FSD makes me feel like a thief.
San Rafael. Those were all illegal road maneuvers. Did you report it?
I reported it immediately afterwards.
Wow, that would have me puckered up and grasping for the wheel.
Which move was illegal? Inconsiderate, rude, sure, but illegal?
Damn Mad Max drives like me lmao
That's normal driving down here in PR.
going over chevrons, but especially turning right from the middle lane that had a straight arrow?
you’re a perfect example of why driver licenses need to be harder to get
That thing drives like it’s from Miami
In many states, crossing the chevrons marked with solid white lines isn’t illegal. The lane the car turned right from was marked in the roadway with both straight and right turn arrows (between 40 and 41 seconds)
>The lane the car turned right from was marked in the roadway with both straight and right turn arrows (between 40 and 41 seconds) cool, it didn't turn from that lane. it turned from the 3rd lane to the right. again, crossing the gore area is illegal in california [https://abc30.com/post/driving-road-safety-chp-california-highway-patrol/11057655/](https://abc30.com/post/driving-road-safety-chp-california-highway-patrol/11057655/)
I asked a specific question - what was illegal. Juvenile insults don’t do that. Looking at it, perhaps it violated a California law by changing too many lanes too quickly. Perhaps at 39 seconds it changed too closely in front of another car, if that’s illegal. Perhaps crossing a white lined Chevron is illegal. But perhaps none of those are illegal in California.
>The lane the car turned right from was marked in the roadway with both straight and right turn arrows (between 40 and 41 seconds) you should watch the video again and specifically between those timestamps and eat crow
We’ll have to disagree on which lane it turned from; I saw it cross the Chevron and establish itself in the second lane before it turned right. Your link discusses gore points on freeways, which are different than surface streets.
To be fair, that’s almost the worst-case scenario when it comes to confusing intersections and I think it handled it a lot better than most people would the first time… hell, I’d even call that graceful by MD standards
>We’ll have to disagree on which lane it turned from; I saw it cross the Chevron and establish itself in the second lane before it turned right. which lane did it turn from 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and what marking is in that lane?
I think I saw at least 3 things it did that yes are illegal moves.
>Your link discusses gore points on freeways, which are different than surface streets doesn't matter. [https://www.cronisraelsandstark.com/cross-double-yellow-vehicle-code-21460#:\~:text=(b)%20If%20double%20parallel%20solid,this%20section%20or%20Section%2021655.8](https://www.cronisraelsandstark.com/cross-double-yellow-vehicle-code-21460#:~:text=(b)%20If%20double%20parallel%20solid,this%20section%20or%20Section%2021655.8) here's something you should learn about in your own state. [https://www.azcriminaltraffic.com/driving-through-a-gore-area-is-illegal](https://www.azcriminaltraffic.com/driving-through-a-gore-area-is-illegal)
you’re proving my point that it should be harder to get a license
Bruh. lmao
That’s wild
It’s a guy in the Philippines driving remotely 👀
Give up your license
Your first link describes PARALLEL double white lines, which these are not. Yes, crossing the gore point on an Arizona highway is illegal. That law was put in place after someone did do and killed a police officer in the gore point. In Arizona, there gore point is on a highway at an on/off ramp, which this is not.
You still haven’t pointed out what was illegal in the state of California.
This is America. I can drive like a dickhead all i want.
Any specifics?
Numbering from the leftmost lane, it was in lane 2 with a through marker, crossed the Chevron into lane 3 with through/right turn markers, then turned right. The question in my mind is, was it illegal to change from lane 2 to lane 3 at that point, considering all road markers were white? Was it ill advised and terrible driving? Sure, but was it illegal?
What do you think chevrons are? They link parallel white lanes together. Ah this isn’t in a freeway on-ramp area?
There are no parallel white lines in that video.
Numbering from leftmost they turned on lane 3….
We seem to be watching different videos.
you’re just wrong.. every maneuver it made was objectively illegal.
i truly hope this is a joke in reference to waymo..
Yeah this some action movie hero sh!t
I'm not sure about local laws but.. First - changing lanes in the middle of intersection Second - changing lanes over solid lines with chevrons Third - making a right turn from a lane that clearly indicates with paint on the road as straight only. Any one of these would get me pulled over in the couple states I've lived in.
I’m not wasting my time, someone else already tried and it was evident with your original comment that you aren’t exactly a bright individual, this is my last reply to you, I hope you don’t cause a car crash in the future
This is why we can't have nice things
Yes, and lane three has a combined through/right turn indicator in the roadway....
How do you report these days? When I got my free trial I had to disengage to report iirc
Yup, I had to dissengage and push voice to report it.
First - not illegal in California (https://legalclarity.org/is-it-illegal-to-change-lanes-in-an-intersection-in-california/) Second - I still haven't seen a reference yet suggesting this is illegal. Third - IMHO, it established itself in the lane with through/right turn markers before it started it's right turn. But, this is a matter of opinion and the only one that matters would be the police officer writing a ticket.
Wow it picked up all the tactics from crazy human drivers 🤣 Now if only i could turn on a mode where it forced itself into the lane it needs to be in earlier and more aggressively instead of missing exits in heavy traffic…
Question: How do you report incidents like this? Years ago, I used to log every tiny problem that happened (by saying "Report a Bug...").. Only to find out later from the service guys at the dealership that NONE of it actually gets reported back to Tesla. They told me the logs stay on the vehicle and are only visible to the technicians when they are servicing your vehicle. Or has that changed by now?
For number two - Some quick Google search - The Painted Median (CVC § 21651) When you add chevrons (diagonal stripes) between the two sets of solid lines, the area is legally defined as a divided section or a painted median. Prohibition: Under CVC § 21651(a), it is unlawful to drive any vehicle "over, upon, or across" a dividing section that is at least two feet wide and delineated by double-parallel lines or other markings. The Intent: These chevrons typically indicate a "neutral zone" or "gore area" near freeway on/off-ramps or between high-speed lanes. They are designed to provide a safety buffer; driving over them is often cited as an unsafe lane change. For number 3. - I just don't see any way to rationalize that they are on any other lane than where they are when the turn started/intersection began. And the turn definitely started while they were solidly in the straight only lane. Having said that, it at least did all that without getting too close to others or cutting anyone off, in a relatively short amount of time to get where it needed to go, I'm still impressed it managed at all.
Now that is a definitive statement about the triangular shape; thank you.
Mad Max is pretty aggressive but this is next level. I wouldn’t trust it in that area again.
I’m from Miami and agree with this. Lol
Same here. I see it daily 😂
Damnnn it's really earning that Title
FYI Tesla and Waymo both use remote operators for unsupervised FSD when they encounter complex road scenarios.
So I got a used Tesla a while back. And the previous owner never cleared the dash cam footage. They drove like this ALL the time. Constantly doing this crap. Honking at people for not letting them do shit illegally. (Thus all the dash cam footage.) I felt so bad for my car. Being owned by such a loser. I give it a better life now. Nice comfy full stops before right on red, double stops at stop signs, and nice wide left turns, giving traffic in the oncoming road I am turning into room on the road.
Most accurate comment!
Lmfao!
Step 1: Place vehicle in farthest lane from imminent turn Step 2: Engage FSD maneuver superiority Step 3: profit Reddit karma
Source for Tesla? I know waymo admitted it to congress
As advertised
You tell’em gran-gran…
VP of Tesla says they plan to increase the ratio of “safety monitors” while removing the in-ride supervisor as they transition to unsupervised rides. [elctrek article](https://electrek.co/2026/01/22/tesla-starts-robotaxi-rides-without-safety-monitor-in-austin-what-you-need-to-know/#:~:text=Tesla%20has%20started%20offering%20Robotaxi,on%20the%20rollout%20strategy%2C%20stating:)
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Mad Max from 14.1.2 was a thing of beauty. After neutering it to "mildly inconvenienced max", I'm glad it's now back up to "annoyed Max" at least.
I kind of love this lol. When I hear ‘mad max’ this is the kind of driving I expect. Yesterday on mad max it was going 83 in a 55, and the whole time I was thinking what will I say to the cop when I get pulled over 😂
I mean, what did you expect with a mode called ‘mad max’
It has to be 🤣
lol I got flipped off this weekend because of mad max’s lane weaving
I had absolutely no reason to do that; I had a whole hour before that, and everything was completely operated by FSD.
Meanwhile Waymo has people in the Philippines doing the interventions on the cars… just imagine the lags
Hey did it miss its turn tho????
Hey did it miss its turn tho????
Turn yourself in. You've been a naughty driver.
I’ve noticed similar, albeit not as bad behavior using Mad Max and I’ve stopped using it and will continue to use Hurry for now. Just a little too Mad Max for me.
that’s not what that means.. jesus.. 🤦♂️
that's for robotaxi though not consumer fsd...
If in heavy traffic and you feel like it won’t get over soon enough in its current’ hurry’ mode, can you switch to mad max to get it moving?
This is the problem with training a car with real driving data.... people are idiots.
No one wanted to give you the pass it made its own path lol
Why are you looking at their dashcam vids 👀👀 that in itself is kinda a shitty/nosey thing to do
Damn, so close to losing your license
Act as you would in real life, or at least would like others to.
Correct. Waymo does not sell consumer vehicles, so thought that was implied. Guess not… The original comment was a joke at Waymo for using remote drivers for their ride shares.
It means that Tesla is also admitting to using remote drivers for their autonomous ride share service. This specific reply was about Waymo/Tesla using remote operators, not consumer fsd like OPs post. Sorry that you don’t understand.
My bro in law works on the FsD project it 100% gets looked at. They will use it to adjust software..or teach the AI, whatever they do. Or take the techs and go recreate the situation.
nice shrodingers douchebag lmao
Can’t even spell, much less understand your own attempt at an insult. Big brain energy.
Not all heroes wear capes haha
If I did not clear the footage. I would not care if someone watched it. Would be cool for someone to see what legally abiding driver I am.
It's Mad Max after all But it shouldn't be doing anything illegal
I don't like how Mad Max currently hugs the left lane until the very last moment; it's like it's trying to create "Mad Max moments" for no reason, lol. It does that on the highway, and that has caused it to miss the exit quite a few times with me. They need to train it to start moving over at least two miles before the exit. Now, it starts remembering to move over around 0.8 to 1 mile before on the highway, and that's too late. The same applies to other roads. I guess for now, standard mode does a better job because it doesn't try to hug the left.
If you disengage, it asks you for the reason, and you can click on the mic button once (one short click) and then record a 15-second audio of why you disengaged. It's my understanding that this gets sent to Tesla when you connect your car to Wi-Fi.
YEEE DOWNTOWN SAN RAFAEL
LMAO so hard 
that's kinda fucked up I can't wait til it kills someone
Looks like it did this because the car next to you was accelerating with you ? Like it started to speed up but then didnt know what to do because the car next to you, was too? Lol.
I’m from PR, and I can’t wrap my head as to why this maneuver is so controversial.
Wrong Tesla has stated that no Tesla has ever been able to be remote operated.
You can press the mic button and then say "bug report whatever whatever whatever"
More like an 80 yr old from Miami.. lol..
100% it goes to Tesla
It does go to Tesla. You are confusing two different things here. There’s “Bug Report,” and then there’s “Voice Drive Notes,” which is the prompt that pops up after you disengage FSD and press the mic button. They are not the same thing at all. The Voice Drive Notes are a real feedback channel that Tesla’s AI team actually uses. The old Bug Report voice command is the one that just saves to your car’s local logs for service to fix all non FSD problems. That’s it. They get mixed up constantly. Think about it for a second. What would reporting FSD mistakes only to your local service technician actually accomplish? They can’t change how FSD drives. Those improvements come from Tesla’s AI updates. Why would Tesla design a system that keeps your feedback trapped on the car and never sends it back to the team that actually builds FSD? That makes no sense. AI learns more when it has both voice and video than when it has video alone. Your description of what went wrong helps the system better understand the situation, so it can improve. I’m not saying someone is sitting in a room listening to every single voice note, but your statement and the video are both recorded and used to help train FSD. A Tesla AI engineer confirmed exactly this. https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/3426/tesla-ai-engineer-confirms-your-fsd-voice-notes-are-actually-heard How to report FSD mistakes https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/1228/fsd-beta-v11-a-look-at-tesla-s-voice-drive-notes
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