Driver Dies After Tesla Crashes and Bursts into Flames

The Tesla, an unknown model, crashed at an intersection near the edge of a quiet subdivision outside Phoenix last Tuesday, local station Fox10 reported. The driver, the only person inside the car, died at the scene. The fire required a hazmat crew to help put out the flames, caused by a damaged lithium battery in the throes of a fiery runaway thermal reaction, which are notoriously tough to extinguish by typical means.

There have been dozens of these around the world, elmo doing his best to keep it quiet

Stock up 18 dollars this morning. Because he’s going to build a factory that puts out more semiconductor chips than everybody in the world combined so 2040ish

It’s a shame r/RealTesla is mostly just antiTesla. The other Tesla subs are so clearly censored and fanboys, I was hoping this would be a mostly balanced sub. I like a lot about Tesla, but their CEO is a lunatic, and FSD will be just around the corner for another decade probably.

wish this entire company died tbh it's like ai boomer slop in car form

Every Tesla owner is basically playing Russian roulette every time they get into their car.

Up 20 usd today. Tesla death traps=Bullish!!!

There's some decently objective stuff here from time to time but it has been labeled as a troll sub by a lot of the main subs. Ironically those sub's bots auto-ban you for posting *anything* here, which is a wild stance to take, but not unique to Tesla subs in general. I'm banned in a few of those as well as Nintendo subs because I dare have discussions in places they've black listed. I wouldn't say I'm generally anti Tesla, but I've grown pretty anti Elon in the last few years. I do think the emergency exit hatches to get out of the vehicles are not obvious enough to most people unfamiliar with the brand, which is especially problematic for young children and the elderly. I read the article and it basically a generic article about a automobile death.. Doesn't even say the model of the car or what caused the accident (questions whether it was driver error or Tesla's self driving software). It then goes on to say what struggles Tesla has financially. If we are being objective, there isn't much to this in terms of the content of the article itself. It's tragic someone died but car crash's happen. Unless the vehicles software or hardware was at fault, a person dying in a Tesla isn't any more or less remarkable than any other vehicle death, of which there is one *every fifteen minutes* in the US. We've somehow normalized this reality in our minds and don't think of it, yet every time a real death pops up we reshare an article about it as "evidence" Tesla's the devil. A whole lot of actual reasons to be critical of Tesla and its CEO, posting nothingburgers is an odd choice.

(Another Fucking Tesla) Driver Dies (In A Horrifying Hellfire Inferno) After (Another Fucking) Tesla Crashes and Bursts into Flames

Tesla would not share any information to the police in case it's FSD related.

It used to be a lot more balanced. We had some TSLA bulls in here. But guess what? - Posting on this sub will get you kicked off the island with the other subs...so the predictable result is the only people on this sub are those of us who really don't give a shit about being a member of any other TSLA related sub.

At this point, this is more of a "dog bites man" type of story.

This could never happen with a gasoline or diesel powered vehicle. Before EVs I'd never even heard of a car fire... Edit: I'm no fanboy. I own a Model 3 but hate Elon. The car is just OK in my opinion. I am however an engineer in the automotive industry and work a lot with the NHTSA. And their statistics say there are 30 EV vehicle fires per 100k vehicles sold and 1,530 ICE fires per 100k vehicles sold. Those are facts.

Again.

At least those vehicles would have the high tech, and proven tech, of a mechanical door latch you could simply pull a lever and step out of the car instead of dying by being burnt to a crisp because your Tesla lost power and you can't open the door. Simple things like opening a car door were perfected 100 years ago. Now? You get to roast in your Tesla.

Good thing they never had to worry about getting oil changes.

So I guess we should be modeling it's future based on another car that would burst into flames, like the Ford Pinto?

Tesla is up +6% today. Seems it's good news for Tesla.

Yea. News like this means the stock will jump at least 4%.

So basically, an average day?

Next you’ll be telling me how many fatal ICE fires there were between the last Tesla fire and this one…

Certainly not in modern times. In the 70's the Ford Pinto had a design flaw causing explosions via rear impacts. 27 confirmed, potentially hundreds more unconfirmed deaths resulting. Tesla has easily tripled these fire death numbers, from much less severe accidents, and in some cases no accident at all! Just spontaneous combustion. My grievance is with the absolute joke of any active/passive door safety systems to allow for easy exit. In many cases the occupants simple could not get the door open to escape, nor could external people.

Musk fanboys: “He should have read the manual!”

The typical ICE car fire is a 20 year old beater burning along side of the road with the driver/passengers standing forlornly as they watch it. Fire truck shows up and puts it out. Compare that to the typical Tesla fire. Newer vehicle, dead people in the car and a helpless fire crew.

Sounds awful but just wait until the headlines about accidents with Elon’s sexbots.

Thermal runaway for lithium sounds similar to nuclear. Just without the radiation. EVs need better battery tech.

Google: “Studies consistently show that gasoline-powered vehicles have a significantly higher fire incidence rate than electric vehicles, with some analyses suggesting they are 60 times more likely to catch fire per 100,000 vehicles sold. “ This article is a big nothing burger trying to stoke fear of EV’s.

You know Teslas have mechanical door latches right?

I just saw a new ICE Hyundai burning on the side of I94 over the weekend. The NHTSA says there are 30 EV vehicle fires per 100k vehicles sold and 1,530 ICE fires per 100k vehicles sold. But why listen to facts when they don't fit your narrative?

And tomorrow the stock will go up. Ponzi scheme of a nazi.

Doge was not so uneffictive. They made this.

Another entry for https://www.tesladeaths.com/

More training data for FSD.

If it requires explanation before you ride, it's not safe.

It's not about the likelihood of vehicles catching fire, it's that teslas rely on electronic locks, which can fail when power is lost, and that they have a massive battery that burns differently than gasoline. Normally if you get in a small wreck you can get out of your car.

And other fanboys reply: People die in ICE cars too.

aw jeez, again?

Look at the edit of my original post

Lmao, ICE cars literally drive using very flammable liquids that are used to make explosions to move the vehicle.

Here is a fact for you. It is much more difficult to ship an EV than it is to ship an ICE car. And the reason is fire hazards. The risks are so well understood, and demonstrated, that shipping companies are starting to simply ban them. Here is from Dr. Google: “ Overview Maritime Companies Now Refusing To Ship EVs, Citing Fire ... Several shipping companies are refusing to transport electric vehicles (EVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) due to the heightened fire risk associated with their lithium-ion batteries. Companies like Matson Navigation Company and Alaska Marine Lines (AML) have implemented bans, citing that conventional fire suppression systems are ineffective against EV battery fires, which can be intensely hot and difficult to extinguish. These bans follow high-profile incidents of fires on cargo ships that have led to the loss of vessels and cargo” But why listen to facts when they don’t fit your narrative?

I think the word "never" is just triggering many OCD folks...like myself. You are certainly correct about the statistics, but ICE fires do happen, but almost always with no fatality or even bodily harm.

Tesla will surely be the biggest chip manufacturer in the world, in fact Musk know more about chip manufacturing than anyone else  /s

Yea, hidden. Just what I want to have to find during a fire.

It was sarcasm. Is there no critical thinking?

The battery vs gasoline isn’t really a big change, it’s really just the electronic only interior release that’s the big problem here. Gas or electric, either way it’s a death trap if you can’t get out in a fire.

You won't make any progress trying to be reasonable with the people here. This seems to be just as much an anti-EV sub as it is anti-Tesla.

It was so much better back then, now it feels like theres a much higher proportion of the I hate the very concept of EVs on principle people as well.

It's much more difficult to ship an ICE vehicle filled with gasoline (you can't - there is no fuel in vehicles on a cargo ship) than an EV. That's why.

Maybe doors that are easy to unlock in case of a fire too?

They have manual handles too

There are manual releases too

Another one?

You like making excuses for death, to protect your weak investment? Now compare brand new vehicles. The gasoline vehicles you're looking at are older than 5 years at any time and usually poorly maintained.

Source: Career in air cargo. Your understanding is not correct. Up to a 1/4 of a tank is routine. Note that vehicles are normally driven on and off ships under their own power.

I dare you to find one person that can sit in the backseat of a Tesla Model Y and manage to open the door with the manual release without looking in the manual. And yea, the car have to be on fire at the same time..

Its not even news anymore, Ive read the headline so many times Im not sure if Im getting old news again or if its a new case. But Im sure it will keep happening.

I know about a dozen. This isn’t some big issue.

A normal person wouldnt even look after some kind of manual door latch, because its kind of never been a thing on normal cars, for obvious reasons.

I hear he’s a good hamburger maker

And he's building the factory on Mars. With a construction crew of Optimus robots.

Sarcasm tags ruin all sarcasm

Yes, but tesla hid them behind trim pieces. Every other car that’s ever done electric door releases made the physical override be you just pull the same handle, but harder for a reason.

I hear they often bite down at ... inopportune moments. Reattachment surgeries have a low success rate. Those mechanical jaws don't usually sever cleanly.

And you know its going to happen I hope we get to see how they react if they decide to go rogue

Tesla makes even the infamous Ford Pinto look like a shining example of automotive safety.

There seems to have been in shift in how Reddit algos work, around the time of the great upheaval when a lot of mods quit and this sub went down for a few months. The algos started suggesting posts from this sub to a much broader group, in my estimation, and people who really, really dislike EVs too a cue from negative stories about TSLA and applied it the the entire genre.

Yeah they’re not doing anything here might as will take them to Mars

They need to add explosive bolts to the doors

All the more reason to give Elon an extra Trillion dollars worth of stock just for his leadership today.

At this point they know what's coming, the fact that they continue to drive them seems more like they like the risk. It's the new "extreme sport".

They like Jaws in the Bond movies

And they can't exit the vehicle because the idiot CEO in charge ordered the engineers to throw 100+ years of design iteration out the window and not put in a mechanical interior door handle that easily and intuitively opens because of some 'aesthetics' horseshit.

It's more telling that Tesla is quietly paying off victims families rather than fighting any of this, they don't want a court case and the discovery that that will entail.

> I am however an engineer in the automotive industry and work a lot with the NHTSA. And their statistics say there are 30 EV vehicle fires per 100k vehicles sold and 1,530 ICE fires per 100k vehicles sold. Citation? I think you'll find those numbers come from https://www.autoinsuranceez.com/gas-vs-electric-car-fires/ and those figures don't come from the NHTSA, the NTSB or the NFPA. Even if those numbers were real and the authors were transparent about where they got them and how they crunched the numbers to reach their conclusion, they fail to account for vehicle age so they're worthless.

It doesn’t help that if the battery core gets exposed to air it spontaneously erupts into flame and it’s a runaway reaction, so gets far worse as more battery gets exposed. If it’s a fully charged battery as well then you might as well just send flowers as the reaction will be even more intense.

Even then, I don't think anybody deserves to die by getting trapped inside a vehicle just because they bought a Tesla

It's good for the gene pool.

Over 40,000 Americans die in car crashes every year. Why is this a story. Wow. Car crashes and people die. Shocking. Never happens to ICE cars. You can be critical of Tesla and Elon without being just dumb

Needs to SUE for 1 Trillion Dollars. I hear he's good for it

Sounds like the planet got a little smarter.

Your history is riddled with nothing but tesla/musk news... lol wtf?

True! Citing the author instead of Google would've made it easier to verify that lol. Only Tesla exposes its customers to confined spaces hazards. That far out for people used to more civilised car troubles.