Elon confirms banish and one-tap summon coming in “near future”

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“In the near future” means “it’s never gonna happen.”

Is this from today or 2016?

why would i want to get out of the car to grocery shop, if i can have optimus come out and put the groceries in the car, or maybe have the tesla drive itself to the grocery store and bring back the groceries to my house!

Is he wrong? It might take a year or a decade but we are clearly moving in that direction.

>In the near future, your Tesla will drop you off at the store entrance and then go find a parking spot. So the car's going to pull parking ticket from the machine?

Seems like the car would need to be level 5 if it were allowed to drive around unsupervised so I don’t see it happening any time soon.

Because one of those hypothetical things is more likely to happen earlier than the other.

At least this time he didn’t say when it’s going to work. Usually he gave some ridiculous date and it was never done on time.

"parking spot" means the private property parking lot of the store in this case I guess. But I'd never let my Tesla drive out of my sight.

Are people really that concerned with walking from a parking lot stall to a store? It’s usually not all that far.

Not all parking spots require you to pay for parking or walk up to a parking machine after you park the car, for those scenarios it would theoretically be pretty cool and useful.

Finding parking on the other hand can be next to impossible.

Its not that people are concerned, lol. Its that this is super cool tech and tesla drivers are often nerds. Having your car chauffeur you around is so cool man. There is a reason valet parking is an entire industry aimed at convenience for those who can afford it

If he specifically stated when it would happen, but it didn’t happen by then, then yes he was wrong. He is notoriously known for being too optimistic **when** things would come to fruition. I agree though, that we’re clearly moving in that direction. It would be cool to see it happen and function well.

He's been saying this forever lmao. But I do think it will come in some version of FSD 14.

As a consumer few things are as annoying as people getting in and out of cars at the entrance to grocery stores

If it can go around and around one doesn't need to park anymore.

For people who want to watch the referenced video: https://x.com/devinolsenn/status/1976427010739318873

This is SAE Level 3 or 4, not 5. This is a very specific scenario in which it can operate autonomously, and between level 3 or 4, it would depend on whether the system would require you to drive when requested. In other words, would it alert you on the app that the car is stuck and needs attention / needs you to take over? Then that would be Level 3.

Yes

Often it’s busy or raining, drop off, go park in the back where it’s open. Come back for pick-up.

Not a great solution.

I don't even trust my Tesla to stay on the correct side of the road.

Tell that to the people that bought the car a decade ago expecting it to be soon.

No one should be using banish until Tesla takes responsibility of the car if something were to happen.

Who is responsible if the car runs over a pedestrian after dropping you off at entrance?

What happens in term of liability and insurance if the car hits something or someone while there is no driver in the car?

Mine offers to park in an adjacent traffic lane when stopped at a traffic light. Can’t wait to see teslas just parking randomly on the streets when banished. 😂

... Yes. He is constantly wrong.

Tell people like that to stay away from Kickstarter

Autopark has nothing to do with FSD. It's much more basic tech.

the owner of the car

I agree he was egregiously early with those predictions back in 2016 but fsd was never trained on parking lots like it has been in 14. Influencer videos seem promising in the parking lots so far, I don’t think these features are years off at this point

But what if it’s still kickstarter? And whatever you happen to own isn’t going to have all the necessary hardware to actually deliver? Tesla is just a Ponzi scheme.

The person who pushed the button to "banish" the car. You take responsibility to send your car out there with all the risks associated to it.

Source: trust me bro, I will make it happen, someday.

Screw it then. I have enough problems in my life.

We didn’t what?!?! I NEED TO KNOW

Today is 2016

I believe level 3 requires an in vehicle user who is ready to take over when requested. It would have to be Level 4 to drop you off.

You just need to use the Elon translator, so the term “near” in this context means 10 years minimum.

Yeah. Ok.

Um is that not what summon does already? Except it goes super slow and you can never be too sure it didn’t hit something?

If you send the car to park itself and it hits another vehicle, is Tesla responsible for the damage?

That exactly what I mean. If you buy it for future potential you're buying into a Kickstarter. If you think what it does today is worth the price, then buy it. Otherwise don't do it unless you're ok with making a donation.

That’s the Waymo solution.

Is it 2018 again?

Don’t even need to be going in circles. Find a place and park close to the parked vehicle. If any vehicle is trying to exit you move forward or backward. Then you park on the open space.

API call to the parking service can solve this pretty easily.

Lol, I barely trust that fucker to drive itself when I'm in the drive seat. Ain't no way I'm cutting it loose in a parking lot 😂

Can't wait to see 20 Teslas blocking traffic and picking up people in front of Costco.

Sounds like a really serious liability

If everyone did that the parking lot would be full at 10% of parked car capacity with not a single parking space being utilized.

This feature described above is an extension of Summon, called "Banish," which may or may not require direct driver supervision, via line-of-sight or monitoring via app and cameras. If it is specifically confined to a private parking lot, and the driver does not need to monitor the environment, but must take over when requested, then this would be defined as Level 3. Level 4 would mean the car could park on the lot without the need for the driver to intervene. Summon, whether in Level 2 or 3, does not include a requirement for the driver to be inside the car, let alone in the driver's seat.

Because self driving famously does well in poor weather conditions

Just need to add Wi-Fi access points to every paid lot(some of which still use the honor system cash boxes and others that are using machines from decades ago). Then you just need to get hundreds of vendors to add support, then Tesla just needs to add support for each individual vendor, then you just need to... If it was so easy, 3rd party charging stations would already have the plug and charge ability we get at Tesla superchargers.

and when we hit the point that many people are doing this, , like you would see at an airport (on a lesser scale), im sure it wont cause any issues a busy parking lots like at costco which are not designed for this kind of behavior...

imagine like 5+ cars doing this at a costco on a weekend.

Banish is going to be super risky. I've seen way too many videos of the latest 14.1 FSD where car (even with driver inside) wanders aimlessly in the parking lot on a loop or simply abandons attempt to park and stops altogether. Not mentioning that it does not distinguish between normal and disabled parking spots. Besides, what happens if parking is full (many smaller parking lots often become overflowed and you need to find parking nearby. I doubt Tesla is going to do that, in which case it would simply abandon attempt to park, stop and block the movement of the cars behind it.

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Finding CLOSE parking can be next to impossible. Excepting some rare occasions I can almost always find a parking spot, but it might be in the boonies.

Videos only look promising in semi-empty lots. All videos of crowded parking lot parking attempts look super sketchy. Granted, parking in a full lot is challenging even for human driver, but would you trust your Tesla finding a spot and not simply deciding to stop and block all the traffic because it gave up?

The advanced AI in my Tesla can’t figure out when to turn on the windshield wipers smh

Unless it's a one way parking lot like around a lot of restaurants where you only have one entrance and one exit and parking around the facility. Once your make you 'round' your only way back is to reenter the street traffic.

This is what I really worry about. Not really doubting he can get this done, but really worried about the car disabling someone or hitting someone .

Just shut up Elon. Can we please get feature updates and announcements from a member of the engineering team instead of a suit?

Yes, this is the big hurdle that might make private use of level 5 FSD impossible. Who pays for the inevitable accidents? I bet insurance policies are soon going to be updated with clauses such as "a licensed and insured driver must be in physical control of the vehicle at all times". An electric vehicle media outlet in the USA could try contacting all insurance companies and try to get quotes on a driverless vehicle. That would be an interesting article.

Ya, but it’s not presented as a kickstarter. It’s presented with confidence from the CEO of a public company. Elon is a con man. Maybe a well-intentioned con man, but still a con man.

You are correct.

>All the videos of parking lot attempts look super sketchy Really? Every example I've seen has been impressive, like this video in a Costco parking lot. https://x.com/DevinOlsenn/status/1976427010739318873?s=19

Plus I'm guessing your car insurance almost definitely excludes this from their coverage, so you are really on your own if you use it.

Exactly. Why on earth would an insurance company agree to cover the liability on this experimental technology that they have no control over and have no long-term data on to even try to project risk?

It's a game changer for people with disabilities, especially in Costco parking lots when disabled spots are often full.

Looks like it handles Costco lots pretty well: https://x.com/DevinOlsenn/status/1976427010739318873?s=19

Elon isn’t exactly the kind of person to take responsibility for anything, so good luck with that

Yeah, when he has to turn on Billy Hill music in the middle of the clip and admits that it took 10 minutes for Tesla to find a spot, that was 'impressive'.

Quad Elon would've been nice in this era

Current summon is kinda of a hassle

Unfortunately that's the reality any time you pay for something with only the potential to exist in the future. Doesn't matter how well-intentioned he is, he can't predict the future.  Affordable consumer self-driving will happen, that is guaranteed. But when is still up in the air, and paying for imaginary timelines that no one can guarantee is as clear a caveat emptor as it comes...

Better let me banish to a spot far away from other cars to prevent those door dings.

I can see insurance companies adding this in at a premium price.

The latest dirty Tesla video showed the car wanting to park in a police only parking spot.

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This is exactly my thought. I mean, I most always have a toddler with me. I can’t just summon it to the front of a store and expect people to wait there as I put my child in the car seat at some weird angle because it didn’t know exactly where to pull up to.

Shut up mo fo. My FSD is still shit.

You missed the part where he says it *did not once pass any available spots* due to how packed it was. Looks like everyone else also spent a similar amount of time looking. In other videos it pulls in right away assuming there's actually a spot.

Because people will pay to have it, and the collected revenues are priced to outweigh the expenses?

You missed the part where he said that any human would park the car much quicker because we can understand when spot is about to become available and car can't

Tesla has the worst self drive on the market, what moron would trust their car to do this?

This

What if it’s leased?

I always think this when I see posts like this. I never have any issues with parking super far away and walking

Which one!!!!!???

Me either. And I live in Canada where winters are cold and nasty. I can handle a short walk to a store even if I have to park at the back of the lot. This whole idea just screams first world problem and laziness. I do understand the value if some sort of disability is involved

The insurance issues are huge, as is safety. Even if this is just for parking lots, not roadside parking.... It would have to recognize restricted spots - handicapped, 'pregnant mom', order pickup, etc. It would have to be able to figure if an spot-adjacent car is active - someone is about to open the door to get in or out. I'd hope it would only pick the center of 3 adjacent empty spots, and then only if there's no text on the pavement, or signs near the spot. What will it do if it can't find a spot?

The person who leased it then. At no point is Tesla or insurance ever taking any amount of responsibility whatsoever.

First, you said its performance looks super sketchy and that you wouldn’t want the car stopping and blocking traffic. Now you’re saying it’s too slow and *should* stop to wait for a spot. Which one is it? It can’t both block traffic and be too cautious -- that’s literally the trade off every human driver deals with in a packed lot. Seems like you can’t be satisfied no matter what it does.

👉🧠

This guy has been lying about FSD for about 8 years now. Don’t believe a word.

The big thing is "banish" which is basically auto Park but without the driver, it just goes off and parks. Then the police come to arrest you mid shopping bc it killed someone.

Wear a rain jacket. Is it really that big of a deal?

I was promised my car would drip me off at work and go Uber people and make money for me while I worked…. This was around 2017…how are people still hanging on every word this man says?

Don't manipulate my words. When car stopped it was not to wait for traffic to clear or parking space becoming available - it was the end of the drive. It simply gave up on parking. But if you are confident enough in car's ability to park itself without driver, go ahead - nobody's stopping you.

Is this “near future” with us in the room, Elon?

It's mindboggling that anyone takes him seriously. He's been saying this stuff for nearly a decade. I bought "Full Self-Driving" that was "nearing release" in 2018.

Especially, of all places, a Costco parking lot.

It didn’t “give up” - it literally pulled into an available spot and parked, which is the whole point. The drive ended because it completed the task. If anything, that’s better than half the drivers in the video blocking the aisle waiting for a spot three cars ahead. You're acting like it needs to teleport across the lot to prove itself, but it just parked cleanly and moved on without drama. That’s the win.

Neither. In fact, they both have the exact same probability. Zero.

Touché

Heard this before.

Just curious, what if it’s a Tesla insurance?

Then the person who operates the car. The person who trigger the button.

Tesla insurance is still an insurance company, their goal is to make money. So if there is any risk that they would have to pay more for settlements/crashes, users of the feature will be billed more.

Great until there are a line of Tesla sitting at the entrance of every store.

No thanks.

Yes but I believe the probability of that happen are very low. I'll take the risk.

Until it’s installed in my car, I’ll keep holding my breath on any “confirms” on Elon’s part.

Soon™️

Lol, image how many people it will piss off at the mall searching for a spot. When everyone is circling around parking lot hawking.

I mean, it’s gonna be pretty hilarious if Tesla insurance wouldn’t cover some Tesla features

Exactly. They will just charge extra money for it. I am sure they can make it profitable.

Alright Thank you That will be another hike in insurance. This automation is crazy but the real question is if these technologies are affecting negatively on Human motor skills

If I was an insurance company, I would cover it in a heartbeat. There will be a massive amount of data to back it up so will be extremely easy to calculate risk and extremely easy to determine when the risk of this feature is less than the risk of a human driver.

Bought full self driving in 2017. Full self driving is completely unsafe because the car wobbles side to side when on autopilot and will not stay in the lane.

I don’t understand why you people are so negative Nancy about this stuff. Risk would be easy to calculate compared to a human driver and tesla insurance would be first in line for Tesla’s extensive data pool. Of course they will cover this feature. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Negative, you'll get sued to oblivion if your robot car hits someone in a parking lot. Plantiff lawyers will line up for miles to get this to a jury.

My fsd can't read speed limit signs. The big 2 number signs. How will it read handicap, or police only or pickup orders only, or reserved?

Do you understand the concept of context length for artificial neural networks?

Sort of how insurance companies have decided it’s too expensive to insure houses in Florida/Texas due to hurricane risks. If the risk is too great they will just dump the driver or jack up the price so you cancel.

Even after they solve the communication layers, the API has to be standardized or have to have an army of libraries, keys and secrets. So easy.

I'm assuming that was said with /s

Well yeah. House is a little different. With car you can decide to not use that feature and be OK. So no risk there. But damn, you can't control the weather.

Insurance companies will just price in risk assuming you do use it.

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There was a spot right at the beginning at 0:54 on the left, temporarily blocked by a passing SUV.

Whoa 20 minutes …

Does someone need to understand those to drive a Tesla?

I'm trying to help him understand why speed limit signs are particularly challenging with a pure neural net approach. Other types of signs are much easier to handle correctly with such an approach because they're only relevant while visible or shortly after being visible. With speed limit signs, you often need dozens of seconds or even *minutes* of context to account for them, and that's extremely expensive computationally when we're talking about feeding 36 Hz 40 MP video into a neural net.

“Sorry, officer, but my car can’t understand the concept of that speed limit because its artificial neural network has insufficient concept length.”

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Buddy, he asked how it could be able to handle other types of signs if it can't handle speed limit signs. So I explained how. Regardless, FSD is actually quite good at driving at an appropriate speed in my experience with v13. I'm not sure if they're augmenting the main neural net with other systems to make that happen (for example, using a separate neural net to read the signs, storing that as an integer value, and then feeding that value to the main neural net as an input), but the result is quite good.

Hi Elon

I think you meant to say, no one should be using this if they don't want to take responsibility if something happen.

My Toyota can figure it out just fine

Bullshit of the day award goes to Elon 😂

FSD is shit? lol do you even have FSD? or do you thing the normal AP is FSD?

I do miss. It is shit.

Buddy, your Toyota can't even stop for a stop sign.

Mine rarely chooses the right speed. The screen even often shows the wrong speed. It goes by the map which is not accurate in many cases

So if conman is rich cause they are good at conning a bunch of gullible rubes, then it’s safe to take conman seriously. Got it!

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Tap summon on your phone- car comes to pick you up- runs over a child in the parking lot- who is at fault? The owner of the car who was inside shopping? Tesla? No one?

Near future probably means 5 years to him.

Yeah, I think. The biggest issue is that they need to be able to recognize more types of signs. I only used FSD on HW3 with trials...think it was version 12 at the newest? But the issues were things like a 'truck speed' sign being read as a speed limit sign, car stops for a 'stop except right turn's when it's making a right turn. It's just too limited in the number of signs it can recognize (but again, this was older dad and hardware so not sure if it's improved any)

I think banish is a poor choice of words. This is the kind if things that causes the AI uprising.

I don’t know if I believe this. Elon tweeting about an exciting thing about to come to teslas doesn’t have the highest hit rate

Right after auto-wipers is fixed.

Can you ask the LLM how many % of the stupid shit come through?

Just like when we were going to be able to have the car do autonomous taxi services while we work to get passive income like 5 years ago

Autopark uses FSD to identify parking spots. It didn't use to before V12 if I remember, and used to require the car to be moving pretty slow in order to pick up on spots, now FSD scans what it sees and marks spots instantly.

Bro it's not that complicated. On my current version of V12 it is very inconsistent sometimes picking up on speed signs. Sometimes signs it sees very briefly it grabs, others that are as clear as day on a straight road it misses.

Lol never seen a more adventurous explaination of a Tesla misbehaving. The networks only task is to read a number correctly. Basically one of the oldest problems neural networks are being used for. After it is read it is simply stored in memory not in "cOnTeXt oF tHe NeUrAL nEtWoRk" haha. You sound like a student just hitting his first deep learning course at college who has never ever written an AI based Software that is used in a production environment.

Is it April 1st?

Nope, it's still a separate system. It's a new system now (and came out around the time FSD v12 came out), but it's still separate from FSD. FSD is an end-to-end neural network. Autopark uses the old approach of separate perception and planning with many modules.

Highly highly doubt that.

You're talking about the bespoke speed limit detection system. I'm talking about the end-to-end neural network that is FSD. I don't think you understand this topic well enough to even know that these are two different things.

Okay Miss, you seem super intelligent just like Elon.

I wouldn't say intelligent more of a keen sense of spotting trolls. But thank you for the compliment.

So just like people were promised to have FSD like 10 years ago...

There's nothing like letting your second most expensive asset wander off unsupervised! I imagine this will appeal to the same people who get a thrill out of online sports gambling.

That's going to be what happens to downtown areas. Just unmanned cars circling the block over and over waiting for their owners to return. It'll be a disaster for traffic.

The absolute closest my Tesla has ever come to hitting someone was in a parking lot while it was fucking around in a parking space. Summon and auto park are so terribly implemented.

My curb rash anxiety will be thru the roof

No thanks. Walking is good for you.

All the other AI out there can read text, why can’t a Tesla?

LOL and even that isn't even close to working properly. It's all such a scam

Not with HW3.

I already know those insurance scammers will purposely target Tesla owners if this becomes a feature. They will purposely cause an accident and blame the Tesla since it would be hard to prove who caused the accident. \------------------------------ I feel like this would make sense if parking lots adopted a new layout. Treat this feature as Tesla Valet where you are given a designated dropoff area and then Tesla Valet would take over. Then there is a designated area where the cars can park in a grid pattern like a valet parking service. Since all the vehicles would be controlled via AI you can just have one attendant be the manager/controller for the area. If he sees a car acting weird or someone causing an issue he can be the witness and also step in if he needs. The machine learning could learn the average shopping time of their owners and park the cars in an order based on their average shopping times. Then as cars get Valet'd the other cars that came in before would all be moved forward simutaneously. Thus indexing the new cars in the back of the lot etc. If someone needs their car and its block it would automatically shuffle the cars to get the car out while still maintaining the best efficient layout.

100%

I mean, no other car can do even what a Tesla can. But yes, I think the issue lies primarily on the software side. Lots of kinds of signs exist, I think they need to program the a Tesla to recognize more types than the basics it can do now...but again, my experiences were 2 FSD and 1 hardware version ago, so maybe the Tesla can do a lot of things now that it couldn't when I tried it...I haven't been keeping up with it too much.

Oh look, Elon making false claims again

😄you didn’t take the bait. Kudos. I am comfortable using FSD on the highways, but not on other roads.

Just fix your auto wipers first. Fancy features don’t mean anything

Both of them work but Autopark is too slow to be useful to me. It needs to be perfect and fast for me to use it on a regular basis, and it's not. But FSD is fantastic and I use it all the time. It's incredible.

Yeah that why I said with some exceptions. Most all of us deal with that *occasionally*.

Or worse, it doesn't know when to NOT turn on the wipers.

Near future? Like 10/15 years later.

Sure

What if there are no parking spots?

Anyone who believes Musk's promises for the schedule on which new features arrive just hasn't been paying any attention. I bought my Model 3 new in 2019, and he was talking about robotaxi-style self-driving being ready by that Christmas. In case you hadn't noticed, it still isn't here.

Cool, man. Wonder if he’ll be named in the Epstein files or pay to fix the water in Flint, MI?

He’s been promising this for fucking every now

The true test is a Trader Joe’s parking lot.

I know. All the other car companies have been doing this for years right?!

For the amount State Farm raised my rates when I got a Tesla- should be covered.

People are too fkn lazy.

I can see a FSD option for FSD additional insurance. Only $1499 a month in addition to the FSD subscription!

It uses FSD to read everything, you dont know what you are talking about lmao

So glad to hear Tesla is offering something super dangerous that they would stand behind, literally.

lol, refer to him infiltrating the government to give himself contracts for his half a trillion net worth…. Or maybe refer to him building xAI without any permits or following any law and then closing all investigations into his wrong doings for his half a trillion net worth… 😂.

A better feature would be a "Costco" button in the app, by which the car will drive Optimus to Costco, Optimus does the shopping while the car waits, then both come back, car parks itself in driveway and Optimus brings in groceries and makes dinner.

Would love Banish but even Summon doesn't work half the time lol

It seems like the way it’s searching is not very intelligent. I see it pass right by the front of the store at least 5 or 6 times. If the parking lot is full, then you clearly need to start looking farther away. And if the car has already dropped off the human there’s no reason not go straight to the back of the parking lot instead of driving around creating traffic for 20 minutes because it’s looking for the “best” spot (and then pulling a slow-ass 5 point turn to back in there).

Elon didn’t “confirm” this, he “claims” this.

It's almost like there are still improvements to come. Why does everyone act like these cars are learning like a child would?

Because it is trained to drive, not read. All the other AI can't drive.

How would it be different than if a human driver did it?

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Oh but it’s going to happen.

So... 2067 ?

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I dunno man, there are many car brands that seem to have no problems reading speed limit signs with much lesser technology. What’s so difficult for the neural network to understand that from the point of the speed limit sign until the next one whatever it said on the first one is the speed limit?

And then it will be stuck in an infinite loop when they are all full or park next to the door dingers clearly with no insurance lol. One tap summon is also a bad idea because if it freezes up your just stuck walking back to it

Today is more like 1934

Are people dissing FSD in here bots or what?

Coming 203x* *possibly

Yeah he said that 10 years ago

That’s weird because I rented a ‘23 Kia EV6 which **can**. I was like "how is it pulling this data from a database? This is a temporary sign” and I notice it was still doing it in the wilds of West Virginia where cell service was nil and navigation was broken. It was doing it live in real time with machine vision. Suddenly I understand the 500 watt consumption of accessory systems! I always wondered what sort of machine barcode would be used on street signs. Turns out, it's ClearView/Roadgeek.

I’ve heard this before, back when hardware 2.5 was new

Very thoughtful car!

More like Groundhog Day.

Near future 😂

I genuinely did not know if this tweet was from 2016 or from this year. My clues were the X logo and V14 under what Elon said. I

So now the front of Walmart will be a traffic jam of Tesla picking their owners up at the front door because they are too lazy to walk to a parking spot?

Used smart summon once...in an empty parking lot. I don't get why you have to manually press and hold until it comes to you. If FSD can drive you from point A to B for hundreds of miles. You should be able to press Summon one time and the car should come to you without the need of pressing the button the whole time while looking at a tiny phone screen. I do know that it is for liability reasons.

LOL! Your car has a side job.

My FSD has been questionable since the 2025.32.8 update. It has been perfect on my 2025 Model Y before that.

Any other cars in the US that can self drive in local roads and highways?

Because you the owner will be banished for life after the car runs over someone.

LOL! Costco and Trader Joe's ... Which is actually beside each other in my area and shares the same parking lot.

Tesla Disclaimer: You cannot use the banish feature on Trader Joe's or Costco parking lots.

This can be useful during Christmas time.

You obviously don't do that for paid parking lots.

Slow down folks. You are already on step 5. Let's try step no. 1

You have to press and hold the button on the app for summon. Banish is one press.

Hey there. That’s my video.  The way v14 destination parking seems to work at the moment - it gets itself to the destination. (Front door) and THEN it starts searching. Which is why it passed those other spots at the start.

Reverse summon has been coming soon since 2022

Coming soon ™

Yeah, only change is cost of insurance. If the Tesla is a worse driver than insurance costs go up. If it is a better driver insurance costs go down. This is absolutely a risk actuaries can quantify and insure though.

They can't even get the wipers to work

I can see it now. A caravan of teslas roaming the parking lot looking for spots. While your shopping then when you come out of the costco it pulls up front and blocks everything since it couldn't find a parking spot.

My Ex’s 2019 Volvo has better self driving capabilities than my Y, it just that Volvo would rather not run over any children while they are working the kinks out.

Two weeks, max

it’s all recorded from multiple camera angles, so it’s usually easy to determine who is at fault.

5 years from now they roll it to 10 people.  Stock goes up

I quit reading after “Elon confirms”

Damn

Can intel cars get an update past 12.6?

I still can't convince mine to start driving forward after backing out of a spot with summon...

You can already summon your car so yeah, I think a few more updates and we good to go

Mine can, better call customer support to help you out

To park you, the driver, need to click in the spot, so that's the driver's fault

Trash

I can’t wait to see 50+ people all waiting for their identical teslas to arrive and try to park at the entrance while non-Tesla drivers push their carts across them.

Been able to summon at least 7 years.

We’re probably like 5 years minimum from this being a thing. They have a **lot** of work to do on parking lot behavior.

V14 has a completely new parking stack. Vastly, vastly improved. I think that autopark is a different thing, and may or may not have been updated, but the new FSD w/park at the end options is relatively amazing and shows promise.

No kidding it’s happened to me on most recent hardware (front cam) version. It’s keep on driving, I have decided for couple of seconds to let it drive to see how long it’s going to do it like that, then it’s night so I took control over and got on to correct lane.

What will it do if it finds out I grow up to be John Conner?🦾

One can only “confirm” something if one is trustworthy. A correct headline would be “Elon says…”

Can someone fully explain what banish means?

As I walk into Costco I send it off to park.   I hear screams behind me in the parking lot.  I'm sure it's fine.  Keep on walking...

Like summon my plötze in WIII

The last time I used FSD, the parking wasn't as good as auto park. Did they finally update it?

It can't read School Zone speed limit signs either.

Yep! Previously it was really janky. Here it is parking at a supercharger. [https://youtu.be/K424Ezrt9NQ?si=qE5x0c\_uszm6Myu-&t=995](https://youtu.be/K424Ezrt9NQ?si=qE5x0c_uszm6Myu-&t=995) Later in the video he does some street parking, and it also parks in a handicap spot (lulz).

,,Next year”

I wonder how _well_ this will work in Canada with snow, sleet, or ice? I assume about as _well_ as FSD works in the snow. (Hint, it doesn’t 😆)

Could it be that Elon does not experience time the same way the rest of us do? It would explain his confidence in statements like this and others over the years. His "2 weeks" or "this year" is different than ours.

the same promise he made 6 years ago? Everyday someone stupid wakes up and believes him

"Inellegant??"

Are people even using the summon that we already have? It seems horrible and an easy way to crash your car. Tried it once and all it did was take twice as long as it would take for me to just go to the car myself, while also having the added bonus of stress and anxiety.

Two weeks

Two weeks

Two weeks

Two weeks

Two weeks

Key word: "NEAR" future! Sure

Tldr one tap summon coming 10 years from now

I don't know about that liability even if the accuracy is 99.9%. Thanks but no thanks.

This was published years ago, correct? Like 4-6 years ago?

2 weeks

3 months maybe, 6 months definitely!

I think people need to walk more. Also, you can probably park much faster than the car can.

Maybe you need to learn how to put your kid in a seat? It takes literally 20 seconds

Is there a point to spreading negativity two weeks after this was posted? What exactly spurs this behavior? Everyone has different situations and different kids. I’m gonna hope you’re a bot because a human posting this pretty absurd.

This response is pretty absurd. It still takes 20 or 30 seconds maybe less to buckle a kid in regardless of the seat. I did it with two for years.

You need to be able to do both to drive properly. Same with needing to be able to properly judge distance.

Reading isn't to the same level, and it isn't even necessary in almost all cases beyond recognizing symbols. Same with judging distance... Only a certain level of precision is required for most situations. The AI should be trained to stop safely for cases it can't handle, and then it can call for help.

Honestly what really needs to happen is stereoscopic vision in every direction that has a camera, and maybe a higher quality windshield camera so it can read signs easier.

Woosh

Lol say it again today? The car is able to find spot and park itself, not just in parking but curbside/on the street or in your garage

This is a very interesting question. From a civil liability standpoint, definitely the owner of the car or whoever summoned it would be financially liable. But what about criminal liability? What if the car killed someone? How could a person not inside of the car be criminally charged in that case?

Life is tough already. I won’t be using this feature even on free trial.

Really 2016?