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Tesla engaged in deceptive marketing for Autopilot and Full Self-Driving, judge rules

praguer56 | 2025-12-17 03:00 | 497 views

Comments (38)
fuckswithboats 2025-12-17 03:08

I remember when Elon said that my car would be a Robotaxi by the end of the year. Six years ago. Now it doesn’t even have hardware to support it

ComicsEtAl 2025-12-17 03:13

I *also* ruled that, if anyone cares.

Actual__Wizard 2025-12-17 03:18

Aww man, they can't just lie to people?

admin_default 2025-12-17 03:19

And Tesla investors responded by pumping the stock to a new all-time high. Total clown company making clown cars.

Neceon 2025-12-17 03:22

Oh, dont worry, there wont be any actual consequences for lying. /s

Actual__Wizard 2025-12-17 03:26

Well, it sounds like at worst they won't be able to sell Tesla's in California for 30 days. Which, let's be serious, we all know that it's some kind of massive financial fraud anyways, so I don't think that actually matters. The stock will probably shoot up on this news.

RevolutionCrazy7045 2025-12-17 03:29

Still confused on the significance of the word "Full" in FSD 🤷🏻‍♂️ . I get it should be supervised, but that's like me saying 100% no bullshit I can dunk, just need a ladder tho.

ScoobyGDSTi 2025-12-17 03:29

Nazi clown cars, thank you.

CivilWay1444 2025-12-17 03:30

I'm shocked. Leon wouldn't knowingly do something like that.

Albin4president2028 2025-12-17 03:36

I ruled that about.. uhmm a decade ago?

GhostofBreadDragons 2025-12-17 03:41

Hit record highs today on the concept of a plan to remove supervision drivers in their 11 car fleet of robotaxis.

Poozipper 2025-12-17 03:45

No shit?!

daveo18 2025-12-17 03:51

Tesla is ADAS level 2. As long as the marketing aligns with that they won’t have an issue. But meanwhile in Austin there’s a bunch of pumpers claiming Tesla has “solved” FSD

SopaDeKaiba 2025-12-17 04:01

>Tesla refuted these claims by saying its marketing was protected speech. That's almost exactly Tesla's argument.

CR8VJUC 2025-12-17 04:15

Paid $10k for *Fool* Self Driving for my ‘21 MYP. I never use it. I’m the fool for believing it.

SuckThisRedditAdmins 2025-12-17 04:22

Come on now, it was a STEAL at only $10k! Stealing from you, but still...

weaz-am-i 2025-12-17 05:39

You should be fucking more with boats instead of a tesla.

JUGGER_DEATH 2025-12-17 07:18

It makes me furious when they try to defend themselves by saying "no customer has complained" when they are putting everyone in traffic at risk by misrepresenting the capabilities of their technology to its users, causing them to be dangerous to other people.

runthepoint1 2025-12-17 07:30

As a new Tesla owner, I can say in the last 5 months it has gone from awful to very very close to fully automated, with most trips in-fact with zero intervention already. I’m impressed with the progress, but I feel awful for those who are on older hardware including the friends who recommended Tesla to us.

runthepoint1 2025-12-17 07:31

FSD means Fully Supervised Driving

justthegrimm 2025-12-17 08:01

No shit, muskrat is still doing it today.

[deleted] 2025-12-17 08:19

Germany said that in uhhhhh 2020....!!! https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/tesla-autopilot-self-driving-false-advertising-germany.html Congratulations. 5 years behind Germany, which is known for slow moving regulations (though it wasn't advertised here since 2016 either so.....

[deleted] 2025-12-17 08:22

It being a "taxi service is just the financial aspect of the 2016 fraud. 10 year anniversary!

[deleted] 2025-12-17 08:24

They said it is CORPORATE PUFFERY and NO REASONABLE INVESTOR WOULD BELIEVE IT. The lawyers during the last time this fraud came up They didn't even try to argue they are close to solving FSD

RevolutionCrazy7045 2025-12-17 08:58

so .. pay a premium to supervise a student driver to drive you to your destination -- but be ready to take over in the nick of time when necessary 😂

SolutionWarm6576 2025-12-17 10:35

Bullish!!!

hippotango 2025-12-17 11:36

The lawyers is this case argued that "Full Self Driving" doesn't mean the car is fully self driving. That was literal argument.

EczachlyLB 2025-12-17 11:46

ELON = 🤡

Visual-Advantage-834 2025-12-17 12:05

As always - it's perfect until it's not.

[deleted] 2025-12-17 12:14

Damn, 10k could buy you a whole other car in reasonable shape.

analyticaljoe 2025-12-17 13:01

I completely agree. It has absolutely improved from "not good enough to do email while it drives you" to "not good enough to do email while it drives you." Which, by the way, accurately describes the entire time of my ownership of FSD from 2017 through until today. Which ... is why this ruling was like it was.

RevolutionCrazy7045 2025-12-17 15:05

at least you realized sooner rather than never.

runthepoint1 2025-12-17 17:31

Well I think of it like buying an iPhone, there’s alway a new one dropping, it’s best to wait for a big upgrade

willismthomp 2025-12-17 19:41

I think it’s just called fraud at this point

praguer56 2025-12-17 20:34

This is just California. I wonder when we'll see nation-wide TV commercials by Morgan and Morgan!

practicaloppossum 2025-12-18 00:43

But not clown shoe cars. That's a BMW thing.

JC1949 2025-12-18 03:26

We have two Teslas, and we love them. But Autopilot has never worked as promised, and likely never will. It is a "long con" as one of my criminal friends once described such behaviour.

BankBackground2496 2025-12-18 11:31

Would you let random people have a ride in your car for $200/month? Car will need cleaning, stuff will go missing.

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