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Been to Japan, I think the cars are too big for that market.. even a model 3 is pretty big for Japan.
Same thing in Europe mostly. The Model 3 is alright but it's not considered a "smallish" car.
Probably because Japan is a RHD market and Tesla no longer makes the S/X in a RHD config. I’m guessing the demand for a LHD car in Japan is not worth the effort to sell it.
Same. They have a much narrower personal space bubble and things are generally more compact/dense. I really wish I could get some of their tiny pickups here stateside.
From the article: "To comply with local safety standards, the Model S/X needed modifications, including the installation of a camera and display system to address the front passenger side blind spot in LHD vehicles for pedestrians." Model 3 and Y also need to comply with this? I wasn't aware of this situation. I thought that just was a thing of the size of the vehicles.
Model 3/Y still come in RHD variants so that’s probably why this doesn’t apply.
Plus Japan is a very small market for Tesla and EVs in general.
I haven't verified if that's true, but even if it is, Model 3/Y are available in RHD, so it wouldn't matter for them.
You can. Look for JDM vehicles around you. Bigger markets will usually have one or two JDM specialty shops too. Ty might be interested in checking out r/JDM as well
Imagine if Tesla made a K Car...
They’re like Alphaville
Just domestic sales? Does Japan export Teslas???
I barely even see a model 3 in Japan
Tiny pickup in development from a US startup: https://www.telotrucks.com/
From my understanding the Japanese EV market is very small, and was non existent for a while. With the exception of the Nissan Leaf the manufacturers haven’t poured too much into making them. They are changing course now, but that will take while to get up to speed
Yes there an ex-Japanese teslas in the NZ market.
This - they didn’t import a single MS or MX into the U.K. in 2024 either, they were still selling 2023 built cars as new inventory (all 10 of them in the year) but have imported a few this year. It’s hardly worth the paperwork in RHD countries.
Australia: Join the club.
> They have a much narrower personal space bubble I really don't think this is related, even if it's true. It's just that space is more valuable for shops/housing than parking/car infrastructure, so cars tend to be smaller The truck thing is due to some ridiculous protectionist tariffs and such we have, they're really nice trucks I wish we have more open markets
Yep. Mirrors folded, it's wider than a Mercedes S-Class. 1.933 vs 1.921.
Are you sure about this? I've had both and I definitely don't think it's the case
Yep. Body is narrower on the Tesla but the total width with folded side mirrors is just a tiny bit wider. Mirror wings extend a bit too far out.
How a Cybertruck should have been! I really like that car. Compact but still so practical.
Is that true? My friend had his 2025 model x delivered today in the UK
LHD I assume.
No, all the UK is RHD
Tesla hasn’t made a RHD S/X since 2021.
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S Class body is 10cm wider than M3. Not sure what point you are trying to make with folded mirror with. The only thing I can read out of this is that M3 mirror folding is poorly designed.
Yes that’s exactly my point. In many garages and tight roads, minimum possible with (mirrors folded) is very important.
I really want to see that situation where +1cm folded mirror with is more important than +10cm body width and +46cm length.
Compared to an S-Class? Never. It’s two segments above. (Model S is also significantly wider) Compared to cars in the same segment of the 3 with around 1,80 to 1,85 m of width including mirrors folded? Makes quite a difference. Even a Porsche 992 is narrower at 1,852. Regardless, almost all new cars seem to be getting wider, taller and longer than its predecessors.
Xenophobia country a tough nut to crack. If you buy foreign car you are shunned. A great dishonor
But you can own and drive LHD there.
Tesla doesn't make a RHD model X. Either it's an old model, it's LHD, or it's actually a model Y
You're right I've just used AI to determine the model as I only saw a pic of delivery and it comes up as a model Y. It looked too big to be a Y.
I have a model Y in Japan and the parking spaces are usually 1.9m, so model Y is a little bit bigger but not a huge deal. The biggest problem is the weight, there are so many mechanical park towers in Tokyo that cannot operate on heavy cars, they turn down all Tesla but 3. There are some but those are so expensive, aimed at rich people (e.g. huge SUVs)
41k for that thing??? Nope.
Same in UK. Tesla needs more models imo quickly.
also literally, the M3 is still rather large for the country
Many Toyota employees drive foreign cars. The cars everyone wants are still all foreign.
In 2023, the percentage of newly-sold cars by foreign makers was 7.6%.
Looks great. My only question is whether it's been crash tested? That front end might be dicey in a crash.
They say it will pass all NHTSA safety tests but I don't think it's been tested yet. They say there's a 14 inch crash structure in the front. Imo they'll need to release crash footage in addition to the NHTSA results to convince people it's safe.
has nothign to do with beign shunned and everything to do with the fact that foreigner cars cost 2x as much as Japanese cars. You should stop extrapolating off of one data point.
Ask chat gpt Yes, many Japanese consumers tend to be loyal to domestic brands, particularly in industries like automobiles, electronics, and household goods. This loyalty is often rooted in cultural pride, trust in quality, and a long history of supporting local businesses. Japanese brands such as Toyota, Sony, Panasonic, and Uniqlo are highly regarded both domestically and internationally, and they often emphasize craftsmanship, reliability, and innovation, which resonate strongly with Japanese consumers.
I don't need to cause I've live in Japan and can speak the language. Let me educate you \- Sony is the best brand, but is expensive and break's in a year something that is call the "Sony Warranty" \- Uniqlo and H&M and GAP opening compete against each other \- Most people still consider the height of luxury and status sybol to drive a foreign car. In more wealthy places you will same mainly benzes and bmws. Lexus is not considerd a premium brand \- Panasonic is only know for their fridges now. Many Japanese eletroncis have unqie requirements meaning that they can only be sold in japan and foreign companies don't wan tot have a custom model jsut for japan so they dont' even compete. You need to learn to verify shit on chat gpt.
Japanese people drive WAY less than North Americans and electricity is WAY more expensive. Those two facts alone really dent the EV economics. Hybrids or even pure ICE cars just make more economic sense for most Japanese people. Add the fact that the charging network sucks and 50% of people live in apartments or other dwellings without dedicated parking spots (which means home charging is an impossibility), it makes the decision even easier for them. There’s also the whole nationalism thing. Japan got to mass hybrid adoption first, which is a point of national pride, and EVs are kinda seen as a Chinese Trojan horse.
That makes a lot of sense. Sounds like there isn’t really a need for them, convenient to own them, or a way to charge them all. I guess the market responded. Seeing as it’s Japan don’t many people use mopeds, or bicycles to get around?
Bicycles and mopeds are definitely more popular than they are in North America, but the preferred method of getting around is public transit. In Tokyo, the modal share for bicycles is about 13%, which is definitely higher than North America, but for public transit it's around 36%, meaning that transit is about 3x more popular than bicycle: [https://www.sc-abeam.com/and\_mobility/en/article/20201203-01/](https://www.sc-abeam.com/and_mobility/en/article/20201203-01/) I've only been to Japan once, in May, but my wife lived there for 2 years and told me that the summers get disgustingly hot and humid, which is probably why cycling is not more widespread like it is in temperate places like Copenhagen or Amsterdam. The cycling infrastructure in Tokyo also generally sucks, and most people just cycle on the sidewalks along major roads. As for mopeds, no they are not really popular at all. You can see in the linked chart that motorcycles account for around 1% of all trips in Tokyo. You're probably thinking of Vietnam or Taiwan, two places where mopeds are exceedingly popular. I think r/fuckcars would be very disappointed to see how many Japanese people own and use cars.
I was just there and saw tons of G Wagens and Range Rovers.
Wow, EV car sales only accounted for 1% of total car sales in Japan. Looks like Tesla is a making a smart move!
Refresh is coming soon. Already announced.
Least reliable EVs https://caredge.com/guides/the-most-reliable-evs-according-to-consumer-reports-2025
Not quite. It has ended production for new X and S in other parts of Europe as well. In my country (Romania), which is LHD, we can no longer order new models and they have an incentive for stock units with free supercharger for life + free premium connectivity. Maybe a refresh is coming?
For tesla yes. big ZEV market.
Nope, not just Tesla. Only 2% of cars sold in Japan are electric: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2024/10/18/japan/japan-electric-cars/ For comparison, in the US it's around 8%. Japan fell off and is boomerland now.
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