Bxbybeartd
2026-01-11 16:28
If you’re going for FSD you have to get a HW4 vehicle so any 2024+ Model 3 or some very late 2023+ Model Y
masked_kulprit
2026-01-11 16:35
? FSD is available on hardware 3
Low-Imagination8692
2026-01-11 16:37
You should be able to find something relatively new with that budget. You might even get lucky and find one with FSD included. Late 2023+ Model 3 or Y would be great. If you do get something that doesn't already have FSD included, plan on paying $8000 up front or $99 per month for the subscription.
Treactor
2026-01-11 16:41
Yes but it's significantly worse
RScottyL
2026-01-11 16:45
You will want to go with a new Model 3 or Model Y as they both have the latest HW4
For the Model 3, that would be a 2024 or newer.
If that is too high for your budget, go with a 2023, and that will give you HW3
Manta-Avoid
2026-01-11 16:48
anything but that! She's still responsible if FSD messes up. And if she's not the responsible type, even worse.
do not put a poor driver behind the wheel, but it's your money, your choice!
LoneStarGut
2026-01-11 17:49
One flaw in your plan. Once you get it, you will want to drive it. It will become the car to use on weekends and road trips.
fastoid
2026-01-11 21:30
>Yes but it's significantly worse
LoL 🤣
fastoid
2026-01-11 21:43
There is a downward pressure to the used pre highland M3 Teslas:
1. The 2023 was the last model year for the pre highland and Tesla was pushing a lot of cheap leases with tax credit applied as down payment.
2. There also was a clause forbidding lease buyout, as Tesla claimed to reuse lease returns for Robotaxi. As we know the Robotaxi is not the case, but lease returns are pouring in and have to be dealt with.
I'm guessing the 2026 will be the last year with this significant spill of the used from Tesla until the 3 year leases get exhausted. Right now 2023s with around 35-40k miles can be had for $21-23k. Buying from Tesla adds 1 year and 10k miles for car warranty.
FSD is $8k outright or $99 per month.
FSD is not a driver substitute. HW3 is pretty good and supposed to be improved with v14 light.
MattNis11
2026-01-11 21:47
You need one with hw4
dcsolarguy
2026-01-11 22:13
Someone who doesn’t feel comfortable driving shouldn’t be driving, period. Spend $30k on Ubers for her to get around.
19cloud9
2026-01-11 23:13
Think about leasing a new one and paying the $99 a month for FSD.
ParaIIax_
2026-01-11 23:16
get a 2023/4 pre refresh model Y with HW4
jritchie70
2026-01-12 00:03
Where do you find those kinds of deals on 2023’s? I’d love to get a used Y LR but looking for a deal and trying to avoid CL and FB, wishing to find someone returning a lease or selling and they are getting hit hard on the used market and I can pay a little more and both sides are happy.
fastoid
2026-01-12 00:26
The deals mentioned are for model 3 lease returns only, which were predominantly RWD with LFP batteries. Tesla is currently inundated with them due to the reasons mentioned in the previous comment and has to sell fast. Anything Y or LR was not part of aggressive lease push and is not currently overwhelming Tesla.
Where? Go to [https://www.tesla.com/inventory/used/m3](https://www.tesla.com/inventory/used/m3) , enter your zip, select Available now within 200 miles
Scroll down until you see **Results below may be far away Deliver to any Tesla delivery location of your choice in the continental US for up to $2,500. Listed transportation fees are estimates and will be confirmed once an order is placed.**
Ctrl F: search the page for 2023.
LFP batteries are the most robust and highest longevity of all chemistries, although less energy dense, thus smaller kWh packs. For your daily drive you can charge LFP to 100%. In case of LR, which has a NMC battery it is recommended to charge up to 80%, and the resulting range will be less than LFP at 100%.
jritchie70
2026-01-12 04:40
Thanks! Are there 2023 Ys with LFP batteries?
Stridyr
2026-01-12 14:57
I'm looking for something for my boss for similar reasons (he's old and doesn't like driving anymore). From what I've been reading, you want Hardware Version 4 (HW4). Although it's not a perfect way, make sure that the rear trunk says 'Tesla' instead of 'T'. There are some aftermarket logos that you can buy to replace the 'T' but they're not going to be all that common, I would think. You should be safe with anything 2024 and later.
Also, I would recommend going to a Tesla center with her and getting a test drive using FSD. You may decide not to do this: not being familiar with driving means that she won't be able to anticipate when she needs to be paying attention and then she won't know what to do when she does need to take over. My boss knows how to drive already.