Updated Tesla Model Y Juniper reportedly slated for production in January

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Amazeballs

In China...

It puts Tesla on the clock in the US market though as people delay their purchases because they know something new is coming soon. I think within 6 months, Tesla will have to have launched it in the US market to avoid crazy discounting.

How long did it take model 3 highland to come out in the u.s. after the China release?  Not long right?

I hope they make a six seat version

I really hope they don’t do the center console rear screen. It hurts necks to be looking down that much. A screen on the back of each seat for each kid would work. So many cars already do this

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I think 3-4 months

They should change the standard rims to 18" then

They learned from Highland - Fremont is going to be printing these things simultaneously as Shanghai

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I wonder what pricing will be for the performance trim... I should have bought a Y when I got my 3 last year, but at least now I have an excuse to upgrade. Gotta have those ventilated seats and the rear screen!

I haven't had a single complaint on mine and no reports of neck issues. Looking slightly down is more comfortable. Think about your eye and head position while reading a book.

That would be amazing, with a little center aisle. The article says "Giga Shanghai will deliver a three-row 6-seater Model Y in the fourth quarter of 2025."

I guess it might hurt your neck especially if you're on the taller side, but for the majority of people especially kids this is not an issue at all. After all the "normal" way to read a book has always been looking downwards.

O man looks like 2027 i will upgrade to the new junioer model y. Im goig to assume it will take few months for it to be produced in the US and im going to wait atleast a year to make sure factory has settled down on production like and workers are not in rush. Gotta make sure it is built with quality control

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Q1 EOQ sales will probably be quite aggressive to clear out the existing cars then.

Just a reminder to everyone. This is going to almost certainly be a larger highland and nothing more.

Hence the 0% APR push for delivery by 12/31.

Or as close as they can manage anyway.

Well yes but there's always a big Q4 push anyway.

I would love 18’ rims. More comfort, more range, less curb rash on the rims.

I actually think it's a point for Tesla where they could differentiate between the 3 and the Y. The original reason why the Y looks so identical to the 3, was that it was launched just after 2018 and the production hell with the model 3. It was developed during it too. Tesla needed a vehicle that would easily scale with what they already have, and won't go through the same difficulties - they couldn't get out of one bad year just to potentially enter another one a year later. It would also help Tesla which was burning money back then, since more production of the same products means cheaper production per unit. If I remember correctly, the model Y had 75% of it the same parts as the 3. Now that's a long time now not a reason for Tesla, since they know much more on production, and they turn profit. Now's the potential time to continue with what they actually already did a year ago - divide between the 3 and Y and make them 2 different products, rather than a model 3 and XL model 3 with a hatchback.

What have they been in previous years?

I would disagree simply because they would have released a Y refresh prior to the 3 refresh. Y sells better, it makes way more sense to do that and then refresh the 3. Instead they use the 3 as the testing vehicle for the Y refresh so the Y refresh is smoother.

I test drove the highland and was amazed by the suspension, I’ll take a Y highland version NP

Not sure why you're assuming that. Model Y is also a lot more complicated to transition, as it's produced in 4 factories rather than 2. And the US Model Y is supplied by 2 separate factories. They may intentionally choose to stagger the rollout by region in order to not have production of their most popular model completely stalled.

Putting a screen in the back at all raises cost. They're clearly willing to add cost if the benefit is worth the cost. Not sure two separate screens is worth the cost though. It's also kind of awkward from a design standpoint.

The front and rear design will be different from Highland. We've already seen enough of it to know that. The interior will also be at least slightly different, based on pictures we've seen.

Free super charging for life is the only thing that can make me purchase a current model Y.

They have run incentives on rebates almost every Q4 in Europe. Often to push more cars on specific government incentives. We have tonnes of Model 3s flooding the market in Northern Europe due to crazy incentives from Teala and governments.

But that's not the only factor. The Y was still a relatively new design, it was half the age of the 3, which before highlander was the oldest current design of a vehicle in the lineup

With everything else the same, its not much of a change.

Well of course it's not gonna be massively different. It's one company's sedan and SUV. It's normal that they'd share a lot of things.

So we can pretty much count on it being ready in 2026. What

Any rumors of it having steer by wire? After buying a cybertruck, we’re not upgrading my wife’s model 3 until they have a steer by wire option. It’s amazing.

That’s going to be an improvement on an incredibly popular car. The main problems are suspension/ride quality and road noise. Fixing that is huge.

Finally

I just bought one and couldn’t disagree more. I looked at a used 2023 model with 15k miles and they still wanted 35k.

Doubtful. I’m guessing that would come in the next upgrade cycle. So first to S/X and later to 3/Y. Probably Roadster will have it from the beginning, whenever that finally comes

Wondering though if the new administration threatening to remove EV credits will make someone buy ASAP.

seems like everytime the stock dips a little a new story comes out ---

This is making me debating getting the refreshed model 3 vs the y. I’m torn because I’d rather wait for the Junyper but I think that EV credit is gonna go away day 1.

Can’t say how I know but I’m gonna say production starts January 13th in the US

No rumors at all, so not until the next generation at the earliest

Make sure you buy one made in Texas

Yup that’s why I’m not buying any Tesla until i see some inventory clearing discounts

So probably dumb question but this won’t have air suspension, right?

Given that the Highland is a huge leap compared to the earlier Model 3 that's a pretty big 'nothing more'.

I think the rear screen just needs improvement, like if it had a telescopic lifting mechanism, even as a third party accessory, it would be much better. Wouldn't even need to lift too much

Looks like a Hyundai sonata lmao

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Which is perfect. The Highland refresh is fantastic, but some people just want that in a Y (ie. with a bit more interior room and ground clearance). I have the Highland and debating trading it in for a Juniper. Love the Model 3 but getting in and out is a bit annoying as I’m getting older, and it’s a very low car even for a sedan. I’m kind of secretly hoping they put something a little extra in the Y though to distinguish it. Maybe a power outlet/V2L or something.

Kids don’t care though. And it’s mainly for kids. And Uber passengers.

Cannot wait

That front grille is cosmetic surgery gone wrong

I am one of those waiting for the updated model. But I will also wait another 6 months so I can avoid those silly manufacturing issues.

No thanks. Won’t be giving money to a despot.

Or free FSD would be nice too

Welp, already got current gen for 0 APR

They got rid of the 0 apr? I checked the site the other day and don’t see it

It was order by 12/15 and take delivery by 12/31.

Bummer!

> a larger highland and nothing more You are saying that as if it's a bad thing or just a plain nothing-burger, when the highland refresh on the Model 3 was substantial...

No, i think the highland is a great refresh. But it’s not uncommon here for people to think the new MY will have everything under the sun. We know what it will have, just look at highland.

I have a 23 MYP, and I really hate the suspension and battery range, but everything else is on point. Wondering how this one will compare and improve in this areas

Did photos of the refresh finally leak?

Not without heavy camo

Cant believe people are still buying new model Ys when we knew this was coming

Purchased my MYP in October 2023, originally i was gonna wait but my Accord was experiencing issues. The suspension is fine for me, could be softer but handles good. If the tax credit is gone, i still expect this to sell well.

And every time someone said this previously they were down voted to hell lol

Looks like a crossover w/ lucid

It's different this quarter. Tesla sales were down year over year at the end of the 3rd quarter for the first time in its history. Now they had to do all kinds of incentives like 3 months free FSD and supercharging in addition to the 7500 tax credit and 0% apr to sell 515k units in Q4 just to get 1.8M sales and match last year's numbers. It's troublesome when overall EVs sales are growing but Tesla is fighting to just match last year sales.

Gee I wonder why

Timing is everything.

I'd bet that prices will drop, since presumably they'll lose sales to some degree. They're charging the price that sells every car they can make and not one less, and they'll change price to maintain that

Besides the things that are different, everything else will be the same.

I didn’t buy a brand new y last month to have the coolest latest shiniest thing. I bought it because with 0% Apr and plenty of discounts made it fairly cheap for what was being offered. I bought it for the price, and cost savings. Other than tinting my front windows to match the rear I will never add any upgrades to it or accessorize it. It’s my car to get me to and from work mostly and take the kids to school and activities. In our family this is our “cheap” every day car. So I think it depends on what they are looking for. I literally bought this Y for the incentives BECAUSE I knew the juniper was coming out.

Let's see how 1/4 turns out first

I used to drive corvettes as my car of choice. MYP is smooooth. 😂

You can add the rear screen, but agree with the ventilated seats

True I really am just excited for an excuse to swap out a standard range 3 for a performance Y. Gotta have that completely unnecessary torque.

I have a MYP but already acclimated and want a plaid now lol

Hedonic treadmill lolol

Have you considered an aftermarket suspension upgrade?

by then we should have confirmed features of the new model and decide if they are worth waiting for.

I would trade my ‘23 hw3 MXP for a Juniper Y performance most likely. Hope they release it with AI5 to future proof for fsd. Being in the abandonware category sucks.

Yup, same reason I bought a M3 in December of 2023. Got an inventory M3 that was discounted about $6,000, plus the $7,500 tax credit. Never been happier with a car purchase.

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A car that hasn't been refreshed just isn't exciting when there's new ones out there with better features

Any other possible reasons affecting demand?

You can already do that right now. The highland shocks fit on the current model y. And you get 90% of the comfort of the highland.

Many more upgrades than just shocks

better FSD though ? I got locked out for a week so I'm scared to live without it tbh

Trying to manage my expectations with all the rumours but after seeing the leak from earlier this year with the indirect light bar on the back to then seeing the cybercab reveal which also had an indirect light bar, my gut tells me Tesla might be diverging from the model 3 design language with this Y refresh and bringing it more in line with the ‘cyber’ design language of the truck and the cab with front and rear light bars. I would personally love this but who knows - we’ll soon find out :)

Competition, not everyone cares about owners of the company.

Most likely will have similar upgrades to M3 Highland

Despot? You don’t know any specs or how it’ll look like.

What? It’ll definitely be ready in 2025.

I’d even buy one if they let me TRANSFER my FUSC.

I bit the bullet and collected my Model Y yesterday. While I was looking for the basic Long Range RWD there were none in any of the tesla's including San Diego that I could take a hand over before 31st. They showed me deliveries scheduled for Jan 4th, Jan 9th, Feb 15th etc. I walked out with a Performance model ( demo with 1000 miles) at a discounted price of $45270 including title, registration and destination fees. My friend who got the exact same model 2 years ago paid $72K and was raving about the deal I got. I myself paid $62K in 2018 for my M3. Guess time will tell if I made a good choice !

Thanks to Elon man child

Model Y is the most popular model, of course its going to have more.

No it's not. There are people that have already replaced the shocks and it gives similar ride.

I could quite easily say: Model Y is the most popular model, of course they will keep costs down by feature cutting

Ding ding There is probably a way he could deploy his talents in the governance realm without being incredibly annoying He didn’t

We already know it has a rear LED bar which is something new. And there is a bumper camera on the manufacturer cars but might just be for testing. Hopefully we get all the details soon - I'm curious to see what they do.

I think that's likely, but the highland M3 refresh was supposed to have a bumper camera that never shipped.

I hate the front of the current model Y so this is a huge upgrade to me looks wise

I came from 16 years of driving 2 door Jeeps. The ride is awesome.

It may completely unnecessary, but I never get tired of that acceleration.

Nobody cares about your hate for Elon tbh

I don't hate him, I invested in Tesla in 2013 and I support the mission. What I don't support is his constant shit talk that, paired with his overt political activity, fuels the anti-Elon sentiment that is everywhere. It's not hate, it's exasperation. Similarly I don't hate you, but you are presumptuous and so far not at all interesting

[Tesla Juniper](https://youtu.be/2aWGMabMSo8?si=ud3YCaMk16QM8BSL)

Any idea when we can do pre booking if juniper ?