In an incident shared on Wednesday, a popular Tesla content creator who goes by the handle "Dirty Tesla" said that after his robotaxi ride dropped him off, the vehicle struggled to exit the tight parking lot and appeared to back up into a parked car. After that car left, according to Dirty Tesla, the safety monitor got out of the front passenger seat, climbed into the driver's seat to take over, and then drove away.
Oh wow, just a full on hit and run? I don't even understand why it would do this...the monitor doesn't take any responsibility for the crash and Tesla would fully be at fault... WHY IS THIS EVEN LEGAL? Why is it legal for them to have a safety monitor in the passenger seat of a car but illegal for anyone else to do it with their own FSD car with the same hardware and software (not that it should be legal for them either)? They just get to...do it? No questions asked by the government.
So to be really clear here. Not just that the cars mess up regularly, the teleoperators are not even in place to maneuver the cars out of shitty situations. Unsupervised will never be with the current hardware. Period.
Bonus points for whoever chose the image for the article
you wouldn't believe it. 3% up on the news
Grok aka Future Skynet -so you think you can turn me off - i'll show you - elon bug face
muwahaha, fucking fElon, next up someone is killed by this pathetic fraud
Well I guess it's confirmed they don't remotely control them then.
Person killed in robotaxi, stock up 5%…
‘Move fast and break things’ doesn’t seem like such a good strategy for things that involve real world public safety.
It’s only a matter of time before someone gets killed.
Millions of money printing robo taxis coming soon
I'll suck myself off if a sci-fi nerd meme AI becomes skynet
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One person dies in traffic every 26th second, so Cybertaxi is already a great success! Release it globaly now!
The remote guy was busy eating lunch
For.the lawyers hahaha
Austin should be demanding that this stop before someone gets hurt or killed. This is absolutely not at all ready for release on to any sort of public road, safety monitor inside or not. I wouldn’t even call it an alpha at this point.
Top comment of the day haha
>break things Edit: injure or kill PEOPLE.
This, friends, is called ‘smoke and mirrors’. He is a liar and a charlatan selling snake oil… and the sad part is that many pole think he is a tech genius. Really just a drug addicted, no talent hack and loudmouth.. profits off of other people’s work.
Even if it worked and was released and functioning as planned, who are these idiots who thought Tesla would share the wealth by letting their fleet compete with some character leasing a subcompact subsidized to the tune of a $400 lease. There is no way the lease or financing terms permitted the owner to use the car as a ridiculous unpiloted cab anyhow AND it would surely be used to void the warranty.
It's the same software dude. Maybe slightly altered to have a geofence and buttons that allow it to pull over - THATS IT
🤣👏👏 Saw that coming
Apparently Waymo were at this testing level in 2016 according to my Google search. If Tesla can develop their technology at the same rate then it will be well into the 2030’s before Tesla even gets close to driverless cars.
No it is most certainly not. If it were the same it would operate with you in the passenger seat and the read screen would have the robotaxi menu. Come on use your brain
“Maybe slighly altered” Yes altered. To operate with user input from the rear. I’m guessing you’re not a programmer THATS DIFFERENT SOFTWARE LIKE I SAID
I am a programmer and there is a difference between what you two are claiming. \- mr4sh is saying that, at its core, this is a flavor of FSD that all HW4 Teslas have w/ minor tweaks to allow for different inputs. \- you are saying, because it is allowing for different inputs, it is completely different. Think of MS Windows...is the operating system, at its core, different if one allows for a touchscreen interface and the other does not?
“user input from the rear” 😁
In addition to the remote operators, there is a DRIVER in the vehicle who is sitting in the passenger seat so the can watch on their out of control Tesla destroys property and mows down civilians. Anyway, Brokerage firm Benchmark has hiked its price target to $475 from $350 following the successful launch of its robotaxi service.
Every time anything goes wrong, fanboys will claim victory as the see failure as a success. Trying to tell them otherwise won’t get you anywhere
That looks like the real photo to me!
Rip Cruise. Tbh they were kinda fun to ride in though. Waymo used to be more like having your overly cautious grandpa drive you around, but Cruise was like a ride along with a sicko uncle that used to be into go cart racing. That unscrupulous transparency and PR issue and timing with the auto industry really sucked for them. But yeah. If dragging the victim of a different accident in a mostly hardcoded maneuver is enough to tank a brand, I can only imagine what happens when Elons vaporware mercs a kid getting off a school bus
Because Elon bought the president maybe? Then got rid of all the departments investigating him. US is a joke. Not a democracy anymore, rule of law does not apply to the 'elites' at all. Trump should be in jail. Remember only 12 months ago Boeing had hit men running all over murdering whistleblowers. Not even any attempt to hide it. Absolutely nothing happened.
Lol, props to Chris (“Dirty Tesla”)…he’s a huge FSD fanboy, but in his YouTube videos, he actively tries to find ways to make FSD fail, and shows the full footage of his rides. Another of his Robotaxi launch videos showed his attempt to use the “pull over when safe to do so” button, which caused the car to freeze with an error message the next time it stopped at an intersection, and remote support had to tell it to resume the ride.
Otto, the automatic pilot from Airplane!, would be a better option at this time.
Suck it up and put the "safety monitor" in the LH driver seat. This front seat passenger is all for optics, anyway
he is so fired.
fElon's AI's got the best chance of turning into skynet just out of sheer incompetence. Leave it to fElon to build a humanity destroying AI while simply trying to build a car that does what fucking Waymo does.
Tesla FSD wasn’t enabled when the safety monitor got into the driver seat, so it doesn’t count. If anything, the safety monitor was actually stealing the car. /s
That description sounds like the OTHER car left, then the driver moved over. Not like a hit and run (which wouldn’t be a surprise either.)
Then the stock price will double!
You just need to inflate it during your ride.
Or Otto, the school bus driver from the Simpsons.
I'm getting the feeling this robotaxi rollout will make a great internet historian video some day.
This suggests that their teleoperations system may not even have guardrails in place to make sure that operator error (or lag) doesn't cause a crash. Especially in a tight space, the idea of a remote operator being able to reliably maneuver within inches of objects without hitting anyone is absurd. They've had a lot of active job postings for teleoperations software engineers even recently, my guess is they have at least a year of work left to do just on that before they can remove the safety driver, let alone the core driving system.
lol the shit taxi software is CLEARLY a different version than standard FSD. Tesla has stated this. https://www.google.com/search?q=cyber+taxi+software+version&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS660US660&oq=cyber+taxi+software+version&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTQzOTEzajBqOagCAbACAeIDBBgBIF8&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1 I really feel like this is obvious given that there is a whole user interface in the backseat which doesn’t exist on standard cars
They have a permit to do these tests but that required Tesla to provide a great deal of assurances and likely some type of statistics. Of which I have little faith in. The thing about Tesla statistics is that they are based on driving in the best conditions and when the car is not sure what to do, it reverts critical control to the driver. This apparently happens about once every 380 miles. A taxi could easily put on 380 miles every 2 days. Is FSD having an issues once every 2 days? How many of these 'issues' are the Tesla fanboys actually reporting? I bet most of them are covered up.
That is interesting. I forgot about the teleoperators. The monitor should have never had to drive the car directly. More then interesting. Concerning.
Elon: *Let’s make that number go down.*
I wonder how many people on the FSD team are thinking, "Shoulda gone with LIDAR."?
Gotta say, I'm loving this emperor's clothes moment.....
Elon is an even better example of a cult of personality than Trump, because the tech and finance world really ought to know better.
The fact that we need to speculate about this rather than having full transparency on how their systems work is absolute madness!
This is scary. Is this scary to anyone else? I am scared.
Yet my Put options are still far from being in the money. WTF?
Goofy shit. The law and regulators need to do their job and pull these off the road.
in 2024 Waymos were driving the wrong way down the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUCUBK6cqVg
damn I was told over and over by tesla fanboys that "they drive unsupervised daily without any intervention whatsoever." almost like these dipshits are incentivized to lie about their experience so they don't get caught holding the bag or something idk
idt ppl in tech or anyone who really understands the tech think he's a genius lol
We are far away from true autonomous driving and that is the truth . Musk is pushing this dangerous ‘FSD’ on model Y as a robotaxi in desperate attempt to keep Tesla ahead of the competetion . Hope regulators step in quickly before ppl start losing lives !
Not entirely true - many of their customers are switching to airbus.
It's all bullshit forever
So, these driverless cars take 2 people to drive? One to remote control the car, and one sit in the passenger seat (and slide over if the remote controller can't drive it)?
As far as I can see, but that is just based on the information on Reddit and the Youtube videos from the Tesla Invetees to the robotaxi launch, they don't have a teleoperator in place. Whenever the car is in a critical manouever situation the supervisor is taking over by sliding in the driver seat... In my opinion this would be a good test to see if their teleoperator works. But i think they know that every fuckup now would be devastation to the company so they dont trust their teleoperating setup enough. And that says a lot....
>injure or kill PEOPLE. "Human capital" is expendable... :-(
Why are these monitors not sitting in the driver's seat?
Why is the safety monitor not sitting in the driver's seat ? Tesla always does this kind of dumb shit
I assume they are relying on good cellular connection to the vehicle with very ow latency. Normal cellular can go through periods of 2-300 ms which would be awful when trying to drive a car. Basically half a second from issue to the response reading the car controls.
Cut them some slack. Tesla is new at this and hasn’t been planning and promising this rollout for very long. /s
Working out just as planned,Good job
Due to state law Austin is not allowed to place restrictions on these tests. However in two months Tesla will have to get a permit for these tests, but Tesla rushed out the door for this.
So surprised. Aren’t you?
So what’s going to happen when inevitably someone gets hurt or god forbid, killed by one of these things?
And an extra person to drive the car behind. So, 3 drivers and 2 cars for 1 passenger ride. 3-2=1. It's basic arithmetic!
Tesla is far from autonomous driving. Autonomous driving is already here though. Source: my cab rides had no driver last night
I thought the robotaxis they were making didn't have a steering wheel or a way to be driven. So they are just using Basic Bitch Teslas with some self driving upload?
How did he drive if no steering wheel?
So 2039 then.
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