Tesla FSD Refund Journey - Tesla Model 3 Purchased 12/2018 - FSD $6,400.00 paid on 10/2019

Keep fighting the good fight!

Time for a class-action lawsuit.

As a former Tesla driver, I can confirm that it’s a shit company with zero customer service.

you've been musked. Though by 2019 it was already very obvious elon was lying about FSD. He had already missed his initial, "it will drive itself across country \[by 2017\]" promise and was 4 years out of his "we consider FSD to be a solved problem, just waiting on regulators" statements.

One obtained a refund in USA through arbitration. One in UK using civil law. A phone call won't cut it. Are you in USA? If so, contact the lawyer that oversaw his own arbitration. His name is Marc Dobin, I think, from Washington. Reported in July: "Tesla has been forced to reimburse a customer’s Full Self-Driving package after an arbitrator determined that the automaker failed to deliver it."

Good luck. Sounds like you'll need a lot of perseverance and patience

I just did a few minutes' research. I think you should contact Thomas J. LoSavio: [https://apps.calbar.ca.gov/attorney/Licensee/Detail/51023](https://apps.calbar.ca.gov/attorney/Licensee/Detail/51023) There's an email address on there. He seems to have been leading attempts to get a class-action lawsuit allowed, with some success. I presume he is now looking for people in your position to join him. EDIT: I now see you are in Florida, and these class-action lawsuits seem to be state by state. You might still want to contact him, though, as I expect others have, and he might be able to help find some collaborators. Good luck!

Can you reverse the charge on your credit card?

From 2019?

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Iirc they have an arbitration clause

Lmao I remember all the Elon fan boys going absolutely nuts over fsd claiming he did it and look where we at now! Fucken car still attempts to merge into a turning lane when it’s supposed to drive straight for miles!!!shit is fucken bullshit!

Is it possible to seek a refund if FSD was paid for but I no longer own the car?

Don’t fret now. It’s coming in 6 months. I swear to my lord & savior Elon Musk.

Correction "its a shit company ***that the market values at $1.134 trillion*** with zero customer service".

Very interesting write-up here: [https://dobinlaw.com/dobin-tesla-arbitration-fsd-refund/](https://dobinlaw.com/dobin-tesla-arbitration-fsd-refund/)

Yes. Are you a lawyer?

Try filing a complaint with the BBB. I know doge stripped down the government, but it's worth a try.

Thanks for the plug. Marc You can also read more about the situation at [www.teslaarbitration.com](http://www.teslaarbitration.com)

BBB isn't government and is also useless

I'd certainly try, you lost out on the service you could have used when you owned it and had a diminished resale value for something that didn't have FSD.

All these people sign an arbitration clause during the buying process. I think that keeps a lot of them from being part of a class action. Im not a lawyer so I could be speaking BS 😂 but there definitely is an arbitration clause.

>is also useless Can we leave a review for the BBB on Yelp?

It’s a heavy lift, but arbitration clauses can be invalidated. This might be one of those cases.

Just buy a new tesla like the other lemmings

Yeah I know it’s a while ago but maybe you can get someone on the phone at the credit card company that wants to join you on the adventure!

Pretty cool that moron Musk was allowed to swoop in and destroy any agency that might hold him accountable for this.

Last week I leased an Ioniq 5. Prior to this, my last three cars were Teslas. I bought FSD three times, thinking the feature was just around the corner. After all, that’s what they claimed. I’m amazed at how full-featured the cruise control is in the I5. The ride is smoother and quieter too (and no phantom braking). Oh, and since it’s hurricane season where I live, I have V2L hooked up from the I5. This is another feature Tesla promised but never delivered. My Tesla experience wasn’t horrible - it’s just that they have some serious competition now. As a once-loyal Tesla customer, I don’t see myself ever going back.

Haha.

Not sure. I mean I filed a complaint a while back about seeing worms in my salad with the BBB. They then contacted the restaurant to get me a refund. At that point, it was up to the restaurant if they wanted to pay or get a bad rating for the public to see.

Also, if enough people.go to arbitration for the same thing, the company may allow a class action as it could cost them less in the long run. It's the difference between paying for 1000 individual tribunals and 1 bigger court case.

"FSD will be out next week" "Free beer tomorrow"

Fraud.. I dont understand how hes not in jail.

>Last week I leased an Ioniq 5. Prior to this, my last three cars were Teslas. I bought FSD three times, thinking the feature was just around the corner Wow... You didn't learn the first time?

True believer = slow learner...

I understand and I fear for the worst outcome. I don’t even dare to write down my exact thoughts. But by evading jail he puts everyone else in misery.

Here's the thing, it's always being updated so all the "once we get it unsupervised we'll update older hardware vehicles". It will never be unsupervised. Ever.

You have more money than sense!

I’m sorry, but if you’re a Tesla owner who paid anything for an “FSD” feature that didn’t yet exist….you’re an idiot…….and you’re now surprised you won’t be refunded voluntarily? LMAO!

I bought mine in 2019 after fElon told us the cars were driving themselves already at the first AI day. 12k with taxes. I’m ready to sue.

In florida?

There are at least some lawyers taking up Tesla on their false FSD and Autopilot promises.. https://www.theverge.com/tesla/720157/tesla-death-lawsuit-verdict-lawyer-brett-schreiber-interview

Small claims

The Ioniq 5 has FSD? Loving FSD on my new Tesla but didn’t realize others had it as well. Getting driven from home to dinner city and highway is amazing though.

Precisely.

1 Thing u did wrong was buying that terrible car, and now u double down thinking Elon will refund u lol