Suburban police issue reminder about autopilot mode after car hits squad vehicle...

Dumb Tesla driver

How many of these crashed are caused by drivers falling asleep and disengaging FSD causing the crash. I think a large flaw with FSD is that it 100% disengages and the vehicle will behave as if it lost control. There should be a graceful disengagement that will prevent a crash with an accidental disengagement (eg. You hit the steering wheel by accident).

Full Reckless Driving strikes again.

I'm sure Tesla legal will say that autopilot shut off 10ms before the crash so it is not to blame in any way.

Mad Max Mode Baby!

Unconfirmed. Article said police said unreliable driver said Autopilot was engaged. I doubt the reporter or police confirmed Autopilot was engaged, and the driver claims to have been asleep, so I doubt they'd have known at the scene of the accident. If it's confirmed by Tesla, it should show up in the next update to the NHTSA's "[Level 2 ADAS Incident Report Data](https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-order-crash-reporting)". Props to Ford's crumple zone designer.

Dumber Tesla vehicle.

So if the driver was sleeping who was driving?

If Autopilot wasn't engaged in the lead-up to the collision, then you could characterize that the car having no driver or having a sleeping driver. Informally I'd say "nobody was driving", but I could see considering him as driving for various legal purposes, for example to cite him for driving recklessly.

Somehow SpaceX always manages to "capture data," but at Tesla it always goes missing....

So nobody was driving, the Tesla just ram into a cop car by itself?

I don't know in this case, but that often happens when people fall asleep while driving. Cars can continue in motion until they hit something.

So the owner of the car and the cops say the car was in auto pilot, im inclined to believe it was on auto pilot.

The article doesn't say the police said autopilot was engaged during impact. It says "The collision is being investigated by the Barrington Hills Police Department".

The paragraph before your quote "The South Barrington Police Department said on Oct. 15, a Tesla was being operated in autopilot mode when it struck a department patrol vehicle."

Ok, if they really did say that, perhaps they did make a determination. I wouldn't count on their having said it though, or on their having made a determination; it's possible police just reported what the driver said, and either police were careless with their attribution, or the article was careless with precisely what police said. Like some people might read the police report that said the driver said Autopilot was engaged, and if you asked them what the report said, they'd mischaracterize it as saying that Autopilot was engaged. Like

Well if you have any evidence that auto pilot wasnt on you should probably contact the South Barrington Police Department. Until then Im gonna take the word of the people involved in the accident.

The secret ingredient is lying

If you start to fall asleep FSD can tell and gets extremely loud. Even periods of non-movement are penalized with “tug the steering wheel” commands. So you would need to fall asleep with your eyes open looking straight down the road and moving it right to left slightly.

We promise version 14 now doesn't hit emergency vehicles! ... You sure about that?

This would be a huge improvement, slow down and pull the car over somewhere and then 'lockout' autopilot for some amount of time as a penalty; especially with autopilot being all about safety (or at least as sold).

But it's way easier to just "bail out" and tell it's the driver's fault. If something happens during the auto pull over, it can be a liability to Tesla.

Yeah I thought of the same thing when I saw the Mark Rober video of Tesla vs. Lidar, it was oddly strange how Tesla's self-driving turned off just before the crash

They capture it, then burn it at the stake

I’ve personally witnessed an autopilot crash. The car got confused and decided that two lane road each way is 4 lane road one way and drove the wrong way until impact. The driver was responsible but he didn’t even know wtf happened. Probably distracted. He did plead guilty in court and last I read he was being sued for civil damages.

Isn’t Tesla supposed to stop anyways? Literally any other new car would stop to prevent this accident.

Tesla's Automatic Emergency Braking is supposed to brake to lessen the severity of unavoidable frontal collision. It may have done that. Drivers can also disable AEB. Most AEB systems aren't that reliable; they may avoid certain collisions, but there are circumstances where they won't, and we don't know the circumstances of this collision.

Don't Hit Cops Mode!