Tesla 'Full Self-Driving' drives through railroad crossing barriers in viral video

It’s AI working there, there wasn’t a train coming so it crossed safety. Trust me guys it was working as expected 😉

Impossible, we were told it was a solved problem nearly a decade ago and I’ve heard there is/was one whole unmanned taxi in Austin doing 800,000 miles a day Jesus, if they’re going to fake the news, fake it about stuff super-genius hasn’t perfected like wing suits for pigs or brain chips for potatoes

Probably where Elon's hubris for not using Lidar and radar is coming into full view.

Stock up 15%

Didn‘t Tesla say that they solved the problem with the cameras not identifying orange and red color in sunny settings a year ago? And that is a huge malfunction since the crossing barriers were in motion with blinking warning signs.

Robotaxi does not cross train tracks unsupervised. This is also HW3 whereas HW4 does stop for train barriers Also waymo did not cross train tracks until this year and they still have problems

Teslas have at least always kept one thing consistent: trash quality, garbage software and shittier materials. Comes standard in every Tesla.

Yeah. That’s just Elon bias because he hates trains.

Their coding was probably: IF train =0; PASS100%. Written in excel.

There's going to be fleets of Tesla powered taxis working for you while you sleep

It's a feature not a bug. The Tesla saved a couple minutes of commute time so well done Elon. /s

This will be totally fixed in the next release. Six weeks maybe, nine weeks definitely.

Also that (faked) youtube video from 2016 showing level 4 around their Cal factory.

It seems to me, the problem is not Elon's infantile reckless bullshitting, calling half baked solutions "autopilot" and "full self driving", the problem is that enough people keep believing him when he comes out with the next hyperbolic promise to try to ramp up sales and the stock price.

When will Elon change his tune and put some real sensors on his cars?

Was there a train is sight? What's the big deal then...

Cool nothing like mopping up the residue of a hobo orgy first thing in the morning while I have my coffee

I don't know US timings, but our design time in Australia is 5 seconds from booms horizontal to train arriving at the crossing. That's assuming the booms have operated correctly and the train is not speeding. 5 seconds might seem like a lot, but when it's all that's between you and being hit by a 2000 tonne train,

That's what you call a soup kitchen. There's a note left in the back... Thanks for the F shack, signed Dirty Mike and the boys.

(this is Australian timings, I don't know US) We start the lights and bells, 7 seconds later the booms start lowering, 13 seconds later the booms reach horizontal, 5 seconds later a train passes the edge of the crossing. If your system can't detect that, it's pretty simple, your system can not be allowed to enter a trains right of way. We are not going to upgrade our railway crossings to meet a standard automotive companies dream up. Hell, even when there are traffic lights nearby, we send a warning signal to their controller, and if it doesn't set the traffic lights to red quick enough, we override them.

Full Self Dying

This is a HW3 car which still uses v12 software. Should at least be mentioned somewhere.

I have FSD and I let it get away with some shitty driving occasionally as long as I'm not impeding anyone... I certainly wouldn't have let it get even half as close as it did past that white line before I hit the brakes. That said, you can't hit the brakes in a Robotaxi so this is a huge oversight for sure. Edit: I think y’all misunderstood. I correct the car, in the middle of it doing something dumb/inconvenient so it can learn once the data is sent back to Tesla. I don’t even let it get near as bad with others near me on the road. Also, yes Elon bad.

FSD mistake or not, what was the guy in the driver’s seat doing while the car was driving? Taking a nap? How didn’t he have more than enough time to stop the car on his own? Clearly not even paying attention.

A train that may take a kilometer or 2 to stop.

Clearly you haven’t been to a Tesla sub before

We people do to. So why not FSD

BuT WaYmO IsNt PeRfEcT EiThEr. Wahhhhhhhhwahhhwahhh. Why are you all so mean to Elon?! So unfair. And that poor Robotaxi.

When is “Full Self Driving” not “Full Self Driving”?

Maybe you do…

FSD is basically like having a toddler sit in your lap and steer. He can basically do it…but you have to watch him like a hawk with lightning reflexes or he might instantly kill both of you. So why not put the toddler in the back seat and drive the car yourself? It doesn’t require anywhere near the attention or reflexes.

lol. Sounds like it, but I used to drive a Model 3.

Hahahahhaha

lol, you just woke up after five years?

Yeah, it was called “partial self driving” back then.

In V++

No, just an older version on older hardware

Wait, really? I thought full was the thing with the latest version.

Yeah, it was sarcasm, but it’s true. Way too many people trust it far too much.

There's definitely a fraudulent confirmation bias effect going on. Elon does not actually have that many rabid followers. He has a handful, and also a whole bunch of bots on the social media platform *that he owns*. He is actively masquerading as a popular person, but he's actually just 1 dork with a lot of phones and AI. There has got to be a US Attorney wiling to bring a layup of a stock manipulation case based on how he uses Twitter.

Appears FSD is still Faux Self Driving. But another random person said he drove across the country and didn't touch the wheel. Someone is lying. I'm betting it's the one without video proof.

I always wondered why his obvious stock manipulation always goes unpunished.

I'm not sure lidar works reliably in this case, it's a line sensor that works on objects at the level it's aiming at. So it would probably miss the crossing arms. But the crossing arms should have been detected by the cameras. It probably was recognized and it just ignored them. on edit: I'm not sure about radar though. Probably would at least cause a signal that a reasonable algorithm would decide shouldn't be ignored.

Someone just the other day insisting he is a brilliant engineer...lol Multiply the idiot by thousands, and you have his fan base

So, you're intentionally training it to misbehave.

I'd be shocked if Tesla FSD doesn't invent new science by the end of next year.

Seeing this made me wonder. Is the driver: A) a complete moron who doesn't know where the brake is located? or B) someone with enough money, who's willing to bang up his car just to prove a point? Inquiring mind must know.

Please change your behavior, or stay off the roads. You're normalizing deviance. Not just in your car's software, but in yourself. Just like FSD makes mistakes, you make mistakes too. And the more you normalize deviance, the more you will make them.

You need actual evidence in court. And if a lawyer managed to get a subpoena for information, Musk would just refuse to hand it over. Probably illegally delete it, then just pay a fine or pay somebody to get the lawyer and judge disbarred.

When it’s not.

>Robotaxi does not cross train tracks unsupervised. Wow, that's some shitty FSD then. >This is also HW3 whereas HW4 does stop for train barriers Didn't Elmo all autonomous driving a solved about a decade ago? What HW version did the cars have then? What version will they be on when they finally give it up? Obviously, they won't give up because they can't make it work, but because they're not a car company! > Also waymo did not cross train tracks until this year and they still have problems Ahh yes, when you can't defend your point, resort to whataboutism!

> We people do to. So why not FSD Because Elmos been claiming FSD will be better than human drivers, so why not now?

> This is a HW3 car which still uses v12 software. What version of hardware where they on when Elmo called it a solved problem? That was about a decade ago. What version will they be on when they finally give it up? You know, cause they're not a car company?

C) An idiot who tells everyone that they use FSD hundreds of miles a week without a single problem (because they ride with their eyes closed...)

> When will Elon change his tune and put some real sensors on his cars? He'll never admit he's wrong on anything substantive. Don't worry, they're not a car company any more, so soon they'll simply stop making cars, and totally not because their markets have dried up.

> When is “Full Self Driving” not “Full Self Driving”? Always.

They had better add this scenario to its training…

I wouldn’t get in one

What‘s the problem? It is „Full Self-Driving“, right? It doesn‘t claim to be „Full Self-Stopping“. This feature comes with a payable SW upgrade.

Great analogy.

Toonces the driving cat is safer.

Doesn’t Elmo say that accidents are data? Once a few cars get hit by trains they will have the data to fix this.

Feature complete, baby

I just got banned over on the actual Teslalounge because they don’t want to discuss Elon’s emails with Jeffrey Epstein….

Damn, they were really willing to end it all, huh Is this a cry for help?😂🤣

Could we please get potato chips in our brains instead?

Wait you hear about It’s HW3 FSD 12.xx These Tesla fanboys shit on their fellow Tesla owners and laugh at them for having older hardware/outdated software versions that should work with FULL SELF DRIVING

It’s SUPERVISED. so it’s the driver’s fault!

It’s ok. The mods of that sub does not want any Elon news on that sub Reddit and its instant perm ban They just gonna stay in their bubble that Elon does not own and control the Tesla brand

Wait till you learn that HW4 is not enough for FSD. Too bad for those sucker on HW3 right?

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They were discussing sightings of the cybercab, all I asked was, "what is going to happen first, fully autonomous cyber cabs or Elon getting arrested for child rape" It is a legit question.

Come on you must have heard of people who have done this. Why wouldn’t assume AI would be any better than a person.

At least it didn’t drive through them and stop while it waited on the next train? At some point, someone should probably put the ban hammer on Tesla self-driving until they PROVE they are safe. Just a crazy thought, I know, but all that deregulation only seems to help the 1% in this economy while the rest of us are getting ran over by Teslas.

Why wouldn’t I assume a person would be a better driver than an AI? Just how *bad* of a driver are you admitting to be?