End FSD Sub for 1mo?

I won't subscribe this month. Boom. I mean, I wasn't going to anyway, but I still won't.

I only subscribe if I have a long road trip coming up. $49 would be a much more reasonable option but with Musk’s decision making it sounds like it’s going up instead

😂

Keep on dreaming! Many people already paid $8k.

$9.99 would attract even more subscribers!

Tesla has considerably more data and scenarios than you on what will maximize margins and revenue.

I'm sure I'm the odd one out but I think it's priced fairly now. Cheaper is better of course but my stats showing I use it about half of my drives seems to suggest I'm getting value.

If tesla allows the FSD to be attached to the account and not the car AND drops the price to 4K I might be in lol.

Trash on Hw3. 49.99 sounds more fair

that’s correct. my hope is that we can have the price reduced based on lack of demand before it begins increasing.

i agree but i’m not sure it’s plausible in the grand scheme for Tesla

demand or a lack thereof directly determines market value. that’s rule #1.

fair point and i think those people got unfortunately swindled

i use FSD everywhere myself but being that so many people on my previous post mentioned cost, i felt we could possibly gain some traction in regards to price reduction.

10, 12 and even 15k at one point. That’s crazy to think about now only a few years later

It is so very worth 8000 to me. I have a long commute to work everyday and being able to relax on my commute is very valuable to me.

I'm using it at 95% of all of my drives. I pull out left the garage and park in myself but otherwise it is all FSD from there. I understand that not everybody is in the financial position to pay $100 a month but in terms of value I think this is great value.

Ok well; you’re out because you no longer can buy full self driving. You missed that boat.

i am an avid user myself and $8,000 is still a ridiculous amount of money for FSD imo. at $99/mo, over the course of 4yrs of ownership, you only pay $4,752.. that’s nearly half of what you paid. the average Tesla owner only keeps the vehicle for ~4yrs, some even less than that..

You know there is a lack of demand?

I canceled for about a week, it sucked not having it so I resubscribed last night

49.99 and throw in premium connectivity

I cancelled mine a few days ago. I no longer drive Uber and don’t have any roadtrips coming up so AP is fine for now. I do like it. It performs well. But I can do a lot with $100 every month.

Agreed, $8K was a fair price. On all brands of cars people spend thousands more to get tech upgrades, different color choices, more motors, etc. The $8k was reasonable. So is the $99/month.

As I mentioned before, given how the EV market is evolving, Tesla will eventually have to lower FSD subscription pricing possibly to around $49.99/month, and maybe even as low as $19.99/month down the line.


The truck is only 59k for 10 days from what I’ve read. The ceo isn’t going to get to 1T NW on the backs of discounted FSD. Feel lucky they haven’t raised it on you yet, peasant!

I won't either lol. Already with you.

The more it increases the less likely I am to subscribe

It’ll only be a matter of time before they charge you $20 for one time or 2 hours worth of use lol

You are clearly more capable with your $100 than I am, haha :) I go to Costco to get a hotdog and bam end up walking out of there with a receipt for $150-200.

You used FSD while Ubering?

Sigh…me too. Perhaps it’s just my old brain thinking it’s a lot of money when it’s basically only $20 more than dinner out with my wife.

Constantly. It was so great. Made the couple times a month I did it so much less stressful. And the passengers always got a kick out of it.

12.6.4 in my car is so terrifying, jerky and unpredictable that I would instantly get 1-stars and absolutely zero tips 😂

Grok says less than 4% of Tesla owners have an FSD subscription (not counting those who purchased it outright), so I don't think this is going to move the needle much.

I cancelled once to save a few weeks and missed the window for that main update, my GF got it a month or two before, so aggravating lol. Nope I’m keeping mine and will never turn it off. It’s a $100 and you just need to build it in to your payment or annual expenses. If they had bundled with a lease or finance payment then I think it would not be as much of an issue. Personally it’s my reason for driving the car so it is what it is. I do think it will go down at scale or be built into the car eventually, like a base model and one with FSD for a premium price. Either it’s worth it or not, that’s the decision. Also my insurance is $125 less than it would be with any other carrier due to my 100 safety score, so it’s technically free for me.

Might be an unpopular opinion. But it’s the best $100 I spend a month. I’m 99% on FSD since v14.2 and it works close to flawless here in the bay area. The only reason I find it hard to move to more luxurious more comfortable cars is lack of FSD equivalent features in them.

Wow. Mine is smooth as butter. Better than when I drive tbh.

if only 4% are subbed and a vast majority unsubs, thus decreasing that already small number, i would politely beg to differ…

I’m still pissed about paying monthly for full self driving and then getting locked out of it for a week. When I had a mobile tech out to check on another issue, I asked him about it. He looked at my interior camera and said your camera is misaligned from the factory. He realigned the camera and then had zero strikes. I contacted Tesla about it and got zero satisfaction. My experience has been zero help from Tesla on a problem they caused. This was the same time everyone else got a free month for the holidays and I paid for it and still couldn’t use it.

lol..true. he said the price will fluctuate based on demand after 10 days.. that could be another reduction.. the more we give, the more they take.. if we take a stand, even a small one, it reminds them that we the consumers ultimately determine market value.. CT is a prime example imo

Yeah, it might not be so bad if I wasn’t in a HW3 car paying the same price for a much less capable version of FSD.

Tesla’s customer service is somehow in the dumps even though they claim to be a customer-forward company.. the more we give, the more they take.. the less we tolerate, the more they are driven to change

it should just come with the car. It wasn’t an option on any other make, does auto makers just include the cruise control and that’s really all it is cruise control. Because if you have to supervise it then you’re basically driving the car.

I’m with you. No! Subscription for you Elon. Let me know when it’s $9.99/month. It’s just not worth anything more to me.

I unsubscribe and give that reason every time. I only subscribe when taking a trip to an unfamiliar area where having FSD is quite helpful, even with its occasional mess ups. Yeah, I’d just stay subscribed all the time if it was $50/mo. Note, I have a HW3 vehicle with version 12.6.4. It’s almost wrecked me a couple of times in Atlanta traffic, each time in heavy fast moving traffic that comes to a quick stop at night.

i agree but unfortunately that would go against Tesla’s nickel and diming, max profit framework

i’m on HW3 also but i don’t have much of an issue with the latest version personally..

It's 1.1 million cars with FSD with 30% being subscription.  That's roughly 12% of all Tesla's sold actively paying or already paid for the software.

Then I would have to… drive myself? Ewww!

I would pay $200 per month min for this right now, you are crazy

temporary sacrifice for a better future.. great concept, actually


let’s just include it with the premium connectivity

30 percent of 12% is... Less than 4%.

It seems disingenuous to not include the people who paid up front.  Many of them stomached paying more ($8-15k) than anyone with a subscription will.  I bet a huge portion of those who paid up front would also be subscribers if paying up front wasn't an option to them.

Even at $150/month it's well worth it to me. Also, tech like FSD is incredibly expensive to develop, and companies need to make some profit so they can continue improving their products.

Whenever I buy FSD sub the reason I cancel is TOO EXPENSIVE, so far they don’t get it. Right now they won’t for sure as Elon thinks it’s a steal at $99

I love that idea since I get free premium connectivity for life!

Yeah, it’s amazing in my car. It’s really nice to just watch a show on my way to work lol

I’m with you! Then again, I do now pay $50/mo because I have EAP. Still won’t keep it all the time but nice when I need it for a road trip.

God I hope someone overtakes Tesla. Fkers acting like comcast

I wasn't trying to be disingenuous. If the whole purpose is to try and get attention from Tesla by unsubscribing, only the less than 4% of owners who subscribe can participate. I definitely wasn't trying to minimize the number of people who have FSD or how good it is. I'm one of the people who thought I'd only subscribe for a couple months and yet I'm still subscribed because I like it.

I don't think there's any harm in trying. I just don't feel like there will be a significant enough financial impact. But don't let me discourage you. I appreciated your post.

They only have a 12% uptake rate (I think that was the number, I apologize if I'm off). It doesn't require an economic degree to know that the status quo has to change for him to hit his 10m subscribers. It either has to be the new Malibu Stacy (she's got a new hat!) or it's got to be so cheap people will subscribe without thinking it's costing too much. Tesla has but one thing that's keeping the Chinese from obliterating them in every market they compete - a feature set you can't get anywhere else. But that lead is RAPIDLY shrinking. This whole "the price is going to go up" narrative to me is complete BS. They'll figure out unsupervised FSD and charge a higher price for that. But for FSD Supervised, they'll leave it alone and most likely drop the price to get people hooked with "well it's already so convenient, what's another $40/month to be able to sleep on my hour long commute to/from work each day?" Elon's no dummy, he knows he has to get to 10m subs somehow. He knows the Cybercab is going to play a huge part in that (because you're not buying one without paying for Unsupervised FSD). But he also knows that to hit that 10m mark, he's got to convert a lot more than 12% of buyers and do it QUICKLY before companies from China or even homegrown rivals like Rivian also figure out Unsupervised FSD and tilt the status quo away from Tesla forever.

Let me know what month so that everyone cancels at the same time.

Ahh yes, my bad for misinterpreting.  Flu brain.  Yea the protest would be useless.

Sorry that you've had the flu. That's horrible stuff. You and I agree on the probable impact. OP feels that, given the low percentage of subscribers, it'll be more noticeable. I guess it depends on how hard that figure is being watched. OP could be right, given the move to make FSD subscription only. I guess we wait and see.

It lets you do that?? Last time I had it, it wouldn't let me look away from the road long enough to change so songs on my phone.

Very low-intelligence post. Yes, obviously when the price of a product is lower, that increases the quantity demanded of that product. This is Economics 101, and every company understands that. No, creating a Reddit "protest" post doesn't change anything about the economic dynamics here.

Keep $99/month but add $999/year and I’ll pay.

Got a problem? A protest will obviously solve it.

Jesus Christ...

I’m down, how do I send that feedback?

Even before seeing this thread, I actually did exactly that couple weeks ago and cancelled fsd due to being too expensive.

Looks like FSD for HW3 actually is $49.

Hope you don't total your car tho

Imagine if they paid you for FSD, even better!

You think the 100 people interacting with this post is the vast majority of the 4%?

I used to avoid getting FSD. I still do, but I used to, too.

Every version has gotten worse since upgrading to 14. Others swear by it but for me, it keeps to very weird speeds on the high way (regardless of speed profile), it can’t keep the center of the lane to the point it will keep going over large drain holes on the corners of the road, and don’t get me started on the navigation that wants to take the longest route when it previously just went straight. Why tf would I continue to pay $99 a month for this travesty?! I’ll gladly drive myself and avoid the headache and frustrations.

$499 for 12 months $100 per month People would bite

Same. I could never go to another car that didn't have FSD again and I've only had my Tesla for 6 months.

I think your hardware matters too. I use my 24MY HW4 with Uber non stop everyday and noone can even tell I'm not driving. (I fake driver so people don't get uncomfortable) I'm looking to get out of Uber though because it's put a real toll on the car that kinda doesn't make it worth it. Unfortunately I was a graphic designer in print ads a long time ago. I'm now a 45 year old dude with no real skills and a wife and 2 kids 😭

Nvidia just dropped an open source self driving engine and world model builder. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/solutions/autonomous-vehicles/alpamayo/ Give it 2-5 years and every car manufacturer will have equivalents and competition will drive down price.

Definitely enticing.. but that’s a lot to fork over at once

You can just mount your phone so that you’re looking at the road and phone at the same time

I've read that the reason they keep the price high is because they want quality users who they can get quality information from. Not sure what that means. Are people who pay for FSD more diligent in reporting problems? Do people who pay for FSD have more interesting driving patterns? Maybe if it's too inexpensive it will be too much for their Data centers to handle with all the data crunching it has to do.

The version, too... I have HW3 on my Model S and it was great 95% of the time (and totally scary 5%) with the previous version, so I was excited to get a rare update to 12.6.4... And now it's totally unusable and terrifying. And Tesla doesn't allow downgrades, so... Stuck with an unusable FSD that I paid almost 5 figures for. Sucks.

You mount your phone to your windshield straight ahead and watch shows while on FSD?

Phone is just above the steering wheel sort of, it’s not perfect if I stare at the phone it might bug me but can typically glance at it.

You have Enhanced Autopilot.

I refuse to subscribe to FSD _at all_ until HW3 resumes getting updates. There is no other subscription software that doesn't get regular updates of some kind. I'm skeptical we'll see v14 Lite on time. And even then you're paying the same price for an inferior version compared to HW4 vehicles.

At least satellite imagery

I believe the comment is sarcasm

You’re not getting premium connectivity. Tesla pays AT&T LTE connection for that and I doubt they make much money on a <$10/month cellular service to begin with anyway. They have leeway on FSD prices not connectivity.

it asks for a reason for cancelling when you cancel your sub 👍🏼

this month, this week 🤞🏼😂

I am fine with that personally, instant sub for me for a year.

i mean, yea.. richest man in the world..

Rivian autonomy seems close in capabilities on the highway at least. Not a Tesla owner but I want my next car to have high levels of autonomy and that's on my radar

You might get your wish $69 for supervised or $142.0 for unsupervised would be such an Elon thing to do

Lots of old people pay their bills for the year in January when the dividends come in Mortgage, water, electricity and any services So much easier than doing it every month

Because his compensation package is directly tied to FSD earnings. He won’t change until he feels the pinch.

I’m canceling my FSD this coming month. Mainly because I left my previous job that payed well enough for me to get FSD but I’ll list too expensive as a reason… it’s not untrue

Lots of cheapskate on here



Damn thats cheap, it’s like $400-500 every two weeks for groceries for me and the wife and a tiny 2yo.

Gah, i miss the days of doing real design work. im 35, also professionally trained graphic designer. I never thought back then i’d miss the many monthlong client print projects with the huge team and each person tackling different aspects. Now turnaround times seems to have shifted to one person doing the entire job and only having couple days to do it, a week if you are lucky. Im expected to do every part of the process it seems. I had to shift into coding and websites to really make any meaningful improvements to my income. My 2026 MY AWD is my first ev/Tesla. What an awesome car. FSD HW4 with v14 has been phenomenal and very rarely makes mistakes. if it does something weird it is always minor and usually around it making wrong turns or not merging aggressively enough to be able to get over. I also have over 5k miles on this new version and have done two 15+ hour roadtrips 100% on FSD which was MAGICAL (and no one else seems to care it can do that now).

Knowing musk, they would make it $690 for 12 months lmao

they know price is limiting factor and they monitor how many people actually subscribe. They also don’t care unless it drops really low for every month. They think as FSD improves, more people will subscribe

I'll join in mainly because I'd never pay $99/m for it in the first place🤣

Use one to subsidise the other

im cheapskates i dont even sub premium conn for 9.99 hahah forget fsd. i didnt even use it when it was free

RIP Mitch Hedberg

Great idea. 49$ a month wouldn’t think about it but $99/mo it’s my biggest monthly sub.

I was thinking if everybody canceled he would increase the price of from 100 to 150 every month, just because we all stuck together.

It is a lot of money their nickel and diming us for everything. Soon heated seats and heated steering wheels will be extra.

It's possible they might lock us into the $100 a month for existing customers. If we ever cancel it might go up to 150 or 200.00 I just got my model S so I'm paying for it it pretty much just drive it back and forth to work short distance I'm sure I'm going to cancel soon I'll get sick of it shortly and won't want to spend the money

Why wouldn't people cancel? It's a pretty good value for 99 even tho I don't have Tesla, and would have never paid 8 grand for it, but at 100 bucks, not bad to have that thing drive itself. I personally enjoy driving, but in traffic hour it would be a blessing.

I only drive my car 5 miles to work everyday. If I had a long commute I would buy it.

5-6 miles is just enough to wake up lol. I think fsd is worth, in high traffic areas to offload the shitty part of driving during rush or commutes over daily 10-15 miles. Because for contrast, I sometimes go near the mountains just to drive, bec it can be fun vs it can be annoying depending on the situation of the drive. But yea, just my thoughts!

I'd pay 99 per month if it came with premium connectivity and a few complimentary streaming services that I could also use at home... (Obviously better suited for when they eventually let you watch media while the car is driving)

Ah, yes. That explains it.

I didn't subscribe this month, or any other month...because of solidarity, right? Right.

Bought mine 🤷

Canceled mine, brothers and sisters let us vote with our dollar. $49.99 a month or bust.

I'm canceling mine soon. My old commute was an hour each way, but my new job's only 20 minutes. $100 a month isn't worth it, especially with the terrible GPS, no speed control, and bad lane changes. Plus, I have a performance model, so it's actually fun to drive. I get bored babysitting FSD.

It's literally the cheaper than a night out with the wife. Isn't he at 1.1m subscribers at the current price? That's a third of the fleet subbed. Then you have the ones that own it. $49 dollars is giving it away.

$24.99 subscription cost would help Elon get to one of his targets. I don't remember if it's 1 million FSD subscriptions or what.

I’d save this for a future increase.

I hate subscriptions and already paid mine when it cost 10k and can’t even use it fully because of HW3 and my car is only 3years old so I am not ready to trade in.

Wow, I’m not sure if you’re being obtuse or not, but the entire post seemed to be crafted to create the illusion of low demand and hopefully reduce costs. Even though the average wealthy person probably won’t be interested in participating, the idea is there.

I absolutely detest subscriptions because they always increase over time. I prefer to pay cash in full and be done with it. I paid cash for every car I have ever purchased and I’ve owned a lot of cars. Mostly new cars. $49 would be easier to swallow and there should never be a price increase for existing customers. Pretty sure Tesla and Elon have enough money already. But I love my PURCHASED FSD. If FSD requires any subscription then I have purchased my first and last Tesla. Other manufacturers have nicer EV’s now with more range also and don’t charge subscriptions. Their FSD will soon be as good or better than Tesla’s.

great point, man! i also paid in full for my Tesla.

No thanks, it was the best $8,000 I ever invested!

$10 a month for a car that you step in and sit back while it safely drives you to every destination? Worth a lot more than that in my opinion. Love my robotaxi!! But I do have paid FSD so there's that..

All the people here complaining spend far more than $100/mo for less stuff and same for premium connectivity, you will never find a phone company that give your internet for $10/mo unlimited . Few year back when I had gps remotely start the sim was $2.50/mo for 200 mb which was enough for the remote start and then it raise to $5/mo for the same. My gf at the time had a phone service with 5gb/mo high speed data for $15/mo and that data will get suck up in 7-10 days, was $5 for extra 1gb. I’m sure premium use more data than that, next FSD is and option if you didn’t want it you will not be complaining about the price, since it’s not mandatory I don’t thing Tesla gives a rat behind what you want them to charge, it’s like telling the DMV drivers license or state ID should NEVER expire .. You know what’s overpriced car insurance you drive for 20 years pay hundreds per month never crash, then come idiot rear end you and boom your policy goes up and ain’t sh*t you can do about it

Hot take, it's probably worth 99,- as it's basically a personal driver I hate paying that and as a Dutchman I much rather pay cash at once, but if you keep a Car for 5 years it's actually cheaper Still rather pay in full like I did for my car

I do think for HW3 it should be a lower price. If they get FSD on HW3 to perform close to FSD 14 or at least have some of the features, then it makes a lot more sense to have a $100 price tag, but right now with the state of HW3 and how left out HW3 owners feel, then it really doesn’t make sense to pay that price.

Nope

There already is a lack of existing demand. A price adjustment is going to come sooner or later.

They have like 300k active subscribers and the growth has been anemic despite it getting considerably better.

I'll never rent or own it. Bought a MY Juniper for the thrill of driving myself.

I’m such a simp for FSD. I live in a major city and literally use it everywhere except for getting out of the alley behind my house… I work odd hours (24 hr shifts) and it really changes my quality of life to throw on FSD after a long shift or put on FSD while the coffee is still kicking in before a shift…