Free supercharging for life now being offered on new model S

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Do you think they’ll extend this offer to the 3 or Y?

Would love to buy one, if only they made them in right hand drive for Australia.

Nope never

The most they’d ever do is 1 year for 3/Y

So they bumped the price 5k for this?

Tesla pissed a lot of people off worldwide when they announced they weren’t going to be building RHD Model S and X cars after 2021. Sure they may be low volume vehicles compared to the 3 & Y, but they could still do a few manufacturing runs for RHD every year.

Wow, I never thought this would ever come back. How much monetary value would you put on this?

Exactly, they're doing this to pump up sales on a lagging model. The most popular cars in their lineup won't get it.

Except that it says you had to place the order by yesterday. Seems odd....

Never say never. As sales slow, pretty sure they will do everything they can to keep them going.

If your living situation requires you to rely on superchargers, I’d say pretty high Especially because they’ve done limited promotions where you can keep your LTS when purchasing a new vehicle, could save some people a pretty penny over the years. As someone who almost never supercharges, it’s a novelty I don’t need.

A Tesla Model S costs about 15 cents per mile in electricity if you only supercharge (3 miles per kWh, 45 cents per kWh). Over a lifetime of 300k miles, the cost is about $45k. That's the upper end of the monetary value.

With the amount of driving I do and current electricity cost, probably about $2k a year.

Things would have to be going pretty bad before that happens... To be safe we can say not anytime soon. They have a lot of other options before pulling that lever.

Maybe the Y. They will have a lot to dump when Juniper is officially announced

It says on Friday or after not just yesterday

If you click "Learn More", it says this, "Tesla reserves the right in its sole discretion to remove the free Supercharging from your vehicle in the event of excessive charging or unpaid fees related to Supercharging."

All depends on the owner. I’ve used a supercharger once in the past year, so I’d have a while before I ever made up the difference after the $5K price jump

Well they raised the price $5k when they added this

They were going to bump the price anyways, this just lands a little better.

I spend, at most, $100/yr supercharging. It’d take me 50 years to recoup the $5,000 price hike for this.

Reading is fundamental. > Order must be placed on or after December 13, 2024

Assume 15000 miles a year, with 20% charged at a home office, then you are looking at 12000 miles. You get about 3.5 miles per kWh charge (so round down to 3 meaning 4000 kWh per year $0.25 to $0.40 kWh in places so take the top end again and that is a maximum savings of $1600/yr Maybe 3.5 yrs to recoup. If you are lucky. Otherwise see you in 6-7 years. And that $5000 invested in something like TSLA instead would have been a better investment vehicle. So not worth if when compared to the price increase.

Mother fucker

You actually charge $2k per year or in theory if you only used super chargers ?

Does the lifetime supercharging stay with the car like the last time they did this or is it just first owner?

We need to factor in the cost of snacks consumed while waiting for the car to charge.

I average about 5000 kWh a year in my Model 3 currently. The same amount of driving in a Model S would be roughly 6500 kWh. At roughly 30 cents per kWh, that’s $1950 a year when charging at home. The value goes up if you use supercharger prices.

Then there was that one guy and his livery service between LA and Las Vegas… where $45k would be the lower limit.

They absolutely have the numbers on how much people are charging and the average has to be less than $5k over the life of the car.

"Supercharging during your ownership of the vehicle..... Offer is tied to your Tesla Account and cannot be transferred to another vehicle, person or order, even in the case of ownership transfer."

So after 3 years you actually break even.

Yea my wife says her trips to Marshall’s drive up the price of supercharging. They are everywhere around here.

Seems like a lot for electricity, my app says im at 4000kwh and have only spent $711 between home and supercharging (14%) What is your electricity rate ??

About 30 cents per kWh. People in CA have it far worse.

15k miles a year!? Damn.

When they bring back the unlimited supercharging AND FSD transfer for a Y I’m a buyer. I would like to get away from my ‘19 X Performance.

Offer this on Cybertruck and I'd probably complete my order 😜

People said that about Highland incentives, and here we are, where they’re discounting models, giving free upgrades to wheels and paint, letting you transfer FSD.. It’s not if. It’s when.

On my classic Model S with free supercharging that was definitely a factor. The current Model S charges so quickly that many of my V3 stops are only 10-15 minutes.

I got 2 free years of supercharing when I bought my Model 3 at the end of December 2022.

Damn. 30 to 35 cents is what I pay to Supercharge in Colorado. Home electricity is 13 cents. Tesla app says I've spent about $890 for 5.7mWh. Only $108 of which was Supercharging.

How many 300k mile model S’s are driving right now?

Supercharging here is about 38 cents per kWh.

They changed the terms that you can't use it for taxi or livery purposes

This needs to be upvoted to the top as well as the other comment who points out that it’s tied to the account, not the car.

57 cents here in Bay Area.

Is that a lot or a little to you?

I got 5,000 miles of free supercharging on my Model Y that I purchased in March. The only downside is I have to use them up within two years. And because I have home charging I just can’t be bothered driving to a supercharger. But on the few long distance trips I’ve taken it was a very nice benefit. For the Model S promotion I would be torn between trying to maximize the value of the free charging while not wanting to be inconvenienced doing so.

I'm surprised the online pricing engine doesn't list the car for free now, discounting "Est. gas savings" in perpetuity.

Not as much as depreciation.

That's nearly 4x the kWh rate in my area (one of the lowest in the US). But the formula is useful for people to figure their own rates.

How come they were planning to just bump up the price anyways? Cause I've always seen tons of Model S in existing inventory for my area so don't think they sell insanely quick or anything.

Could be number of reasons, we’ll likely never get concrete answer outside of earnings calls. Pricing simplicity, parts change prices, target margins, etc. I personally actually find that having X, S, and Cybertruck same price really simplifies purchasing decision for customers.

They're building a big supercharging station in the parking lot of a Barnes and Noble and Safeway in my area. Seems line a solid cooperative business model

California is a very big place. My electric costs off peak are half that.

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It varies tremendously. A supercharger near me is 20 cents and lower but 2 miles the other way its 40 cents. I have seen them at 64 cents in some areas.

I get that. My comment is maybe better worded as “many people in CA have it worse”. I don’t have peak and off peak rates, just the “retail rate”.

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"*Tesla reserves the right in its sole discretion to remove the free Supercharging from your vehicle in the event of excessive charging...*" Seriously...?

It doesn’t warrant the price hike. I’ve had my model 3 for 4 years and have only super charged like 30 times ?

It’s pretty close to the national average so I’m not sure why he’s surprised lol

Little tbh. Idk about them but I drive like 600 miles a week, or 31,000 miles a year.

I started the process Wednesday last week and paid my down payment today with a pickup date of Monday. Wonder if they will honor this

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Looks like this offer is only available in the US…

In the UK they do import some LHD ones every now and then to put on inventory, and my dad was actually very close to buying a Plaid S because it’s great value and he didn’t care that it was LHD, but he didn’t because he couldn’t get insurance (likely due to it being LHD and the general rarity of it in the UK, which is again because it’s LHD). It still pisses me off they don’t do RHD

They just did 1 year free on the Y in Europe, doubt they’d ever do unlimited

Depends on how much driving you do, if you normally supercharge, what your home energy rates are, etc. According to the Tesla app I spent $283 to charge my car this last year, which was entirely hike charging. I did 0 supercharging or charging anywhere else, and I drove about 12,000 miles. So I’d have to have the car for 17.67 years to break even.

Remember that “for life” in this context means the life of the company, not your own.

But you would no longer be able to charge over night and have to drive to a supercharger location and sit there for 15-20min every time. That is some opportunity cost.

No one that can afford a brand new Model S is both not keeping it for 300,000 miles, and also does not have a garage to charge at home. The only exception is if they are using it solely as their work vehicle. Then they might keep it for the 300,000 miles and use the free supercharging more as employees using the car likely won’t have home charging or a simple means to expense home charging back to their employer. The offer is also non-transferable so if you sell/trade in the model S the free supercharging is gone. Put this offer on a model 3 or model y though and you may get a ton of renters or people that live in situations that don’t have home charging as an option to consider Tesla. Previously these folks may have looked at a hybrid but that still costs money to power. The “free gas” of a Tesla with free supercharging may outweigh the inconvenience of not being able to home charge. People that can afford a model S though aren’t purchasing it to save money and only supercharging would be inconvenient to them.

Windows 10 for life was always sus..if your going for life why not call it windows and remove the version.. Windows home, windows pro..  Also it would mean supporting old hardware forever which becomes a major problem..  But both Google and Microsoft have a massive grave site of projects they don't want to support anymore.. Lifetime xyz will always join the grave site because the pay once model is expensive to support ongoing.  Side note windows home should just be given away.. Charge 50 for upgrade to pro or whatever..

There would be some added inconvenience for sure, but it would be doable. I drive past two different supercharger locations on a near daily basis though, so it wouldn’t be that bad. Having the increased range over my Model 3 would mean less frequent charging also.

That sounds miserable. So many hours wasted stuck in a car.

I will bet you anything that it isn’t actually for life or it can be removed at any time

So, it's free as long as you don't abuse it.

That's cuz she's walking out of Marshalls, into Home goods, and then into TJ Maxx.

lol no. Just pulling levers to increase sales.

You know just as much as anyone else, but okay.

Sounds like quite a lot!

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It's pretty obvious based on the charging habits. If your charging habits resembled a ride share worker, they will either cut off the benefit or ask for proof you are not a rideshare driver.

Great for people that road trip a lot or live in an apartment/condo/townhouse.

That’s revenue not costs so probably a fair bit lower but obviously depends on where the charger is and more importantly the electricity rate (which can obviously vary, but over time will probably go down with more solar). Additionally I could see a world in which Tesla says free supercharger for life but only during off peak hours or something like that

It isn't too bad. Almost all highway

I’ve always made the argument, that small downtown America could recover and rejuvenate itself if they start building superchargers along the street at every parking spot. I’d hands down go charge in small town and hit up local businesses for food and drink over some corporate conglomerate any day.

Nice, but any change on the car?

That’s really cool. But I’d rather have a 360/front bumper camera.

Yeah, I'm at ~$200/yr. Not ever going to be worth it for me.

Smart man.

The supercharging benefit doesn’t transfer with sale/trade-in. It says so in the offer details that it cannot be transferred to another vehicle, person, or order. It’s only for the person purchasing a new Model S during the promotion period.

I’d gather that I’ve spent a total of $100 supercharging in the 3 years I’ve owned mine. It might be more if it were free but probably not much.

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Of course it does. Any "lifetime free" things have this disclaimer, or at least they will if their legal council is worth anything.

Your right, they probably wouldn't ask for proof. They would just cut you off.

I live in Southern California. That's just going to work and back home. No vacations, no side trips, no other activities. And the whole point of the electric car is you're more inclined to go on road trips.

Who buys a Model S nowadays anyways? The new Model 3 is like 85% as nice as the Model S in terms of amenities and ride comfort at almost half the price. If you have F U money to spend on an EV then there are lots of more luxurious and longer range sedans than the Model S out there.

in my personal opinion its for the hatch. if the 3 came in a hatch it would be a done deal

Bought mine in January 2013. 140k miles. Tesla is still honoring my free supercharging.

its so the people who buy it dont feel like new prius owners and distinguish themselves as superior to the everyday model 3/y owner

Im in so cal on a tiered plan and the base rate is 14¢ but that goes up and up if you use a lot. there’s various time if use rates and stuff

It was also never a real Microsoft policy, rather something that an engineer said and the "journalisms" circlejerked it around with headlines.

Its 0.74 cents a kwh in San Bruno.

Meanwhile, I keep wondering when I should finally upgrade from my 2015 Model S. Seems like they keep removing features I have now (in the name of "simplifying the product line" or some other nonsense), the only thing they've added that I'd actually want is a bigger battery, and the car doesn't seem to look all that different. Kinda tempted to just keep my current car until it starts to fall apart, unless they introduce something really tempting.

The S is better in every way than a Model 3. The Model 3 is an economy car built as such. Model S is higher tier all the way around.

What happens when they decrease the price? They want to decrease their sales?

It has always said this. That’s a pretty standard clause for “lifetime” offerings, I still have yet to hear of people complaining they lost the lifetime supercharging, and a LOT of people have it.

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That’s always been the case, even for free super charging when you buy your vehicle for a limited time. If you’re gonna be the asshole who leaves your car plugged in when you’re fully charged and it’s busy because you think your charging is free and you won’t incur idle fees then you should have your charging revoked. If you’re driving like 50k miles a year or using your Tesla to power your home (yes you can do it very indirectly), then obviously that’s not normal. I put 12k miles on my car in 6 months during my free supercharging and they didn’t pull my charging. There are numerous posts on the internet of people who drive 20-25k a year on free supercharging and their charging hasn’t been pulled. Legal language always exists because people try to take unfair advantage of a system, not the other way around.

Precondition fully from home and then go to the supercharger. You won’t be in the car long enough for a snack to matter lol.

Super chargers on the street don’t leave you much time to do anything. L2 chargers would though.

Add in the value of your time, as now all your charging has to be at a supercharger if you want free electricity, compared to five feet away in your garage.

Very good point

Well, not everybody wants the 85% car. Some are willing to spend more for a car that's a bit bigger, a bit better looking, a bit longer range, a bit nicer with amenities all around, a power lift gate, and… oh yeah, unlimited free Supercharging, for now! The only sedan I know with longer rated range than the S is the Lucid Air, and it's more expensive and comes with a few question marks about Lucid the company. The S is a safer bet. Other options are from Mercedes, which is competitive but not really better overall, or the BMW which is ugly (to me at least), inefficient and has poor charging speed.

“Promotion subject to change or end at any time. ” lol that’s not free for life, they can change/end it tomorrow.

$5k supercharging for life***

Well they increased the price of the vehicle by $5K so that should be a good starting point lol

At $1.50 p/kWh this past weekend where I live in Europe I’d take that.

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> Side note windows home should just be given away.. Charge 50 for upgrade to pro or whatever.. Especially since pirating activation is so easy a 5 year old can do it, and they seemingly don’t care enough to stop it.

Ah, would that I could also transfer my current FSD as well. I bought in a long time ago. If I could get the free SC and transfer my FSD I would be on it.

I'm confused by the terms, Says you can not put it under your business name if you want free super charging , yet then it states Eligible for $7,500 EV Lease Incentive and Business Tax Credit only... So you can only pick one?

They figured 5k is what they will use is energy in the life of the car of may e 5 years average.

Yeah no, adjustable air suspension, hatch, hatch, and hatch, all aluminum so nothing rusting, more space. did we mention the hatch? and better interior quality and instrument cluster. there's also a hatch in back. I can load in giant dressers or a table and 6 chairs. totally different vehicle, S is the shit. Model 3 is a nice lil car that the last couple of years since the really beefed up the suspension and glass has good comfort now, but they are in a different class for numerous reasons. I really wish they brought back the sunroof in the S, though.

Correct

I have lifetime free supercharging on my Model 3 Performance.

> legal council legal counsel?

Reverse charging a mobile power wall then powering your mini village with it.

Look up the company Tesloop. They bought cars with unlimited supercharging and turned them into a fleet of taxis (essentially) and get free charging from Tesla.

I got an email from Tesla this morning that said you could get the free unlimited supercharging and transfer FSD.

The 3 not having the hatch made me sell mine after only 2 years for a Model Y. This is the correct answer!

You do incur idle fees with free supercharging. it's why you still need a CC# on file.

Nope. I never had to add a credit card with my free charging.

I've got dinged for not having it on file in my account. I have had 3 SC01 cars now, still have an X with it.

> for life Orgs have a way of neutering 'for life' promises, unless some judge holds them accountable. If anyone gets a 'for life' offer, use it as much as reasonably possible as soon as possible, for it may not last as long as advertised. That said, I don't think Tesla is going anywhere. At the same time, I am not confident it will be able to hold marketshare without equaling and even exceeding the competition on multiple measures. V2L, range, and divisive design choices are places the competition can seduce buyers.

That makes me wonder if this would still be SC05, or a new SC code altogether. I don't recall that being in the ToS in the past.

Don’t give them any ideas.

I heard this one before

If that's what you pay for electricity, then it's going to be more expensive to drive an EV than an ICE.

Where has that costs? In UK, EV tariff at home is 0.07kwh, Tesla superchargers are around 0.40kwh and other networks of fast charging the most expensive is around 0.87kwh

What, how?

My house.

Germany?

May I ask where in Europe? Prices seem very high!

When I went to it through my account this morning, it said that the order must be placed "by December 13th, for delivery no later than December 31st." Logging out tonight and clearing cache, it now shows me the same verbiage you use. I wonder why it first said by the 13th, but it makes much more sense now that it has been corrected.

Market spiked. 10.93DKK/kWh, excluding additional charges for power companies and taxes. https://imgur.com/a/dsYxeg9 This is Denmark, [one of the countries in EU with the highest electricity prices](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Electricity_price_statistics#:~:text=Denmark%20\(%E2%82%AC0.37078%20per%20KWh\)).

Netherlands.

To be fair, they need to put that so people don't leave the car plugged in and not pay.

Holy shit I pay $0.11 at home.

that’s bull shit. In the Netherlands we pay +/- €0,40/kWh. If you really pay 1,5 you signed an amazingly bad deal

My calculations indicate that free Supercharging on my current Model S has saved me roughly $950 per year over the past three years. Since our average Tesla ownership duration is 6.5 years and climbing, I’m thinking the free Supercharging is likely worth more to our family than the cost bump.

Variable rate contract with Tibber.

So it depends on what 15 minute interval you’re talking about. You purposely chose the highest number? I mean common. You could’ve just as easily chosen €0,1/kWh for that matter as the price differs every 15 minutes…. So I’ve googled, the highest you paid is 29 cents. Why are you saying such ridiculous things? [source tibbers price](https://tibber.com/nl/stroomprijs)

Sadly not, gasoline is even more expensive @1.8usd/L

Yeah, that. Something twitched in the back of my mind as I was hurriedly typing and replying, but I was being called away so didn't do my typical proof reading.

Why do you prefer the hatch to such an extent vs. a trunk?

Missed this by a week, ugh. Oh well off-peak is .04 per KW here.

Y has never had unlimited supercharging, AFAIK.

Because that’s how high the price can get to, and it’s not getting any cheaper. Obviously at those prices I’d choose to go to the SuperCharger.

no, rough calculation says that it'll be close to twice as expensive to drive a tesla model S if you pay 1.5$/kwh and petrol for 1.8$usd/l Since according to Tesla themselves the base model S consumes 17.5kWh/100km (probably more IRL) And most regular ICE cars do 8litres or less (many go as low as 5l) per 100km

Can you give some examples? I'm genuinely asking. Everyone seems to argue that the Model S is like the cream of the crop when it comes to luxury EV's, but in my eyes they are just built as cheap as possible with shitty materials and even shittier quality control.

Not many 670-1020hp cars do 8l/100km, tbh I can't think of any ICE car that can do that at even 500hp🤔

Maybe he's demonstrating that he's well on his way to the 300k mark. Maybe he's showing how hard it is to get to that mark.

So is it time to quit our jobs and become uber/taxi drivers?

There was a point where I believe the transfer of both FSD and the unlimited supercharging was offered. One of their end of quarter incentives not too long ago. I knew I should have jumped on it.

well the Plaid gets significantly worse kWh/100km and I was referring to the base model S. So even at 670hp there are plenty of ICE cars that are cheaper to drive at the prices that were mentioned before. But HP is not the comparison we were doing before, that's a bit of a straw man argument from you.

Tesla didn’t technically raise the price, the 20% discount expired and customers are facing the original price point that was temporarily reduced. Ultimately they’re looking out for Tesla owners (share Hodler and customers). When you think about it, retaining the $5k premium not only helps company growth, great to show share owners. Plot thinkens... Offering “FREE UNLIMITED Charging”, that not only saves the Tesla owner for the life of the vehicle. it gets even better, that’s no cost to the TESLA because most auto brands are signing charging access contract to charge on TSLA grids… giving you “The EV charging standard”.

Where did you pay $1,50 per kWh?

No. Germany is 40-50 Ct at a supercharger.

Netherlands. It only peaked at around that rate, it’s thankfully not that high all the time. It’s not a good sign though. https://preview.redd.it/qd17r38un17e1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b53829abe20f4b852126dd6d94966b6d25cfb46

But these are peak rates, you need to mention that you may also pay only 11 Ct

My 2017 S with free charging disproves your last point anyway.

2017 S in the same situation. I'm holding out until they do steer by wire at least. And maybe stalks? Imagine the luxury. My current car also has a sunroof. Better than anything they offer today.

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> I never had to add a credit card with my free charging. Some years ago we did not have a card on the account. The system still allowed the non-free Model 3 to charge, but only once. As soon as the system realized it could not charge a card, it set up a block preventing the Model 3 from Supercharging again until the debt was paid by adding a current card. I expect the same would happen to a car with free Supercharging that had unpaid idle fees associated with the VIN. Block upon determining that billed amounts were not collected.

It's not a straw man. It's simply to make a fair comparison. Otherwise, we can compare with a Lupo 3L that does 33km/l, and then nothing makes sense. You have to compare apples to apples. Otherwise the whole basis for comparison is out the window.

There’s just much more space

I’m not sure what the system is exactly or if it’s different for a super charging promotion vs free for life. I bought two model 3’s 3 years apart, most recently a 2023 model, and both had free supercharging for 6 months. Neither required me to add a credit card. If I racked up a bunch of idle fees I’m sure they’d make me clear those up the second I tried to supercharge after my free charging ended but I did idle my car a few times when I first got my first Tesla without knowing better and I didn’t get charged. Probably for excessive only or maybe they have a couple forgivenesses for new vehicles.

Even then, like I said comparing base model with 670hp to competitors like BMW etc. you still are paying less. Idk why I even went on since the basis of this conversation was absurd to start with. But it definitely is a strawman because you are comparing only one aspect of the car, what about range? What about amenities? What about audio quality? Build quality? etc etc. Car journalists don't compare the model S to 800+ HP ICE cars. They are compared to other comfy luxurious, usually big displacement ICE cars.

Yeah, I sometimes like to list out the features I have that the current cars lack (or at least make no mention of): * Retractable sun-roof * Rear-facing child seats * 80A capable L2 charging * No weird UFO noises when driving in parking lots (okay, this is regulatory, but still) * Sirius XM satellite radio * Bigger frunk (though its due to lack of a fancy air filter, not as big as the pre-dual-motor cars) * Actual steering wheel (thankfully this is an option again) * Front-facing radar (though what crazy AP/FSD related hardware they're trying seems to vary by quarter) I'll admit that I don't use all those things every day, or even that often, but its still nice to have them once in a while. And what exactly do I get in exchange for giving all that up? A bigger battery, newer AP/FSD hardware that's more prone to malfunction, and I'm not entirely sure what else. Now I have done a few post-purchase upgrades that have massively helped with the day-to-day usability of the car. I upgraded the cellular radio from 3G to LTE (bought my car like a month before that became standard), and I upgraded the MCU from v1 to v2. During my first few years with the car, like 90% of my gripes were quirks with MCU1, so the MCU2 upgrade really did solve a lot of those pain points.

Yeah mcu upgrade here too. It was getting unusable without it.

Idle fees only apply after 5 minutes of not charging, and only when the station is reporting itself as at least 50% full. There may be other unpublished grace factors, but IDK for sure.

$1.5/kWh? What the hell? Mine is under $0.07/kWh

No, I don’t. I already said on my original post that the prospect of $5,000 for lifetime unlimited supercharging would be an amazing deal for us considering our recent spike in rates this past weekend. Of course, they would never offer this to Europeans - to be honest I’d be happy with paying €10,000 for a lifetime of supercharging.

“Tesla reserves the right in its sole discretion to remove the free Supercharging from your vehicle in the event of excessive charging or unpaid fees related to Supercharging.” Their lawyers were prepared this time. I wonder how they define “excessive” charging. Free supercharging for the lifetime of the vehicle is cool though.

My guess is they don’t have the right legal language in the old lifetime charging agreements. This time they are prepared

I put like 20k miles on my new Model 3 (all supercharging) when they did free supercharging this year and never heard anything about it.

When was the last time they offered unlimited supercharging for a Model S?

Ouch.... Wow

Yep. No way that promise ever gets broken.

1 year ago, transfer of your old free supercharging

Which EV has longer range than the S and is the same performance at around the same price?

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Jesus. I drive 1000 a month and feel nasty

If they are offering this on the Model S, they will offer it on the CT next

Tesla is hoping to keep Model S sales steady without having to lower the price. This and low financing or leases are the attempts to do this. Lowering the sale price hurts resale too much.

Q4 2023 https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-offering-free-lifetime-supercharging-transfer-on-new-model-s-x-y-orders/ Extended into Q1 2024 https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-brings-back-free-unlimited-supercharging-transfer-offer/ Why does nobody remember this?

They did.

Horsepower junkies who want that 1.99s 0-60...

They won’t. Orders placed after Dec 13. Your car is $5k cheaper

When did you purchase?

June 2018

And many small towns have embraced this, especially in areas devoid of any DCFC infrastructure for hours

at superchargers? it’s 3x mine but around what superchargers cost

He's ragebaiting, it's a variable energy contract and most of the time it's between 0,20 - 0,40 € per kWh. There's even been times where you get paid (negative costs) to consume electricity. Overall I wouldn't recommend one of these variable electricity contracts. A recent study showed that they're not worth it for the vast majority of people.

Because this wasn't a straight up "get unlimited supercharging when you buy" deal. You had to be a legacy S or X owner with unlimited already.

Because that was the day you needed to order for delivery to be by the end of the year. Has nothing to do with supercharging.

I get it, $5,000 raise in cost + excessive charging would get you off the deal. But I still have my 2014 and I’m hoping there’s another offer coming where you can transfer your unlimited supercharge to a new Tesla, which I’m interested in Model Y Juniper.

I spend $2.2k USD per year supercharging. I’ve been on a non-stop roadtrip for almost 3 years. If they brought this deal to the Model X, it would be an instant purchase for me.

$0.0878 CAD

Sales must be TANKING!!!

That’s 100% on me. I thought this was an offer for transfer not just a straight up purchase.

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lmao this completely discounts how much more kWh/100km you will consume if you're gunning it in a plaid and using that 1020hp. Misha Charoudin did a lap of the nürburgring touristenfahrten, its 20.8km. The battery started at 95%, it was 53% just 8 minutes later. He also had traffic at various points so the car wasn't even going full tilt for the whole lap. So 42kWh to go 20.8km gives approximately 200kWh/100km. Efficiency is going to be relative to driving style, the max potential output of the engine has very little bearing to be honest and is just a way too simple way at looking at this. Gearing, driving style, tyre setup, drag co-efficient, all these factors influence efficiency more than how powerful the engine has the potential to be. edit: an m5 cs uses approx 10 litres on a lap of the same track, which comes to around 18 dollars for this guy, the plaid lap, at his electricity cost would be 63 dollars. So...yeah.

Sør-Norge?

1,50 per KwH??? Where in Europe do you live??? O\_O

It was a spike. Variable rate contract. Everyone missing the “this past weekend” part and jumping in.

The Model Y also has the 40-20-40 rear seat setup, which is great if you ever have to carry anything long. It baffles me that Tesla ignores that feature on their other vehicles.

where do you live in Europe?

Netherlands. It was just a spike last weekend. It’s not constantly that price. If it was I’d move to another country.

They don't care because it comes on every new PC and companies pay the licensing fee. Sure the 1-2% of us that build our own PCs can pirate it or buy a 5$ key for windows pro off the internet... According to statistica within the US, 66 million new pre-made PC/laptops were purchased. 66 million OEM computers got sold at 50$ a piece... that's a third of a billion in the US alone. Global cap is probably around 1.5 Billion in OEM keys annually. So no, they don't care about the handful of people getting around it.

679-1020 hp on single speed.

Why only S and not on the X? Is that incoming?

Where in europe is 1 kwh 1.5 dollar?

I just bought a brand new model S plaid on Christmas Eve and don't have a charger in my garage and probably won't install one. I live in a condo and though I do have reserved underground parking, the HOA wants $6K to install a charger. Since I have 30 superchargers within a five minute walk and free supercharging for life of car, I probably won't bother installing one. I definitely won't drive 300K miles with it as it is only a seasonal car for me.

"0.07kwh", what does that mean? Do you mean you pay 0.07 pounds per kWh?

I thought is obvious but here it is: 7p/KWh https://octopus.energy/smart/intelligent-octopus-go/

Citation on the "quieter" claim? Still doesn't matter since you're saying it's only if you disable default features, but still curious. I've been looking for a source that tests cabin noise levels in a remotely scientific way. Do you have one?

Lol love this. People overlook the hatch. I get strange looks when I cite that as a reason I keep my S while having other models. I can throw anything in it! I've literally hauled a couch in my S. Bikes, dressers, moved cross country..

I’m near CA is take it I don’t know what some of these people are smoking. Free super charging for life is a hudge deal. Not everyone has a house or their own charger. So go ahead and call me stupid for getting a Tesla while living in an apt. I just saved so much on gas this first year it was insane hahaha. Friends spending hundreds a week on gas sometimes. I never spent over 50. Some of these chargers like electrify or loop have some outrages prices.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t have an ev. 0.11 is more expensive then gas?

You can’t tell someone what time they can chose to charge. Some people can only charge at the most expensive time. Therefore that’s what they pay. 7/10 no one is lying the cheaper price as most times they put those cheaper times in the time slots that not many people use. They hike the prices when everyone has to charge before and after work. Go do some more research sit

Most people only charge in peak hours

Because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s guessing like the rest of us lol

If the s was cheaper everyone would buy it.

Wow what a way to place a bet. Say something never ending like you just did. “They don’t honor their life time contracts. No one days” Guy from 8 years ago proves you wrong and your response is there’s still time left to prove your right ? I mean just for common sense if he gets 10 years free charging for the car I doubt he’d care to much if it was removed lol. Secondly there are other cars that you can buy if you just googled it with free charging… and it’s been years my guy. So I guess you can @ us in $ more years if people start reporting their lifetime charging being taken away then.

I save just under 4k a year with free supercharging on my 2015 S

Does anyone know if there is an update to it?