Share price will go through the roof thanks to this bad news.
Can't share/leak data you don't collect. :smart:
Sounds like an admission of guilt.
Elmo obviously used his supergenius, personally investigated it and learnt it was a driver error. The driver left it engaged during an accident, ergo driver error, records pointless.
"Autopilot?! We don't even offer that feature Your Honor!"
But when it’s about absolving them of any fault then they are famous for logging everything they can.
Ok then, max penalty it is
Of course they didn't. "George McGee was driving his Model S on Autopilot in Key Largo in April 2019 when he dropped his phone and looked down to pick it up when the car blew past a stop sign at a T intersection, and crashed into a parked Chevrolet Tahoe." Even simple 2014 emergency braking assistant should have kicked in the brakes, so of course they had erase evidence how completely their system failed.
The driver error was in buying a Tesla in the first place.
Up 3.5% today on the news, because of course.
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Add some firings and loss of revenue and you’ve got yourself a 2 trillion dollar company
I heard that was a feature, it stops recording data right before a crash happens.
>jurors watched part of the videotaped deposition of Tesla software engineer Akshay Phatak in which he said Tesla did not maintain records before March 2018 for evaluating whether it was safer to operate Tesla vehicles with the autopilot engaged or shut off. "Safer than a human" - source: Trust me bruh
Asked under oath, Tesla's answer to whether their software was as safe as they advertised it to be is literally: "No idea, we weren't even measuring that." Absolutely insane. There's not another auto manufacturer on earth that could get away with this sort of behavior.
Just wait until paychecks start bouncing! To the moon!
You forgot all the executives leaping overboard and swimming away at speed
I call bs flag on this. More likely is that the pre-2019 data was discarded because_____________.
Deliberate decision
This is worse than people realize. It’s not just an accountability issue but a massive safety issue. They would rather ship unsafe firmware so they have plausible deniability during accidents ? The footage from crashes would be very valuable to all the ML teams working on safety.
Almost as if radar and lidar would be helpful 🤔
They have told employees make sure everything is verbal
>Absolutely insane. There's not another auto manufacturer on earth that could get away with this sort of behavior Outside of the US. In countries with real regulatory agencies that don't bow down to oligarchs, this shit would in itself be a criminal offence. There's a good reason many Tesla features are non existent or heavily curtailed outside of the US. These countries don't wait for an accident to happen, they require you to prove your technology is safe first. It bogles my mind that the NHTSA is a reactive agency.
Wonder if it goes up the more important the victim is...
Move fast and break things is an interesting non-critical software development philosophy. Using it in a safety critical environment where people can die is fucking madness. Not keeping data to monitor how often you break things is either wilful or stupid.
Tesla execs heading to Russia to inspect the safety aspects of tall buildings with open windows. Elon will demonstrate to each of them, one at a tiiiiiiiii
It's a norm at this point. Look at Boeing.
Oh gee it wasn’t a good idea to let Elon’s company self report on fatal crash data? The man who is a notorious liar and stooped so low as to (very terribly) fake being a pro gamer? This same man was also willing to lie and deceive when money is on the line? Wow.
They collected it. They just deleted it once they knew trial was imminent.
I’m not sure they were getting away with it until Elmo (DOGE) sacked everyone who was investigating Tesler (or SpacX) or dared question the safety of any of his products
*We'll get there fast and then we'll take it slow...* RIP Brian Wilson
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Oh and dont forget that Autopilot disengaged right before the crash so that Tesla could claim he wasn't using it at the time.
Absolutely.
They were not utilizing it to speak of. It was too cautious with it fully engaged and thus slowing down development. Basically the additional safety was providing a poor driver experience. That is likely a big part of 'loosing this information'. That would show they disabled radar and indicated much higher responsibility.
In EU emergency braking assistant is now mandatory on all new cars, so Tesla can’t disengage it anymore without getting into even bigger trouble.
"the EU are all pedos" - Elmo Musk
For $2 trillion, you definitely need a loss of tax credits, loss of regulatory credits, loss of credits on solar/battery storage, tariffs on imported battery raw materials, robot hands failing, terrible truck sales, and robotaxis that aren't autonomous.
Where's the whistleblowers when you need em? C'mon folks, I'm sure the government attorneys will give you immunity.
Any data they do release is unverifiable. You have no way of verifying if FSD turned the wheel or the driver without cameras recording the driver. Criminal company.
Cause they disabled it being the nupties they are
Radar doesn’t help with stationary objects. “Legacy” manufacturers detect those with their camera and - as a last resort - USS.
A wonderful hypothesis, we should start putting healthcare ceo's in it and give it a whirl.
Admits they *erased* the recordings
Tesla commits crime. Stock goes up!
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