizations are. My parking spot is tricky, and I manage that right now with a 360 camera that allows me to see probably within 2 inches of a fence. Distortion is not a problem in my case.
2" is pretty tough to say. 6" definitely. Can you see this obstacle in your physical mirrors?
Not sure why they would just list the front cameras as "enhanced" and not mention the other 6 cameras. I think they added it. We know they did for the cyber cab and cyber truck already..
What do we gain with speculation?
The cars I have seen with really good 360 views have cameras mounted under the side mirrors as well.
lol you clearly don’t own one
Lmao whose mind actually thinks like this
Lmao the downvotes indicate that “believe what you want to believe” applies most to you
I was hoping they would finally do something about VTG or at least VTL like nearly all other EV's have. Shame.
I didn't think X had a motorized frunk either.
Yeah I was saying that I could see Tesla adding it to just the X and S.
Looks like a villains car now.
The way some cats hide the rear camera in the emblem is really good as it always stays clean. Only works when it’s open of course but I like that it’s never dirty and don’t really need the rear camera when not reversing.
360 cameras are very good and extremely useful. 3D visualization is hit or miss, can't really trust it all the time.
I fully disagree. I have Mercedes now, 360 is useless. Anything that goes where cameras meet either disappears, is distorted, seems further or closer than in reality, or shows on two spots same thing. It looks nice but it can’t be used for anything more than what Teslas 3 camera feed shows
I get you, I have a BMW 360 camera system and while the image isn't perfect and still small, I can definitely see where things are even if slightly distorted, the edges are still there, and you can definitely rely on it not to hit anything. Tesla 3D Visualisation meanwhile, misses quite a lot of objects, at 20-30 cm you can't rely on it. https://preview.redd.it/jrk8gehoucce1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=412cbacada16d9520f7591d92ce7b8f7a19d0125
This is mostly empty space around you so the artifacts aren’t visible - they merge images so if there isn’t a lot of features it looks very good. Now post a picture of a car that is getting through multiple cameras
https://preview.redd.it/p9svwx1cycce1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b66b5e803c2ffc58934e93cf580a108808081ca Yea here is one parked. As I said, while distorted, cameras don't lie. Whatever visualization they do on Tesla it simply can't be reliable, tried both, for accuracy I prefer the BMW, for looks I like Tesla.
again, these cars are right next to you, so they are in view of single camera. This of course isn’t distorted much. But when object passes multiple cameras, it is really bad. Like when you are actually maneuvering to parking spot. I will post an example later when I will be in a car
Not really. The marketing material shows what could be a long awaited front camera, that would tie in beautifully with the extra camera capabilites of HW4 and is already available on the Cybertruck. There is also some pretty ambiguous text about better forward facing cameras, but it does not actually clarify anything because all Teslas in the last 4 years have three forward facing cameras. Not to ruin the party, but something similar was visible in the Highland configurator. So we’ll have to wait (at least) 6 weeks to know. First Chinese deliveries are expected come March.
Fully camera based self driving is just asking for people to die.
Hardware 9 =
Here's what he did, great video https://youtu.be/O6IjfIhNgGw?si=Fxkj8gnsCt4rRsKe
Sucks for anyone living where they need a front licence plate.
I've owned an M3 before my current EV, and I occasionally borrow my workplace Tesla. But what on earth makes you lie? Tesla doesn't have a 360 camera.
You were wrong. From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
Nope. From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
From the press release: "A new front camera has been added under the front bumper, allowing drivers to better view the front of the vehicle when parking or performing low-speed maneuvers. Additionally, the camera includes a self-cleaning function, which uses a water jet to keep the lens clean."
Well now I’m jealous
Nice, I guess that settles it. You have a link to the press release?
Very cool. Wonder why they felt the Y needed it but the 3 didn’t. Also amazes me they’ll add this instead of just going back to USS which is superior and cheaper.
Amazing, the press release was NOT avaiable when I wrote the previous reply.
I suspect 3 will get it soon or next model year.
https://x.com/techAU/status/1877559181101903945 This is the only thing I can find
I think both front bumper and rear camera should have sprinkle system.
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