Tesla 'Robotaxis' keep crashing despite 'safety monitors'

Lol they're overriding the monitor instead of vice versa. Remember folks moon and Mars colonies last year, multi starship refuelling in space, easy stuff

Is it really worth it to keep Elon there? Does the board not have enough to go, “you know what? We’re good—fuck this guy.”

Sadly worth it for them, when they all have generational wealth from Tesla stock, whatever he does doesn't matter.

With elon there will be no Innovations but a high stock value. Without him there will be no innovations but low stock value.

The monitors are probably on ketamine.

It's FSD Of course they do. It's not autonomous or you wouldn't need a license to drive it

Do you know why? I know why. Here's the big secret: it's literally harder to be a safe monitor than to be a safe driver.

It's one big fail. Boy, I sute hope they give their supreme leader his trillion dollar compensation.

Good ol Eleanor Musk, a walking douche canoe.

Why does he bother? Teslas and FSD have such a bad reputation among the public that Robotaxis will *never* take off, ever. You have to be the dumbest kind of Elon Musk stan to ignore the risks. As will be the case with his "Grokipedia," it'll only ever be used by a fringe of idiots who go out of their way to consume anything connected with Musk. Same with Cybertrucks. A small fringe of idiots. Same with his robots. The usual fringe of douchebags will excitedly purchase them and that will be the entire market. And of course he insists that all of this stuff will have a "trillion dollar valuation." He's literally just a hi-tech version of the snake oil salesmen of 200 years ago.

I'm sure the monitors have been told to only intervene if it's absolutely necessary. So they probably wait longer than they should to intervene so the intervention data looks better.

10 years of full FSD next year.

Watch Elon use this to justify removing the safety monitors.

100%, this is why pilots have 1000s of hours of experience and training to monitor autopilots.

Full Musk driving in action bitches

This story is complete BS. Austin has a website foe autonomous driving showing all incidents by severity. As of yesterdayvYesla had 1 incident in Austin since June. Close to 90 since maybfoe Waymo.

The article states 4 crashes in the nhtsa data, the nhtsa data shows 4 Tesla crashes, and Tesla announced 250k miles. The article is accurate and you’re probably a bot.

Why is he Eleanor? As in Rigby or Roosevelt?

The market will eventually figure out that Tesla's only needle moving accomplishments under Elon are Model 3, Model Y and the Supercharger network.  Unloading Elon causes the market to quickly figure out robotaxis and robots are a bust but it's sort of embarrassing that the market hasn't already figured out they are a bust even if he stays.

The musk family wouldn't be worth anywhere near as much of the Tesla stock collapsed and that is the most important thing to them. Their portfolio is Tesla heavy to say the least.

Maybe that's what they'll call it if they ever crack it - FFSD.  Not to be confused with FSD which doesn't do what it says!

Kind of an analogy for a lot of AI. It might do something quicker, but it takes longer once you've manually checked it.

They don't need it to be high forever, just long enough to divest. They're looking for bag holders, and the new bag holders will be looking for bag holders when they realize they bought the bullshit. This will keep repeating until the stock collapses. The incentive to keep Musk will remain until it collapses, as well. The stock's value is entirely dependent on his cult of personality.

Note also that real autopilot is only used for the easy, boring bits.

Wait for the 14.4.45.56 version. It drives better than MadMax. Trust me

You mean FFSd.

And Tesla Tequila

It’s because we haven’t paid Elon, the richest man in the world, enough! In fact he hasn’t been paid for the last 5 years! You expect him to work for free? That doesn’t put food on the table for the musk family!

Not really true but I get your point. An autopilot can come on at about 100 feet and land the airplane. It requires lots of training, retraining and study to stay current on flying the airplane.

Still, the programming of an autopilot including autoland is relatively simple from a programming standpoint. Much easier than fully autonomous drivinh.

Even if they vote down his pay package, he's not going anywhere.,

There were supposed to be 100 astronauts living on Mars by now. When someone cornered him on that, he promised to build an entire self-sufficient city of *one million people* by 2045. Self-sufficient. Meaning all their food, clothing, electronics, everything, produced locally. How are you even going to transport a million people Elon? If he said 2145 instead of 2045 (and it wasn't Elon Musk talking) maybe the whole proposition would have some plausibility. It would still be a bad idea, but okay - maybe you could. Why does anyone think a guy who can't even build a car that navigates the road automatically, after saying it was just around the corner for the last ten years, could possibly create an AI humanoid robot capable of general tasks, which is orders of magnitude more complicated than the thing he can't get working? Other companies like Boston Dynamics are so far ahead of Tesla in robotics they will never catch up. They've got human form robots that can run, jump, even break dance, in autonomous mode, or chase down a fleeing suspect over uneven terrain. All Musk has shown us is a second rate prop operated by a gamer with a VR rig in the next room. Why oh why do investors keep throwing money at this loser?

I was curious why the tesla stock goes up despite bad news so asked a trader. He told me they get auto funding so long they are on the main indexes and the traders always hedge. The people think there's corruption but if you think about it, trading firms don't speculate with pension funds, the skim and have hedging departments. Now for space x it somehow govt mandates and nobody is willing to drop them like a potato. That's a usa corruption thing I suppose. Starship is the biggest scam ever , it has gaps several inches wide and long you can see space from inside, it carries a freaking banana as load but promises 100t cargo, now down to 50 and that will also never happen, radiation and heat shielding will make the thing heavier and no amount of engines will make up for that. And the refuelling in space..haha now that's not happening ever

Poor guy. He’s suffering.

Its not Teslas fault that things keep getting in their way.

Elon said his cars would be driving coast to coast without a driver by 2018. Which is 7 years ago. He lies so much that there is a Wikipedia page dedicated to his failed FSD claims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

Most likely

Stock is going uppppppp

Some idiot in the Model X sub referenced the robotaxi rollout as evidence that Tesla does meet their goals with products and launches.

The point was being trained to monitor autopilots. Not programming the FMS by the pilot or the programming in the FMS.

Yeah I should have been clearer. Because the programming of a plane's autopilot is simpler (and much more redundant) than that of a car's would be, the plane is much less error-prone. Yet pilots still require very extensive training to monitor it. That was my point.

Every failure reinforces why Musk doubled down on Robotaxi instead of the budget Model 2. It’s not about safety, it’s about valuation psychology. Robotaxi keeps Tesla in “future potential” mode, where markets reward the *story*, not the *stability.* Here’s a good breakdown on how that decision was made → [https://capitalfolly.com/tesla-at-the-crossroads/](https://capitalfolly.com/tesla-at-the-crossroads/)

I thought everything telsa could be a robotaxi, its amazing elon doesnt get sued for lieing

100%

Almost everyone on the board is either a close friend and longtime associate or an actual family member - one of them is his brother. The best chance for ousting Elon is a shareholder suit for breach of fiduciary duty. The board is obligated by law to base their decisions on maximizing return for those shareholders. They know full well their CEO's toxic politics and despicable public persona are a big part of what's tanking sales. He has also made a lot of bad business decisions. And yet, they keep him on out of loyalty - even voting absolutely ridiculous compensation packages for him while the company suffers. There is such a suit from what I've heard. It will probably be successful ... eventually. Corporate lawyers know how to drag things out. Unless plaintiffs can get their case on an expedited track it's going to take a while.

While copying the rest of the Wikipedia, they did not accidentally copy that page to Grokipedia :)