Model 3 HW4

2024+

All HW4 Model 3s are model year 2024 and newer, easy to tell via updated front/rear lights.

You can't find any of the highland models that started in model year 2024? What do you mean? What filters/website are you using?

2024 and up

How can you not? Are you searching on Tesla.com?

I was hoping to find a 2023 one for a bit cheaper price. I’m having a tough time filtering the HW3 from HW4 2023 teslas

Yeah I’ve been looking there. My fault for not specifying: I was looking for a 2023 one to hopefully save a bit of money, and I can’t find one on the Tesla site. None of the photos shows the software screen. I see now that it’s 2024+ so I will start looking for those and hope to find one in my budget. Thanks!

There are some late 2023 builds with hw4 before the ‘highland’ refresh. If you’re unsure, write down the VIN and call the service center/showroom it’s located at or Tesla support should be able to help you as well, just ask if that car you’re looking at is hardware 4

No there are no hw4 model 3 that are not highland. The refreshed model 3 brought the new hardware. All non refreshed model 3's are hw3 (or hw2.5 if a lot older)

not true. as he said above, some late 2023 pre refresh also have HW4.

Incorrect, I believe it was October ‘23 they started added HW4

They don't exist. Hw4 was introduced to model 3 with highland which was model year 24. There were some released in late 23 in some geographies but I believe they were still the 24 model.

23 is cheaper because it is pre-refresh and hw3.

Please provide me with exemples please. I have a late 2023 model 3 bought a few weeks before the refresh and it's definitely not hw4

No there are none. Maybe you're confusing with model y which did have 2023 models with hw4. For model 3, hw4 was released with the 2024 model year. Some early highlands were released in late 2023 in some markets but again those are still the refreshed model

October 2023 was the month the highland was released in some markets

Depends when and where it was built, and what region you purchased in. It wasn’t available to all markets

I could be misremembering the exact month then, but there were definitely pre-highland cars with hw4 briefly

The model 3 in all markets was upgraded to hw4 with the highland upgrade. Firstly in October for some and as late as February/March for others. But again that change was only made with the highland refresh. Again, you're probably thinking of the model Y which had a hardware upgrade before the juniper refresh

I am not saying you're wrong. What I need is an example or something because this is news to me. I've been following closely the development of those cars for almost a decade, first with S/X, and I would be extremely surprised if I missed something like this. I looked it up again and from what I gathered, Berlin, Shanghai and the US factories all switched to HW4 only for the refresh

I wouldn’t stress it. If your budget is limited go for what you can afford, 2023 is still a great car and mine is HW3 and I love it. So it doesn’t get speed profiles in the city so freaking what. FSD 12.6.4 isn’t the latest but it’s still pretty damn good and I’m living the dream.