Tesla Robotaxi Gets Stuck in Infinite Loop as Support Tries to Break It Out

A Tesla robotaxi carrying a passenger in a convoluted parking lot drove in a circle over and over as the "safety monitor" in the front seat sat bored and did nothing — until the rider finally called in support. When an agent got on the phone with the rider, self-described EV enthusiast Dan Burkland, they unfurled a leading contender for understatement of the year: "It looks like your vehicle seems to be failing to make progress."

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What was it doing visiting Apple headquarter? /s Apple HQ is at One Infinite Loop, Cupertino.

>One lap later, another support agent gets on the phone, and the car is soon brought to a halt. >After another minute, the car starts moving again — but slowly. And though the car's interface shows that Full Self-Driving is engaged, Burkland suspects that a teleoperator had taken over the vehicle due to its sluggish, delayed movements. It also comes to a stop randomly as it inches forward — "almost like, again, someone's trying to override what the system wants to do," Burkland said.  >Eventually, it picks up speed and starts following updated navigation instructions that allow it to take the temporary exit, Burkland said. In all, it takes between five to six minutes before the robotaxi finally makes its great escape from the apparently labyrinthine parking lot. >"I'm glad Tesla support has a process for this," Burkland enthused. I can't get how those tesla shills think. That guy was stuck in a car moving erratically, that the guys from support can't make it stop several times. He noticed that they were not able to control the car, and that when they managed to do, the car took over and started living its own life again. But he is "glad that Tesla has a process for this". Next week in the news: Burkland's robotaxi have a dramatic accident as the car drove itself into the wall. Airbags deployed, but the electrical system failed and the doors are stuck locked while burkland have two broken ribs because of the accident. Just before the electrical system failed, the car contacted Tesla Support Center, who contacted 911 to save the injured driver that can't leave the car because doors are locked. On his hospital bed, Burkland declared **enthused** to the press that "he is glad that tesla has a process for this"

Nostradamus.

This whole exercise is so fucking stupid. It’s fraud. Straight up fraud. There is no progress and there never will be.

Man, I guess I should buy stock, then. /s.

Infinite money glitch secured. Should be good for another five bucks onto $TSLA

I know someone who took a Waymo to a Trader Joe’s parking lot where it just gave up which is what I also want to do when I go there. But that was years ago; Waymo is years ahead (assuming Tesla is progressing not regressing).

That’s not a process, that’s an escalation.

It does look like they have some form of remote manual driving control, which is interesting. Other than that this isn't that different from early Waymo.

Tell every Tesla superfan you know that they’re legit idiotic if they still believe Enron musk

It changed in 2017 (or 18?) to Apple Park.

What can the Safety monitor do? Does he have a brake pedal or accelerator? How does he make it safer? Is he just there as the scapegoat incase of a ticket?

Only good news is he is alive. Elon’s Vision tech is a failure. When will the first death be: passenger, bike rider, pedestrian, construction worker?

Appreciating asset!

This is exactly why it is invite only and I don't see that changing anytime soon. No normal person would not only put up with but defend this BS.

> I'm glad they have a way of dealing with it now... in an extremely limited, invite only way that required two seperate people to fix.

> Other than that this isn't that different from early Waymo. Sure it is, Waymo was never lying about their capabilities.

They can open the door to make the car stop.

Paid influencers what do you expect

well, fair

What is he supposed to say…? He was able to get where he wanted to go because Tesla does indeed have a process for navigating out of FSD’s problems. Now if he said “the ride was everything I expected and more, Tesla’s on a path to success.” I’d be more critical.

Should drive all the way to Google’s head office lol

Parking lots are apparently quite difficult, even for humans. They’re a major source of car accidents.

I think a lot of these people have never taken a real cab. Like if you had I don’t know, a real driver in the car, they would have been out of that parking lot in way less than the 5 mins it took.

It didn't seem to be sufficient.  It worked poorly, required the passenger to call support, support apparently struggled to control the vehicle at all.  This shouldn't be on public streets. It's not even half baked.

IMO, the whole thing in Austin was set up basically overnight when Musky coughed up a hairball when questioned about Waymo going public in Austin, saying ‘yeah us, too!! In april!!’ which pacified the media and wall street, apparently. Then April became June, and ‘rollout’ became 20 vehicles in tight geofence with shotgun-riders, available only to sycophants and shills. This aint no ‘testing’. This is as far as they’ve gotten in 10 years of hype? And ‘all of a sudden’ like and only in flustered response to embarrassing questions? Yeah, aint no ‘testing’ going on. I’m sure theyre collecting data, etc., but this is not a result of being far enough along in the overall process that just happens to coincide with someone else lapping you a few times in your new ‘home field’ (erm, track). It’s a dog and pony show, another tele-operated robofest of smoke and mirrors and darkly attired remote operators in the shadows. It’s all to keep the balloon in the air a bit longer, until the next time pesky questions and doubts come up.

I would assume he could get into driver's seat and drive it like a normal human. I'm laughing that he sits there and doesn't do anything to help the situation.

Not a word here I disagree with :)

I thought that it got trapped driving in circle at Apple Infinite Loop campus.

Hey look kids, there's big ben, and there's parliment!

This is hilarious.

Elon was probably in the call

Parking lots aren't mapped on Tesla's system so FSD should not be used in them, it won't work properly.

The thing is they aren't mapped on the vehicle's software.

>required the passenger to call support What the fuck was the "safety" driver doing? >This shouldn't be on public streets. Good thing it happened in a carpark haha.

I thought FSD already drove better than a human as of 7 years ago

13.2.9 has the same issue. You can drive with no interventions across the country as long as you never enter any parking lots. Bet they are getting of loads of edge case data working that out. It would be nice if it avoided potholes too instead of just puddles.

That's certainly what Elon said.

>Once the service gets more big

That technology is allowed on public roads. There are definitively some major bugs, as shown by this video and several others of the car doing dangerous and/or illegal maneuvers. Fortunately, the danger level was low here because the car was in a parking lot. However, it shows a significant flaw in the software: In some situations, the remote operator are not able to take over control of the car: they took about one minute for the first take over with the help of another operator, and the car took the control back soon after, and the remote operators struggled taking over for five more minutes where the car override the instructions given by remote operators. This remote control issue where the car can't be stopped remotely is a major security issue, especially seeing all those other videos of the car doing dangerous moves and the passengers had to stop it. What if the car have the same issue on those situations ? And while the passenger was on this situation, in a car that nobody seems to be able to control, and was doing weird stuff, he still is enthusiastic. I think any normal person would get at least a bit scared, and the tone when saying you're glad tesla have a procedure for it wouldn't definitively be **enthused**.

>What the fuck was the "safety" driver doing? Well, the support couldn't take control back at first, and it required a 2nd operatot to jump in the call to manage to stop the car for the first time (then it went crazy again). Maybe he have been trying to takeover for several minutes but couldn't do it...if this is the case, it's even more scary than the safety driver not existing.

Elon working hard to make 1984 a reality with their usage of language.

Personally I find it satisfying to see all these flaws of FSD and Elon’s incompetence to be laid bare. And it’s not helping their stock at the moment.

Link to video: https://xcancel.com/DBurkland/status/1948858296888377555

That'll never not be funny.

It is literally the Mechanical Turk

I think it's "200% better" or maybe "300% better" or maybe by the end of next year. Or definitely this time of the year some other year.

Seems like a real problem for all of the people who take a taxi to a concert or sporting event.

If that's based on fatalities per million miles, it might be true, given that this car will drive around the parking lot forever going under 10mph.

Maybe there's legal issues with adding them as they are privately owned not public roads. It's been a problem for a long time I believe.

I’m guessing that safety driver is fired already lol. Dude was on his last day and just decided to let it fail.

Glad they have a process for this.

Opening a door will disengage FSD in a normal Tesla. Will it cause a robotaxi to stop?

This is actually totally predictable (except by Tesla's engineers, apparently). Some years back Elon introduced a feature where you could summon your car from across the parking lot, and it would come to you. That immediately failed as the cars would take the most direct route, going wrong way down the parking aisles and generally causing havoc. Obviously the cars have since been programmed to recognize and strictly adhere to parking lot signage. And thus it gets stuck when there's no sign for "out".

Tesla makes goals for the express reason of changing them.

I bet it’s drawing a dick

Oh wow I thought only Waymo did this (one time)

Delamain

lol. Guy brags that only 10% of his rides require interventions.