A Tesla Actually Drove Itself from Los Angeles to New York: Exclusive

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This isn’t impressive until it does it without anyone in the car

If the person in the driver’s seat had their eyes closed the entire ride would you be impressed then?

No, the other one was California to Florida.

Did you even read the article? > it finally happened: **Minutes ago**

I disagree, this is the first consumer technology available that has completed this journey. That's super impressive. Next step is for driverless drives, which just started.

It drove my grandpa from home to Vons without an insurance incident so I’d consider that pretty impressive

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Be honest You are just an Elon hater

Very cool, and apparently the whole thing is recorded on video. So where's the video?

How did it manage the charging?

What are you talking about?

Why lmao - a car doing everything on its own IS impressive

Completely driverless would be impressive since it shows Teslas complete confidence on the liability of the software. It’s cool seeing the cybercabs drive without a safety monitor finally This also has been attempted before to some extent previously so it’s no the first time some one has literally tried going really far on FSD.

By his massive balls, yes

True, but this seems to be the first truly "successful" drive.

I’m not arguing that FSD is great. I’m saying this has mostly been done before and isn’t really ground breaking. I think the next bar for reliability that would be cool to see is a completely unsupervised drive where there isn’t a human fall back They said there was only one intervention which I don’t really believe and that they recorded the whole thing but they have no video or link to any footage

Mostly been done by…. I’ve tested ford BC and GM SC - neither are near FSD…

Genuinely I feel like it could safely be done with someone in the passenger seat too for the 1% just in case. I’ve never felt unsafe using FSD, just annoyed with lane management and routing.

Yes? People have done long supervised FSD drives, I’d like to see unsupervised FSD do the same drive. Knowing there isn’t a human fallback in the driver seat is much more interesting and ground breaking

I mean the only argument here is it’s illegal. It can clearly be done, but it won’t.

By charging at superchargers?

The people in the car plugged it in

It parks. They plug it in.

Unsupervised FSD doesn’t exist, I’m talking about in the future, this was obvious

The article says they literally just finished the drive “minutes ago”, so it’s probably coming, but not yet.

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I hope so! It's not that I don't believe them, I very much do. I just really want to have the video lol. And I missed that detail in the article, my bad. (I promise I did read it!)

Getting closer to the cross country summon

I have no interest in WATCHING the video, but I agree that I hope there’s video proof.

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Then why comment at all? Really bizarre attitude.

Oh yeah, I wouldn't watch 100% of a 50+ hour video. But I want the proof to be available.

Lmao. This was a customer doing the drive, not Tesla. It's obviously also not feasible to remote control a 50 hour drive at high speed over a cellular internet connection.

"I'm not gonna read it but I'm sure as hell gonna comment about it!" \- this guy \[Edit: preserving the previous comment in case it gets deleted. >I’m not clicking shit, everything in Reddit is clickbait \[End\_edit\]

So this is the 2nd cross country road trip completed in the last month completely on FSD? Exciting!

\[...\] they recorded the whole thing but they have no video or link to any footage According to the article, they literally just finished the drive within minutes of the article being published. So, maybe wait to call them out on not posting a 50+ hour video immediately after the drive ended haha.

You got a legitimate laugh out of me haha. This is great.

Just need that charging robot snake to come back!

Zero disengagements? I highly doubt it. FSD 14 has gotten better but I’m still taking over at least once every 30min

I did a trip from New Mexico to New York and back for Christmas. I took over to park, because handicapped, but I didn't have to touch anything on roads. Well, until the blizzard goop from upstate NY roads got all over my cameras, I guess, but everything else was hands-off. It was remarkably boring. I have complete confidence in the tech now. Tesla should garrison Optimus robots at superchargers, and let us sleep in our cars while they drive. It's that good.

These people sound like the 9/11 “truthers” who insist that the 767s and 57s were remotely flown into their targets.

Exactly 😂

One person’s experience doesn’t equate to everyone. Plenty of YouTubers have said that FSD drives them all around without any disengagements. Doesn’t mean that it would happen where I live if I had FSD, but it’s indicative of a very good and safe system.

FSD has *never* done a coast to coast drive without any disengagements. Not until recently where it’s happened twice. And no other company or development team has done it in a customer vehicle, that you could literally go out and buy right now.

I drove from Boston to Chicago all on FSD this past summer. I stopped to super charge every 2-3 hours.

Is there automatic autopark, or did they have to take over for that input?

YouTube'r here with some unbiased thoughts and have FSD 14. It's great on the interstate. City driving, prepare for disengagements as the map data is pretty awful. I put 1900 miles on FSD last month in a week. It is pretty awesome for those trips, it didn't do well on the Supercharger parking though. That's about a 50/50 thing.

You put it in chill or sloth it goes the speed limit…usually

https://preview.redd.it/doq52ai7czeg1.png?width=915&format=png&auto=webp&s=9ab3ade057257471013b134d7212c31fae6cff9f u/RamboTrucker It also looks like you just deleted this comment. Not sure why you create so much trouble.

You have it backwards - those people are exceptions, not an indication of safety. Countrywide statistics are the only metric to look at to determine safety, not the words of a bunch of people who have a vested interest in Tesla being successful.

Crowdsource the plug in. Ask other people charging (through speakers) to plug u in, and transfer a dollar off their charging to yours.

I would say I disengage about once every 5 minutes in a parking lot, once an hour on the regular roads, and I can't remember the last time I had to disengage on the interstate (it has made some lane changes that were inadvisable but not dangerous in any way). A cross-country trip is going to be mostly big highways, with some little stints to a supercharger and then back on the highway. I can believe no interventions on some youtuber's drive (especially if they planned a route with as little construction as possible.) I don't think they're close to having 9,999 out of 10,000 cross-country trips be zero-intervention, which is where they gotta be.

I mean that’s it’s an indicator of FSD getting better and safer. A disengagement free drive like this just wasn’t possible even 6 months ago. Go back a few years into the “Beta” days and it would’ve been downright dangerous. It’s not even a subjective thing, the system is simply much better than it used to be. We already know how safe it’s from Tesla’s reports.

Well, I'm not arguing with any of that. But you can't just say it's "*safer*" then decide based on pure anecdote that it's "*safe*". It's improved, obviously, and the stats show that as well, but that's not the claim I had an issue with. It's not a "very good and safe system", or it would be Unsupervised.

FSD **is** safer, Tesla’s own data proves it. And safety is steadily improving. FSD not being unsupervised doesn’t make it unsafe. That only means it’s not safe enough relative to human drivers for Tesla to take liability. If FSD was unsafe there wouldn’t be driverless Robotaxis roaming around in Austin. And, there would’ve been tons of bad or even fatal crashes by now that were caused by FSD. That logic doesn’t make sense, Autopilot’s in aircraft are far from being unsafe, yet they’ve always been supervised.

I actually believe this. Driving cross country means almost entirely staying on highways. FSD is amazing on highways. If I just did highway driving, FSD would easily be 99.9999% of the way there. Where it struggles is on local roads where it needs to recognize signs or where there are unexpected physical barriers separating lanes.

Your first sentence is *exactly* what I said. It's safer and I'm not arguing with that. *But* that doesn't make it *safe*. That's my whole point. And enough with this binary of "safe or unsafe"; I'm saying it's not "a very good and safe system" because it requires driver attention to be saf*er* like it is. If it were safer than a human driver *on its own*, at a level backed by statistics, it would be Unsupervised. Robotaxi is also not a good point; it's even more limited than Mercedes' Level 3 autonomy.

There's about 16 thousand accidents per day in the US alone. Out of that 16 thousand, approximately 94-96% is caused by human error. So there's about 106 fatalities every single day in the US just from vehicle accidents. About 50% or more of humans drivers are driving with some sort of distraction, whether it be texting, looking at their phone, intoxicated, falling asleep while driving, eating food, engaging with passengers, spacing out etc.. Driving is one of the most dangerous things the average human does on a daily basis. So human driving already isn't safe, but we still allow it and nobody seems to care lol.

FSD is *already* safer than a human driver, but that’s not good enough. Tesla wants it to be 10x safer before taking liability. Robotaxi is L4 now, there’s no one in the driver or passenger seat. It won’t take much longer to know if Tesla’s data is right. And while limited to one city, that’s still leagues better than Mercede’s system, which they’ve canned btw.

That's correct, and none of that means we should accept less-than-human safety from an unsupervised form of FSD - which it would be if we're going to go around calling this "safe"

We have no evidence it's safer than a human driver - because *all* the stats for commercially available FSD (yes, all) are only in the case of FSD that is supervised by a human. Of course, that's all we have to work with, but I think it would be big news if FSD itself, on its own, were already statistically proven safer than a human. If it's been done, please cite the source - I would love to see that that is the case. Robotaxi may be Level 4, but that means jack in this discussion - it's more restricted in its domain than the Level 3 system that was on the road, and it's *way* more restricted than actual FSD, as yet a Level 2 system. Therefore, it is not evidence that FSD is actually safer than a human at large; it is only safer under those specific, highly constrained circumstances. Mercedes canning it makes enough sense - they're taking the Tesla route with 'point to point' software, now. And, as we still see with Tesla, the most advanced technology is still only Level 2 on that domain because it isn't statistically safer than a human... without a human.

Optimus attendants may not even be such a bad idea. Not so much for plugging in---that snake thing is much cooler---but for all the other service it can do. Clean the cameras and lights, serve coffee, refill the wiper fluid, serve espresso, air up tyres, serve cappuccino, vacuum the interior, serve caffee latte, beat up cable thieves, take old takeout cups to the trash...

I don’t want to watch it all but I do want someone to watch it all to confirm haha

What about serving macchiatos

Just like LLM's, we can also use different models for different things lol. We already have some little stands in malls with a robotic coffee-making thing, Optimus bro could just grab it from there when it's done and hand it to you.

The thing is, we know that the car is pretty competent when it comes to interstate driving. It’s when it comes to the nuances of city driving where it all falls apart.