I’m no expert on what a v14”lite” might look like on a HW3 vehicle, it could be everything people that purchased FSD ever wished for. But based on Tesla’s track record of overpromising and under-delivering, I’d bet against that. And if this lite version does yet again fail to meet expectations, the bait and switch of charging customers $10k for a “full” version, then delivering a “lite” and expecting them to be happy, will go down as one of thr greatest swindles in history.
Full Reckless Driving \*Lite\*. Tastes great or less filling? Serious WTF does that mean?
So does this come before or after V13lite? Because I’m still waiting on Tesla to deliver on that promise
Does anyone else feel like this is the intersection of “empty promises ave” and “too little too late st” for those of us who have 4-6 year old cars and bought it on the “coming next month”-promises back then already?
Relax. There's no chance they'll deliver what they promised over ten years ago anytime soon. Everyone will equality get shitty software from Tesla
Lmao this is fucked up
You mean to tell me adding 10% more parameters won’t suddenly unlock general intelligence?
it's gonna be cruise control...
Based on the latest report they posted themselves, Autopilot + FSD performance has gotten worse in the latest quarter YoY. Given the # of HW4 cars increased (produced) while the # of HW3 cars decreased (age), that's not exactly a good sign that they're making any advances despite their promises.
Still vaporware 🤣
He is a crook! Plain and simple….. you buy a yardstick he gives it to you a millimeter at a time.
In other words words, no they won’t
So never. Lite version means typical Tesla junk.
Give it a few more years and those cars won’t be on the road anymore. Problem solved.
*Next Year™*
Advanced Autopilot? Enhanced Autopilot? Autopilot+ ?
No one wants or trusts that stupid software, most owners are stuck with their vehicles, since they lost so much value.
Instead of “Mad Max” mode, you get “Slightly Perturbed Steve” /s
Classic Elon. Move the goal post. I can hear him think "We promised FSD, but what is exactly the definition?" There are no official bounds to the term. So no hardware upgrade for HW3.
My M3 with 2.5 was "fully hardware capable" of Level 5 self driving back in 2019...
Probably 😂
He’s doing everything to keep this stock price high because he knows pretty all of 2026 is going to be horrible, revenue wise. Trying to convince shareholders to approve his potential 1 trillion dollar compensation package. He’s desperate at this point. Plus, a lot of his loans are using Tesla stock as collateral, if it falls below a certain price, he could actually get margined called, then he’s screwed.
So backing off on us grading the hardware on our two cars. 2Q26 will come and go and our 2018 3 will still be on FSD 12.
But what about the Photon Count?
Good thing they are known for keeping their word, not lying and always meeting deadlines.
>We are excited to announce that, as of today, **all Tesla vehicles** produced in our factory – including Model 3 – will have the **hardware needed for full self-driving** capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver. TSLA website, October 19, 2016 I remember the old days...when TSLA first upgraded to "HW2". It was Muskplained to me on this very sub that all Branch Elonians had to do is get a free upgrade every time TSLA upgraded a chip - making the above statement "not a fraud".... Welp, here we are.
Next Year....
**translation:** If a class action lawsuit forces us to, we'll give you a dogshit version of FSD 14 so that we don't have to pay you for ripping you off.
Light Self Driving (LSD) no thanks
I know a guy that bought a Model Y 5 years ago because Elon said it was a good investment cause owners could rent them out as robotaxis. People are gullible AF
"10X" was the buzzword they used. Not that a circa 2017 cell phone chip with a 1.3MP camera (same resolution as a 2004 Nokia) will be able to do much with all those parameters.
They gonna promise everything until Nov 6 and then the truth comes out. ‘Oh btw…’
2Q2126
They’ll just change the ui a little and up the version number.
God, I wish. Just regular dumb cruise control that does nothing but keep the speed would make me so happy.
And by "probably" they mean "maybe", And by "maybe" they mean "possibly" And by "possibly" they mean "some day" And by "some day" they mean "No, it's never coming".
Partial Self Driving
Self drive you off the road instead of into the back of a semi.
That full self driving will be along any day now. Right about the time Republicans release their new health care plan.
The question is ... which direction does your Tesla turn when it reaches that intersection? East on Too Little Too Late St. to the hyperloop station, or North on Empty Promises Ave to the ship leaving for Mars?
Typically it blows through the interesection and gets tboned by an imaginary Roadster.
Pardon the blatant self-promotion, but I was going to buy targeted advertising from Reddit. They ghosted me. You have options if you think FSD hasn't been delivered as promised. One of those options is described at my website, [www.teslaarbitration.com.](http://www.teslaarbitration.com) I am a lawyer. I am the lawyer, Marc Dobin, who represented himself in arbitration against Tesla and won. Frankly, it bothers me that people are not getting what was sold to them. In my view, Tesla has gotten away with over-promising and under-delivering for far too long.
"Probably"
Well since FSD isn't legal anywhere and Tesla would be facing potential lawsuits... V14"lite" probably just means level 2 or 3... but with a new name!
Based on the lawsuit Tesla lost, I doubt they will ever progress past the same level 2 (or potentially 3) that everyone else already has
Sounds like bs marketing for the same level 2 and 2.5/3 that tons of other manufacturers have
There is no try, only do.
Or the Epstein files.
Keep in mind... 1 year in Elon-gate-ed time is 12 years in human time.
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