Got the news from X, here
**Unwelcoming toxic/griefing/pessimistic sniping comments that are not on topic and don’t move the discussion forward will be removed. A ban will be issued if necessary. Consider this before commenting. Report posts or comments that violate the [Rules](https://www.reddit.com/mod/teslamotors/rules/). Thank you.** If you are unable to find it, use the link to it. We are not a support sub, please make sure to use the proper resources if you have questions: [Official Tesla Support](https://www.tesla.com/support), [r/TeslaLounge](https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/) personal content | [Discord Live Chat](https://discord.gg/tesla) for anything. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/teslamotors) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Good luck.
I agree that only cameras are needed if the car plans to not operate in poor weather or very low light conditions. Otherwise if the cameras can’t see very well and continue to operate with no driver to takeover, I wish them the best because FSD doesn’t handle those situations super well.
[Elon Tweets about Robo Taxi with flat fee at $4.20](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1936834688188129503?s=46&t=LKQGvzU-N7jqtv-tUPBmsA)
Ehhh, test drove a Model 3 last month and it tried to make a left turn at a roundabout. I’m excited for self driving but I think it still needs a chaperone for a bit. Either way more competition is better!
Works fine in very low light and all but torrential downpours.
[deleted]
Waymos will also pull over and halt rides for severe weather.
People dont handle those situations well either.
Well that begs the question, what’s the goal of driverless? Is it that it should perform to the level of the worst driver on the road? The average? The best?
Ahh good to know, hard to keep track of all the FSD versions.
The app looks pretty Uber-esque. After a ride completes you can leave an optional tip - if you decide to tip a "JUST KIDDING" screen appears as there's nobody to tip which I thought was hilarious
10x better than humans or better than that. There are a lot of people bad at driving and this hopefully will get them off the roads. Or maybe make bad driving punished harder since the alternative is required use of robotaxis. If there is a situation where a robotaxi can't drive, like a new moon, at night, raining, and snow on the ground, people can just hire a human driver. Robotaxi doesn't need to cover 100% for many years. I imagine it will be cheap enough that everyone going to the bar will just hire a robotaxi instead of driving since it will be the cost of a beer.
Waymo doesn’t handle these situations either, it pulls over in moderate rain. I don’t think lidar fairs very well in rain, potentially degrades more than cameras do
[deleted]
you're thinking cybercab
‘Robotaxi’ is the service. It has launched today using 10 Model Ys in the Austin-Metro region. There are expectations/hopes that it will expand fairly quickly - both in number of cars and in the number of regions serviced. ‘Cybercab’ is the gold 2-seater. It is expected to go into production “before 2027”. Once it is in production, it will likely be the main/primary vehicle in most Robotaxi fleets, thanks to its expected low cost.
Don’t say that too loud man, what are you nuts!
Hmm I did it in SF in decently heavy rains and it continued on, did just fine too.
I live next to the city with the most roundabouts in the country. I go through a bunch of roundabouts and it has never turned left into the circle. 🤷🏻♂️
Contrary to most taxi services this one will get you more wet by kicking you out if it starts to rain!
Turns out it was 35 Model Y’s today.
Huh ? Cybercab is cybercab. Robotaxi doesn’t have to be cybercab.
My fsd did fine on heavy rain day.
Oh really?! Would you happen to have a link to the source of this info?
🔥🔥
Shhh.. you can’t speak the truth
I thought they would never be able to create an app /s
So say I wanted to buy 50 of them, I wonder what the estimated math on that looks like?
50 rides?
Obviously, the comparison would be to the average. Nobody knows who the best is.
According to Tesla engineering, the model three does not need it, because the nose is shorter and lower than the model Y.
I would think the initial goal to get it rolled out widely wouldn’t be AT LEAST as safe as human drivers which is probably a pretty low bar. At that point it should improve but there shouldn’t really be any reason not to do it. Ultimately the actual goal of driverless cars is $$$
Not saying you're lying, just that I go through roundabouts all the time with no issues. I wonder if it was well marked/which style of roundabout it was? Was it one without an elevated center/some ambiguity? That would be more understandable/inconsequential to me.
I'm trying to remember where it was on google maps, I had done one of those Tesla self checkout test drives, it was in FL, so flat land, but I think it was new pavement or new construction around it. Honestly, until that point, I couldn't believe how incredible the system was, rode with my buddy in Cali for a month, we exclusively used it except a handful of times. Wanted to demo it to some of the family back on the east cost, and it worked flawlessly until the roundabout, it had approached it well, but then started to go really left, and I did what we're all supposed to do, quickly grab the wheel and take control. I'd still have 0 problems with using it, just going to watch it like we're supposed to do anyway.
No, 50 Elons.
Nice, yeah that tracks. I paid for it and people called me crazy but well worth 8k imo, especially if it improves
Do you use lidar to drive in the rain?
Is a driverless car supposed to be better than me or drive at the same level as me? Doesn’t Elon say something about it being hundreds of times safer than a human driver?
It will be (and almost certainly already is) better than you and can drive in any rain/fog you can. If you doubt that, you haven’t tried v13. In the same way ChatGPT is better than you at math. Maybe it wasn’t 2 years ago, but it is now. Go do a test drive. You’ll be surprised.
Oh I’m a big proponent of FSD I just a question if it’s ready for unsupervised with the current HW/SW combination. I was more commenting on your point of a human driving needing LiDAR to drive in the rain. A human driver may crash in the rain if they can’t see, and we obviously don’t want a driverless car doing that. So the expectation is the car has to be better than a human driver, and in certain conditions I don’t think camera only can do it but we’ll see how the robotaxi trials go.
I wish public could get the app. We have to wait
no 50 as in a business.
Why doesn't tesla use Lidar?
Login is required to comment.
Login with Google