should i avoid tesla now for next car while autopilot is abandoned?

Just buy last years lol

$99/month is not in your budget but the car is?

Buy a used one

Yes. When financing the 99 adds like 1/5 or so extra which is really too much.

depends, ask yourself how valuable that feature is to you. Otherwise its still a very good car regardless of it.

Just buy a used one. The used ones are a decent deal right now, but Tesla used didn't lose as much value as others because Tesla didn't lower prices after the tax change.

$99 can still be a lot to people. I, for one, think it’s way too much, especially if all I wanted was autopilot.

Download FSD Hunter app. Plenty of reasonably priced cars with full FSD license included

it’s totally not for like 90% of the Tesla drivers.

No you dont get it. Im interested in autopilot but this sub made me think its bad vs adaptive cruise control. Seems like trsla abandoned it so no more updates.

That was going to be my suggestion. Used might also leave some extra budget for FSD.

Ha, have you quoted insurance if $99 is out of your budget?

I plan to own a car for at least 10 years. $99/mo is about $12k over that time. If I only care for the features of basic autopilot (and not FSD), then yeah, $99/mo is quite a lot

comma.ai - better autopilot for 1000 bucks.

Why? This is so dumb. You can afford $50k but not $99 month? You people have lost your damn minds!!

As I understand it, they will still come with TACC, traffic aware cruise control, just not Autosteer, which was the lane keeping/steering part of Autopilot. So if you only care about speed control, no reason to avoid buying a new Tesla.

$99 a month for a subscription that never ends. I paid for my M3P in cash and can afford the 99$ a month but seeing the $100 a month leave my account for something I don’t even own hurts me in a certain type of way psychologically. Them discontinuing autopilot is certainly something that will make me keep my current Tesla for longer.

Yeah I’ve tried FSD a few times and I prefer autopilot. I think FSD is really cool and fun to try out as a modern technology, but I don’t like giving up total control, especially when it comes to routes not being more customizable. I also take driving way too seriously and get obsessive over doing everything as perfect as possible and FSD pisses me off too much. I like autopilot because it just stays in the lane and doesn’t hit the car in front of me. Autopilot was one of the top reasons I wanted a Tesla, if I can’t get it then I’ll get it from another car.

Just a bit scared of phantom brakes and issues related to it being older trained software vs fsd.

New teslas won’t have autopilot? Or they just won’t get updated software for it? Autopilot is the reason I have my Tesla. I disabled the fsd as I don’t like it

Not everyone likes a subscription.

You can get it on Tesla?

Autosteer is THE reason I have my Tesla. No a fan of FSD

But there's a big difference in keeping distance smoothly and braking aggresive/out of nowwhere etc. not crashing to the car in ftont is the least i expect haha

the tesla has a great adaptive cruise control. its all i use on mine, the advanced driving shit is so overhyped. its ok at best, youre not missing anything

Basic autopilot is all I use but FSD was cool. You can switch between them all on the dashboard you’re not tied to one or the other.

The thing I like about autopilot is it basically has two rules. Stay in the lane, don’t hit the car in front of you. I use it on my commute everyday and I don’t usually have any issues. Any issues that happen are expected because of the consistent rule for the software. FSD is basically treating every drive as its own experience and reacts to everything differently every time because it doesn’t have specific and consistent rules to follow. I feel way more on edge and like I have to supervise so much more on FSD. When I’m commuting to work on autopilot listen to a podcast I’m able to take in everything they are saying on the podcast, with FSD I hardly pay attention to the podcast because FSD keeps me on high alert the whole time. FSD is not relaxing and takes way more work than autopilot, and it doesn’t all of that just so it can make a bunch of pointless lane changes that usually cause me to lose ground in traffic, or take stupid routes that don’t make sense. I never know what FSD is going to do but I always know what autopilot is going to do. And I’m supposed to pay $100 a month for FSD? No thanks!

I feel that same way with FSD and on top of that it doesn’t some really sketchy lane changes way to close to clipping the car in front of me. With autopilot I just set it to 5 car distances, I know exactly where on my commute traffic comes to a hard stop so I just disengage right before that and let regen slow down. Also, I can have tape over my camera with autopilot so I can spend more than 3 seconds looking at my music player to pick a song while also being able to use both eyes to pay attention to traffic. FSD is just way more tedious and more work for me, paying $100 a month for it makes no sense for my commutes, especially on HW3.

So, this is the problem with auto pilot, it basically sucks. It is stuck in 2023 and hasn’t seen a major upgrade since. It still does phantom braking, wanders around in the lane, shuts off if you change lanes. Comparing it to FSD is like comparing a bicycle to a sport motorcycle. The only real use I’ve found for it is rush hour stop and go. Reddit is losing its mind over it being pulled is what Reddit does. It desperately needs to be updated. I next to never use it because it’s brain damaged and FSD isn’t worth $100/ month to me. I just drive around like some caveman.

One might be able to afford getting extorted but who would choose it on purpose? My cousin texted me this week, excited about the new $60K Cybertruck trim. After I told him he wouldn’t get autopilot like his Model Y he then asked if he could buy FSD outright for $8K, not anymore and the sale is lost.

Crazy way to look at it. While autopilot isn’t teslas best of the best. It’s miles ahead of any cars TACC. I use autopilot for 95% + of my driving. Teslas normal TACC is terrible and autopilot is miles ahead of that

Wat.. who said anything about giving full control? It’s still supervised FSD, and it has gotten really good. I assume you are still biased on old news and haven’t tried the recently updated FSD. Do yourself a favor and book a test drive and test it before knocking it Edit: I own FSD on Hw3 and have no complaints if you pay attention to the road when it is active

New Teslas still have TACC (traffic-aware cruise control). You can set a speed and the vehicle will maintain it unless a slower vehicle is in front of you. Older Teslas also have Autosteer, which is a lane keeping feature. You could have both TACC + the car stayed in the lane. If you want Autopilot (TACC + Autosteer), then buy a Tesla from before 2026-01-23. If you only care about TACC, then buy any Tesla.

I might be off the mark here. I got a 2018 MS100D with 'enhanced autopilot'. I use it for all my highway and country road driving. I dropped 20K on my S it had 60k miles on it I've put another 25+k miles on it. I get free charging at work. I've had to do almost 0 maintenance on it (brought it into tesla for basic PM, filters ,12 v ect). It's always a roll of the dice to buy used but I'd highly recommend getting a used MS with enhanced autopilot. Such a nice car for the money.

I cannot control the routes it takes, it often doesn’t even show my preferred route and when I compare to Apple Maps it’s not like there’s bad traffic. I cannot tell it to do minimal lane changes anymore. The newest version which i dint have access to does not allow the supervisor to control maximum speed. Thats giving over full control. If i have to intervene to change any of that stuff then id rather just do autopilot.

Autopilot = TACC (traffic-aware cruise control) + Autosteer (lane keeping) As of around 2026-01-23, new Teslas no longer have Autosteer. They only come with TACC. As far as I can tell, Tesla has retired the Autopilot name. If you look on their website, new cars say they come with TACC and older used cars say they come with TACC + Autosteer. There is no mention of Autopilot anymore.

I've been using FSD and just for the heck of it tried regular autopilot (TACC and autosteer) and learned very quickly I could only set the speed to a MAX of 5 over the limit. It would not let me go any higher which every other car I've owned would. Makes it pretty much worthless in a lot of cases.

I’m just saying that you can get the best of both worlds. There are quite a few dealers that are selling teslas with full lifetime FSD that don’t realize that the car includes it. I read about it and didn’t think that was the case until I started shopping around (with the help of the app) and realized there were quite a few out there that didn’t realize the car included FSD. It’s super easy to go between FSD and autopilot

I’ll down once for adaptive cruise and twice for autosteer. I use adaptive cruise all the time and it works perfectly. For autosteer , it just keeps you in the same lane and follows the road. It won’t change lanes and doesn’t do turn by turn or take exits (like fsd would).