Tesla's Robotaxi project in Austin is much smaller than Musk claims

Between **1 and 5 cars**, all with human drivers. The main reason they're not using more cars than that is to minimize the number of crashes (they're already at 9 crashes since June, despite each car having a human safety driver that catches 95% of critical issues). We can draw two conclusions here: * The number of miles driven by the Austin fleet as reported by Tesla is a gross exaggeration. * This is not a "pilot" being run for testing purposes. **It's all purely for show**. There's nothing you can learn with 1-5 cars with (whitelisted) passengers that you couldn't learn from private testing. This is all a dummy show designed to dupe Tesla investors. Potemkin robotaxis.

Shocker that Elmo is making grandiose claims that are not even remotely based in reality, the news media will repeat and amplify, there will be no consequences, and TSLA will likely go up 7% on this news.

I bet that’s not the only thing that is smaller than he claims…

So Tesla branded Pig Butchering…

It also doesn’t work, due to Elmo’s decisions.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that most things for which fElon claims a size are smaller than what he says.

I guess it’s legal as long as you have lotsa money.

My only qualm with what you said is that you called TSLA shareholders “investors”.  They’re sheep who only see the stonk price going up, and think they have a sure thing because they know absolutely nothing about fundamentals of investing.

His foreplay involves NDAs and sample tracking numbers.

Not the only thing thats smaller than he claims

Tesla is today’s Enron or Theranos.

So they can boast a small number of incidents compared to the competitors and the stock will soar +100%

They are gamblers playint the Greater Fool Game just waiting around to see who blinks first.

This shit makes those people look like pickpockets.

>Between 1 and 5 cars, all with human drivers. That makes sense. From a PR perspective, there is no real difference between 5 non-robotaxi Robotaxis and 30 non-robotaxi Robotaxis. It is the same fraud, just cheaper and simpler to run.

Totally agree. Yet didn’t he promise 500 by end of year? Also half the country being served by end of year but who’s counting

Also 1 million Robotaxis on the road by the end of 2020.

Tesla has a reputation for overblowing things. That being said, we should take sources like electrek and Teslarati with a huge grain of salt. The former has a very strong anti Tesla bias and the latter has a very strong pro Tesla bias. I wish mods would ban these sites. A 19 year old student's app isn't a peer reviewed paper or top tier investigative journalism. Not saying he's wrong, it's just not trustworthy without additional vetting.

I put the people doing that in the same bucket as anyone willing to short TSLA. They may get lucky, but they probably won’t.

To be fair, if you objectively observe and look at what Elon Musk and Tesla claim vs. do and you don’t have a negative bias towards them, then you don’t have the capability to reason and your opinion is actually not based in reality and must be discounted.

I won't even attempt to predict the tipping point that will cause TSLA's inevitable implosion.

That means the stock is going to go much higher than its actual value 😂

Like Musk’s deformed penis, the Austin “robotaxi” is all pump and no substance

So’s his virility. Why on earth would anyone take anything that clown says seriously?

This guy had the audacity to come out and say they didn't have any impact from power issue in SF. There are about 10 robotaxis in SF. Not really 10 but an insignificant number compared to waymo. What a joke he is. I don't blame anyone except us. We created a monster. We provided the mean and Elon played the game and won. All his business have the gov as the main client. Think about this next time he mentions DOGE.

And you bought yourself the opportunity to fire everyone who should be investigating your crimes.

I don’t think so. I know some in person. They ACTUALLY BELIEVE Musk is “the man”. I shit you not.

Are they also flat earthers?

Unfortunately, no.

They were also manually driven, so of course they didn't have problems with the power outage. One person reported their robotaxi had an issue with the first disabled traffic light and was driven manually the rest of the ride. Furthermore, of the 10 or whatever in SF, most wouldn't have even been in the areas affected by the outage, whereas Waymo probably had dozens if not hundreds of cars in thos eareas.

If it is deformed, he wouldn't have 12 kids.

The difference is less margin for error. It only takes one. Just like it did. For people to go gaga all over again.

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Enron Musk at it again.

The most awful thing is the grift could continue for decades. There’s literally no bad news for the tesler fans - everything is just another pump at this point

The stock is now detached from Musk and the company. It's turned into tulipmania. People are buying it like they do crypto, purely a speculative instrument. Reminds of of the pyramid parties of the 70s. A lot of people made a lot of money, until they didn't!

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My pearls, he’s a fraud?!

And Robots And Artificial Insertion

He will divert attention to the nearby Boring Hole

But he gets away with it again. The dishonesty should cause immediate shame and everyone should know and laugh at him. But other than the occasional true article everyone else just goes along with the lies, again and again.

Going to? That happened quite a few years ago.

> I don't doubt that Tesla will eventually figure FSD & robotaxi's. I do doubt that. The only way that Tesla will ever figure out FSD and Robotaxis is if Waymo or Baidu agree to sell them the technology.

You should educate yourself on AI models. And what sensors do

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There are zero robotaxis in SF. There are 10 Teslas driven by Tesla employees à la a micro-Uber...

I’d love to a see a similar analysis of their SF operation. Just like Austin, reports are saying that service is constantly unavailable.

Musk is a showman! A carnival barker! A hoax!

Key Promises & Reality Check (2025): Early 2025: Musk claimed over 1 million robotaxis would be on the road in 2025. Mid-2025 (June): A small pilot with about 10 vehicles launched in Austin, with promises of rapid scaling. Late 2025 (Nov/Dec): Announcements mentioned a goal of 1,500 in key cities like Austin and Bay Area, but actual fleets remained small (around 30-60 in Austin), with a significant shortfall from targets. Reality: The Austin fleet grew slowly, still requiring human safety monitors, despite Musk's claims of imminent driverless operation. The Pattern: Musk has a history of overpromising, with robotaxi targets repeatedly missed, from 2020 to 2024, and again for 2025, with current numbers far below past pronouncements, though development continues. *-via Gemini*. So in layman's terms, Musk is a pathological liar and Tesla's only real product is the stock itself.

yup, the current $1.52T market cap requires FSD to be just hard enough that only Elon's generational genius can solve it this decade, but no harder.

There's a few layers of this going on I think. When it comes to the app download and service accepting riders it just effectively doesn't exist and was an announcement largely for PR and stock price reasons to claim a major milestone was hit and appear to be closer to launching a wider service area than the company really is. As to mileage and testing they're likely still racking up miles and doing testing, it's just with passengerless service or employees who are under strict NDAs. Obviously things get even more ridiculous when you look at their human driven ride share service in San Francisco. They're still way behind in terms of progress and deliverable product and just padding stats to make the service look way more mature and competitive than it actually is at this point. Pretty much everything is being done for the sole purpose of generating hype amongst their shareholders and keeping the ridiculous valuation the company currently has intact. Elon Musk's super power isn't his intelligence or leadership ability, it's his magically ability to continuously engage in fraud for the past decade and some how avoid any substantial penalty or real prosecution.

> Waymo has basically figured it out. Waymo is a long way from driving through a construction zone while snow is falling.

>The point is optics That is all the cult cares about, optics.

Checking and following up on statements is a forgotten art, apparently. Post nonsense, get clicks, job done.

I think he counts the san francisco 'taxis on fsd' as robotaxis for that count.

> If it is deformed, he wouldn't have 12 kids. Regardless of whether or not you believe the deformed rumor, what is widely disseminated and believed is that many (most?) of the kids were conceived via IVF. One of his daughters has gone public with that info.

>You should educate yourself on what words mean. Right back at you. >Did I say tesla will do it with its current hardware? No, I didn't. Tesla is taking an approach that will invalidate all of their work if they eventually switch to using appropriate sensors. > Waymo has basically figured it out. Yes, using appropriate equipment. >Ya'll are in denial if you don't think everyone else will get there eventually too. Of course someone will, but it's a fundamentally impossible problem with a couple of low res cameras. Weather alone will ensure that. >There will probably be a working open source version in 10-15 years. Lol, no. Way before that will happen the government will need to crack down on what's allowed on the roads, to deal with the millions of lawsuits, if for no other reason. Eventually, NHTSA will have certification testing to validate claims by manufacturers.

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"Bad person so bodyshaming ok".

He has no shame… Somebody has to do it for him

The way Tesla is being run, I genuinely believe they will never figure it out. As far as I can tell Elon has no interest in Tesla beyond a platform for vaporware. They built a very popular EV, which is laudable. Everything since the model Y has been downright embarrassing. I think Elon is on drugs, had a psychotic break, and is surrounded by yes men who benefit from his bullshit. Everything to do with Robotaxis is entirely jazz hands. FSD can be both impressive and also incredibly dangerous. Nothing they’ve done has shown they’re anywhere close to fixing the incredibly dangerous part of the system.

Except all you are doing is shaming others who have nothing to do with him. It's not like Elmo is reading this sub.

Ok. You have a nice day.

This is a feature of capitalism. Profits over everything

> I just said they will eventually figure it out. yeah but its kinda redundent when the expectation all vehicles will end up with this tech and their will be plenty of suppliers or companies they could buy to bring it in house. I don't think their current approach will work but of course they could just buy or license a working system.