Tesla Model 3 Countermeasures Package

nice! Can you give details on what model thermal cam, install highlights? thanks!

Curious if your radar detection goes off for cyclists too. I've been using rear-facing radar on my bike and it's really helpful as it tells me the relative speed and distance of vehicles approaching from behind.

Thermal camera is the most interesting for me. Can you give more details.

Just got an R7 the other day. Should be good enough for me.

It's all cool and all, but how fast are you going on the highway to need such equipment? This is from my calculations $3,000 in equipments.

How do you like the 150? I have been on the fence on upgrading from my 100.

What thermal camera are you using

I wish all that fancy stuff was legal here in the EU. Nice setup (and car ;) ).

It can. Same thing with some car blind spot monitoring systems. However, most high end detectors have filter blocks for common proximity warning sensors and such. Most of the time the pickup range will be very short as the signal isn’t strong. So the RD may alert within like 20 or 30 feet or less.

Robofinity system

A bit faster loading. Other than that, the only benefit is the built in GPS. If that will not be very useful to you, I would not upgrade.

Robofinity

I don’t drive excessive speeds or recklessly. However, speed limits in my state, as with most states, are well below the 85th percentile speed.

R7 is great. Upgrade to the international firmware (see RDforums) for a huge increase in performance

Robofinity. Installation took around two hours.

Pretty cool! I drive pretty calmly these days, been driving since 1995. But haven’t had a ticket in over 15 years, and that one was for an expired registration. The thermal is awesome!

Yea I heard about it. But I need to figure out basics first haha

Links please to all the equipment.

I agree ya speed lmit are well below the 85th percentile, but at least in my area the cops know that too. They normally don't care if you stay within 10mph of the limit and sometimes within 20mph of the limit and I don't find a need to even get a radar for my car. There is a highway near me that's a 55mph limit that EVERYONE goes 70-75 on and cops sitting on the shoulder won't blink unless you are going significantly faster than flow of traffic, IDK maybe just me I don't find a need for countermeasures unless im planning on excessively speed or driving recklessly (Which I don't btw) Legitimately how many times has these equipment actually saved you from a speeding ticket? (Ex. you were going 25 over on an empty highway when the radar went off, actual high risk of a speeding ticket)

If you were to prioritize these devices, which do you think provides you the most utility, versus the least utility? By the way, this is the best thing I've seen posted in this sub.

It’s hard to say exactly how many times I’ve been saved, although there have definitely been several obvious saves. But the fact that I’ve been driving for nearly 3 decades and have never received a ticket is some evidence of effectiveness. Especially considering when I was in my early 20s, I had a sports car and was a bit extreme (young and dumb).

Probably the radar detector. If I lived in a state with very high LiDAR usage, such as Georgia, the laser jammers would take number one spot. Followed by the app and police scanner

I don’t think the sub will allow me to link. The thermal imaging camera is robofinity. I put the brand names of all the other equipment used in the post

I’ve been driving for two decades and have never used anything and never received a ticket. I’m not saying the equipment hasn’t helped you. I’m just saying that it doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

Thank you! I’ll look into it.

It’s a separate screen right? Can’t tie into the factory screen?

Giving me some Cannonball vibes, very nice. Was on the lookout for a Polizei 144 logo somewhere 😁

True. But, I also said it is kind of a weird hobby of mine so that is part of it. It does help me to be very much aware of what is going on around me. Most people who get tickets are not paying attention. With my equipment I have a much better idea of law-enforcement activity around me, I’ve also learned a lot of their common tactics and methods.

I've got an Escort radar detector, but there is so much laser in my state I think it may be time to upgrade to the laser jammer. I get a lot of false positives from blind spot detection on other cars. My state is moving to encrypted police radios currently, so I can't go that route, but the thermal camera seems fascinating. Does it save you very often?

Yeah that makes sense for blind spot systems. My radar should be closer to 150 yards, but I'd assume this is mainly for highway use anyway.

It is a separate screen. I don’t think you can tie into the factory screen, but someone who is more technically savvy than me might say otherwise.

Fair enough. That infrared camera is dope though. We have a lot of deer accidents in my area and I believe that would help out a ton.

Honestly. I don’t think I’ve ever had a real save from it alone. But, it does help me spot hidden police cars. It’s much more effective when used in unison with a detector or jammer.

That's crazy. I've never gotten a ticket either and I have none of that.

Haha fair enough. I'm with you, Im early 20s right now and have a sports car and bike and can sometimes have too much fun. I always considered a radar but it's so damn expensive that I resort to just driving the flow of traffic instead lol.

A godsend driving through GA on 75 south of ATL. I swear the cops there have lasers blanketing the highway near small towns. This is a neat hobby. Lots of people use Waze not even realize that they’re seeing into what used to be a hidden world of law enforcement (not just speed traps, but accidents and other emergencies) whether they’re speeding recklessly or not. It’s never a bad thing to be informed. Best of luck and you’d better knock on some wood haha

Oh, it definitely helps with deer. In fact the other night, I noticed a bright white heat signature in the distance and thought it was a parked car, nope it was a deer. The camera picked it up about three times further away than my headlights did

It feels like you are preparing for a bank heist

But why tho. Just drive the speed limit

I was going to ask why the thermal camera because saw another post with someone showing a deer run across the road. I’m thinking are you going to be looking at the screen the whole time for animals in the dark rather than pay attention to the road. Once I read all the things you have installed and why, I can see how it would be useful for police hidden with lights off. The antennae on the back of the car … meh.

I do something similar where I drive the speed limit and it’s been working well so far.

*Drives 12 miles a year* ☝️

I wish lol.

Find someone to hit you with their laser guns. That front placement is likely too low. I was going to cut out custom grill inserts to get them where they need to be but then sold that car and the jammer.

It has been tested. They were a couple punch thoughts around 600 feet or less with some guns (mainly dragoneye), but even then it took a few seconds to get a reading so I would have had plenty of time to slow down.

Feels like it's less about speeding and more about moving weight across state lines. The Model 3 is stealth as it has become ubiquitous, but the additional tells (i.e. large antenna) are give-aways.

I run on my model 3 and S Radenso RC-M radar detector with ALP laser jammers plus highway Radar app and Waze, in my wife’s model Y I have a Uniden R8 Interested in the thermal Camera feedback.

What app?

Highway radar. Some people prefer JBV1. Both apps are android only, but highway radar is available on iPhone as beta via test flight. I’m an iOS user but I do have a secondary android phone to run the apps, I just use my iPhone’s hotspot.

The system uses AI and will give you an audible tone if it detects an animal or person. It’s not a perfect AI system, occasionally it will also alert to non animal objects with a high heat signature, such as black trash cans shortly after sunset, but it is very useful so you don’t have to constantly look at the screen.

Thank you for this. I’m interested in that highest radar app. I’m finding several of different apparent capability and quality. What’s the name of the one you recommend? I’m an iPhone user if it matters. Thanks in advance!

I’ve got the escort redline 360c and the integrated ZR6 laser jammers (escort calls them “shifters”). Stealth install on my 24 M3P, I’ve been running this setup for around a year. The laser jammers have saved my ass twice when I definitely got tagged by a hidden trooper, most recently in the dark and rain at some distance. No way I would have seen him, and he was not running radar to alert me earlier. Around here the cops are usually lazy and will run around with the radar on (or it’s some in-motion system) and the 360c will warn me of their presence from very far away. It’s the hidden troopers with laser that will bust you for sure if you’re speeding excessively.

If you’re an iOS user you really only have one choice. Highway Radar is available on iOS as a beta via test flight (get the access on rdforum). I am also an iOS user but I bought a cheap secondary android phone to run highway radar and JBV1. I use my iPhone’s hotspot to connect it.

Thank you. I use TestFlight for other things so will see if I can get access and give that a try. Much appreciated!

Keep in mind, the iOS version is cut down compared to the android version. It’s still very very useful, it just is lacking a few features such as it doesn’t pull other non-police data from Waze (such as objects in the road) and the audio alerts are not quick as refined

Also, JBV1 will actually datamine the speeds of Waze users ahead of and behind you so it can give you a rough idea of how fast traffic ahead of you is moving. Although I’ve not found that particularly useful and it’s occasionally bugged

Sadly, the TestFlight closed beta is full, per the developer at [https://www.rdforum.org/threads/148796/](https://www.rdforum.org/threads/148796/)

Ive gone 20 years without a ticket myself, and do you want to know how much I have spent on "countermeasures"? Zero.....ZEROOOOOOOO..nothing....nada......I don't drive like a tool. On longer trips I may do 7 over.....around town I don't speed because it doesn't save you any time. For all you know you are just speeding to the next red light......where if you did the speed limit you would roll straight through. The radar detector industry has made a fortune from people like you......but you will NEVER be able to beat what they have. At least not 100% of the time. Just do what the rest of us do......do 5-7 over and hope that some over zealous or bored officer doesn't take notice of you. Edit: That front facing LIDAR doesn't save you from the officers behind you neither.

Can confirm. Model 3 in GA (Metro Atlanta area)….and my ALP set up has paid for itself in the first 3 years.

Where do you get your ranges/settings for the radar detectors?

Never had a ticket in my life and I spent an extra $0 because of it! Getting to a place 5 minutes faster isn't worth it 99% of the time.

Does it mute or reduce sound to music you’re playing when the alert chimes? Wouldn’t be useful if it alerts you and you’re blaring music that can’t be heard.

How useful is the police scanner? Pretty much all your trunked radio is encrypted nowadays

I loved my Escort 8500ci. Everything was clean install and did all the things you could want. Next put it in my model 3, but saved me many times in my WRX. The front bumper is a tricky spot for the blockers

In my area, it is very useful. Particularly monitoring the highway patrol. When I first started listening to the scanner, it was pretty much gibberish. However, after listening for a while, I pretty much learned how to decipher useful information. I have learned all the 10 codes, all the individual trooper call signs, which ones patrol what areas etc. also, almost all of the frequencies in my area are not encrypted, hopefully it stays that way.

Out of curiosity, what happens when you're obviously speeding but the cop has no reading on their laser gun, and when they pull you over they can see the laser jammer on the bumper? Do they just write the ticket anyway and wait for you to contest it? Or do they just give you a very stern warning?

It depends, every time I’ve encountered laser nothing has happened. However, my jammer has a timer option. I have it set where it will jam for three seconds and then turn off. This gives me time to slow down before the officer gets his reading. He probably doesn’t even know I’m using one. Even though jammers are legal in my state, I still use this timer because I want them to stay legal. If you were just continuously jamming, and in one of the 13 states where jammers are illegal, that might draw their attention.

Don’t you have to be invited to use TestFlight? I’m on iOS lol

If you drove your car next to a Waymo would it brick the thing? They drive based on lidar.

I doubt it. They are probably operating on a different wavelength than police laser guns. I believe some car brands also use LiDAR, such as Cadillac. However, I’ve never received a false signal. Some of the high-end laser jammers will actually identify the model of the laser gun so I assume they have the frequencies programmed.

MF here thinks he’s Batman. Looks slick, man!

I’ve had tons of tickets and I’ve owned a radar detector in the past.

Is the uniden device good and precise?

Where did you plug in your radar detector? I just got my 23 M3P and have an R7.

How are you liking the Uniden? I bought an R8 from bestbuy and returned it the next day. It was so annoying that it picked up every fucking vehicle sensor. Dad loaned me his Valentine V1 and I ended up buying one. I love the simplicity and directional arrows and it doesn’t chirp 24/7 with every Chevy or ford that is next to me on the highway. Doesn’t even pick up department store doors. As far as the setup, it’s dope. I like all that you got. You really saying that a jammer is legal in your state? I’d double check not just local laws but federal law. Your state might not enforce it but the Feds don’t mess around. What I want to put in my MYP is a CB radio to troll people. lol

The R8 right out of the box can be very chatty. If you still had it there is a guide I could link you that showed you how to set filters for the problematic frequencies with little impact on actual threats. My r8 rarely alerts to proximity sensors now but I definitely understand your initial frustration.

I bought a hardwire kit. I ran the power wire down the a pillar trim piece and then under the carpet and behind the console trim. I’m powering it (and most of the accessories) from the 12v power port inside the center console. It only has power when the car is on.

Very, Uniden makes the best detectors imo

Damn well if I wasn’t satisfied with my valentine, then I’d sure be upset I didn’t know of such guide. I don’t know when the next time I’ll be in the market for one but I’ll sure to do some deep research on it. I remember looking it up and everyone and their mother saying it was great and then dropping like $690 on it only to have it talk like a damn toddler every two seconds really turned me off on it. Appreciate the info.

Are you sure you are not Bruce Wayne?

This looks like a mule more than a speeding car. I wonder what you are carrying.

It looks more like a mule than a speeding car. I wonder what you are carrying.

If he’s a mule and he’s speeding… 🙄

Well he doesn't need to speed when he is carrying. He can still avoid heavy cop areas.

Using a hotspot? How much data does HwyRadar use in a month? How much do use it per day?

I kind of want that thermal imaging camera. Do you have a link?

Is the camera also useful for parking? That is can you discern a curb or lamp post ?

🐓🐓

I've gone average to above average speeds for 25 years without getting a speeding ticket with none of this.

Alternatively, you could save on accessories and tickets by sticking to the traffic laws

It can, it can also discern the painted parking lines and lane lines. Theoretically, I could drive around with my headlights off and still be able to somewhat see.

It’s robofinity

Can’t go wrong with Valentine. I have one in my Ferrari. You really need to download the JBV1 app to get the most out of it (Android only). Also, I have a CB radio that I occasionally use in the Tesla. Unfortunately, 90% of the time all of the CB channels are just filled up with idiots running illegally high-powered units and talking skip from all over the country. Truckers seem to rarely use CB anymore. Ch 19 is usually crickets, occasionally if I call out a radio check, I will get a reply but that is about it

This is ILLEGAL ! Nice.

Highway Radar App is Android only. Any Apple users in your counter measure circles ? What do they use?

Highway radar is available on iOS, but it’s beta and can only be access via test flight. I believe the beta test is full for now. However, the iOS version is cut down from the android version. I am an iOS user but bought a cheap secondary android phone to run the app on. I use my iPhone’s hotspot to connect it.

OK, thanks looks like the Highway Radar app has too many features that violate the iOS store policy, which they removed . Not worth even trying to get on beta. :-(

I would really recommend buying a cheap older android phone. I have highway radar beta on my iPhone, but I still prefer the android version. Also, android can run JBV1. A lot of people like it better than highway radar. It has a lot of unique features, such as it can data-mine the GPS speed of Waze users in front of you and behind you to give you an idea of how fast traffic is moving ahead of you.

I have no moral concerns over speeding, but for my Tesla in particular I don't feel like it speeds up my trips. The range hit is just so massive from going over 85-90 that you spend more time charging than you save.

Not sure, but I’m sure it’s not anything to be concerned with unless you’re on a data limited plan

Now I just let FSD drive and don’t bother speeding

I personally prefer to simply drive like a normal person

Just drive slightly over the speed limit like everyone else

Have you been pulled over and let go with a warning? Just curious since all the gear might alter the eventual interaction with law enforcement.

With 91% FSD miles

For the Highway Radar app, what SABRE Plugin are you using?

WzSabre

Is the cost, time, and effort worth trying to avoid a $200 ticket maybe twice per year?

Plot twist - OP drives the speed limit at all times

I know you've got a ton of electronics in there and I can't tell what year your M3 is but with the newest models the low-voltage system seems to sit at 18v in most places easy to tap into, which is keeping me from wanting to hardwire my R7. Is yours still a 12V car or have you worked around this?

It’s a 2018 so 12v

Seems like Tesstudio Tesla Accessories CT-2 Thermal has the same camera module as Robofinity, but uses Tesla specific screen.

Did thermal camera installation require extra hardware? I see robofinity type cameras are designed for mounting on the hood edge.

Awesome, thank you!

No additional hardware needed. They recommend that you mount it on the hood edge, and that would’ve been much much easier. It also would actually make the camera work a little better. However, I mounted mine in the front bumper in front of the grill.

Dude.... Thats sick. I wonder how much of this I csn do in California. I've gotten a bullshit speeding ticket twice, in the same exact place, from the same cop. 5 years apart. I had no way to prove I wasn't speeding. It was my word against theirs, and guess who's word they picked?

The real purpose of buying all this gear, is telling other people you have this gear. Anyways, all jokes aside, glad you're enjoying using your money to buy the shit you want.

I would be willing to bet that everyone else on the road hates you. That’s a lot of equipment just to drive like a tool on public roads endangering everyone around you

The part I'm most interested in is the one you gave the least detail on. What thermal camera and display, if you don't mind? How is the refresh when traveling at highway or higher speeds? I really fuckin' want one, but want it to feel OEM. I like how yours looks

What about the uniden R4. I looked up your R8 and am not keen on spending $800. It seemed pretty capable when comparing cost.

It lacks directional arrows. It helps to know which direction the signal is coming from considering it may be miles away.

So $400 for an arrow😂. Seems if it’s going off, I just need to slow down regardless. But hey I’ve spent $750 on three different speeding tickets with my new lawyer friend. 2 for my girlfriend and one for me. M3P we’ve both been abusing😂. I mean if the R4 has similar range as the R8, I could give up the arrow. Though I saw the R7 also has arrows and is a little bit cheaper.

It’s a fine detector if you can do without the arrows. I can’t after having them. The R7 is also amazing, I have two of them and I’d recommend it over the R4. Especially with the international firmware (read about it on RDforums)

And pardon my ignorance, but if the detector detects a laser pulse, aren’t you already busted?

The r7 is $500 and a little more palatable to me. I know cheap radars are shit, and I do abuse the speed of my car, so $500 is probably worth the peace of mind. How much are jammers and do I need one😂

Was just shopping the same on Amazon. $300 cheaper than the R8. Seems a better value. Had radar detectors in the past , but hated constant alerts from grocery stores and such. Does it actually learn to stop those after traveling your normal routes like to work everyday?

Yes you are. Radar detectors are pretty much useless against laser. Over half the time they won’t even alert because the laserbeam will not get high enough to touch them. Laser jammers are your only defense against laser.

Can’t go wrong with the R7. The R8 and R4 will have a little bit longer range, but in real world conditions that usually only amount to 200 or 300 feet. Laser jammers range from between $800 and $2500. You definitely need one.

Ive been driving since around that time too and haven't got a ticket either. It's called being smart and running the vehicle hard when it's smart to do without needing all that cool tech.

The kit is robofinity. The refresh rate is quite good, I would even say you could drive with your lights off if you mount it on your hood, which is how they recommend you mount it.

Yeah, in Georgia you dont even get points until 15mph over. Most places in the state they won't bother pulling you over unless you hit 15mph over....unless it's the dicks with GSP and speed trap haven Tifton.

Yes. That's called auto GPS lock-up. Which is available on R7

i do none of this, constantly drive over 80mph on the streets and also havent gotten a ticket. skill issue tbh

Wtf is wrong witchu bro

Drive like you want, use Waze and let an attorney handle it if need be. Life's short

K I’ll look into it. But jammers sound expensive. You’ve been super insightful. Just don’t know how to integrate it into my M3P . Worried about powering an R7 without a cigarette lighter, much less powering laser jammers and how to mount and power them on my car. I’m 55 and not to tech savvy 😂. F-ing love my car though and drive it like a 16 year old!!!! But I am 55 nonetheless, and know to protect my speedy inclinations lately. What am I looking at for a jammer install, and say an R7 purchase? Saw an Escort 260 I think with jammers as well. It’s gonna cost a thousand near as I can figure😂. I love jamming my car though, so MAYBE worth it?? Appreciate your insight

As seen in any future remake of Cannonball Run

I’m sure you set this up so you can follow the speed test more strongly.

Awesome! Thank you

Shoot, I would love the thermal for deer avoidance.

What thermal camera and screen?

Taking a 100.1Wh battery aboard an airplane is illegal too. Do you get off on that?

Was driving back to CA from Reno one time, I drive fast to keep me awake (a bit sleepy and tired). This car decided to try and catch up with me. Ofcourse he couldn't and he's probably 20 cars away after some safe overtakes, i could see he is a bit frustrated trying hard. My Waze notifies me 'police up ahead ' I begin to slow down and take the right lane and sure enough this car sees me slowing down and probably thought its time to pass me after few failed attempts and he did going at 100 mph..as soon as he passed me I see red and blue lights come up and gets pulled over a few miles ahead. 😂🤣😆 I was actually following them with police right behind him and won't even pull over...lol... I dont think i could drive that fast now actually on the Teslas (have MY and M3), yes its quick but won't try sustaining that speed too long (quicker battery drain), can only go fast in a few bursts. Or best, I just hit auto pilot and drive about 3 to 5 miles over speed limit so as not to slow down flow of traffic, I'm in CA..😁

Rotating license plate panel? Oil slick deployment system?

Bringing the 18V down to 12V or similar should be fairly possible with a dc-dc converter, although it does require some knowledge of electronics and may need soldering too for connectors…

Yeah I've actually got some converters left from 3d printer modifications, I think I could pretty easily tuck one up into the front camera cover.

This thread is not for you.

You can get a system with rear-facing jammers as well.

Let's not forget Macon lol

I use Flitsmeister and since I've been using it i had no more speeding tickets and I drive 50% faster than the speed limit

So much crime in Macon they gotta pull everyone over for a minor infraction.

GSP sucks.

If you hardwire it you can find cheap dc stepdown converters for cheap https://a.co/d/g6beDA8

OP which highway radar app do you use? Radarbot?

Highway Radar. Its android only. I am an iOS user but I bought a secondary android phone and I use my iPhone’s hotspot to connect it.

Robofinity

Can’t afford tickets after buying all the gear…

All this for what? To start speeding? Why not save yourself all this money and just abide to the laws. Speed limits aren't there for fun.

jeez

I've been driving for 40 years and have yet to receive a ticket either. It's even more remarkable as I don't use "counter measures" lol.

Macon should be closed. Yes, all of Macon. Just dissolve it and start over.

Correlation is not causation. Your logic is flawed. Tech is still cool though. I like tech.