Stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Stock, button. Does it really matter how you control your turn signal? Are we so set in our minds that only turn stock is a good solution and nothing else would ever do? I personally find a button that I can easily reach by my thumb while keeping hands on the wheel just as convenient as the stock. I don't even need to release the grip of the wheel while pressing it unlike with the stock where you have to reach out to it.
Yes, it does.
Elon did it again! you would be financially irresponsible to buy anything but a Tesla. not only do they appreciate, update over the air, dirclve themselves, make you money in your sleep... no, they also are upgradable with the latest tech AND backwards compatible! Legacy Auto is fucking dead!
Placing the turn signals on a rotating control is Elon level stupidity.
I find it difficult to use right turn signal when exiting roundabouts (as it's not under my thumb at all at this moment)
The most on-brand thing, ever. Take it away. Claim it won't come back. Everyone hates it. Sell it back to the consumer. Eventually just bring it back as standard. See the yoke situation.
Sure does. Nobody else has done this for a VERY good reason. I have always been able to reach the stock without removing my hands from the wheel. That’s a terrible argument. The stock stays in the exact same position, the wheel doesn’t. That’s a safety issue. Tesla is trash,
TSAAS... Brilliant!
Yeah, na
Another catalyst! Next TSLA will start offering a subscription to the turn signal.
LMAO
Dude, the only reason the turn signal arms were removed was to make the car cheaper. That's it. No big brain shit.
Why would they bring it back if it didn't matter?
Along with the yoke.
That’s stealing from BMW!
GigaStalk
You must not do many roundabouts, eh? The stalk works great compared to hunting a moving button.
>I personally find a button that I can easily reach by my thumb while keeping hands on the wheel just as convenient as the stock And I have a stalk I can use without either a thumb or removing my hand from the wheel. So your solution takes more effort. I can even indicate while turning and exiting a roundabout with ease. Amazing! You need to accept your in a minority, there's a reason Tesla's bringing it back and it's a largely ignored 'innovation' outside of Tesla. It's because for every one person who likes it, there's infinitely more who dislike it and rightfully find it less ergonomic.
It's not like most Telsa drivers use their turn signals anyway.
Yoke?
So how do you turn on the turn signal?
Yoke?
Perfect. I can see the analyst reports already: "Tesla corners the stalk-market™️, which we estimate at $350B"
Steering wheel from plaid
Yeah I’m confused. Does the car just know when you want to change lanes??
I would absolutely pay $348 for a stalk. And I'd pay for a wheel.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/models/en_us/GUID-DEB259CC-ABAC-4BFC-8D10-B7B1BBCFCB1F.html I think Cybertruck is the only one where that is mandatory, but Elon sure tried to push it.
Ok, like an airplane yoke. But why would you want a yoke in a car? Do they make them super sensitive so you don’t have to rotate them as far? Otherwise it would be awkward to do tight turns. I’ve used yokes before…in Cessnas. This is the first I’ve heard of them used in a car. I suspect it’s just a gimmick.
Yah someone else gave me a link with a picture (see the convo just below this one). I can’t believe they put a yoke in a car. It doesn’t make sense in a car, like a steering wheel does because of how much you turn relative to the deflection of a steering wheel (or yoke in this case) in a car. Unless they are making the yoke way more sensitive than you’d want in a car but then that begs the question: why?
The omittance of the signal stalk has Musk's musk all over it. Only a moron would think digital touch would be better than decades of proven lever development. Turn steering wheel; activate lever. Simple.
That’s what I had assumed which seems like it would be massively error prone. But elsewhere people have explained it uses buttons on the steering wheel which could make it awkward to use especially when not driving straight. Reinventing time tested car designs have led to tragedies, like with Kelvin timeline Chekhov, Star Trek actor Anton Yelchin. I think it was a Jeep and they redesigned the transmission so when he was coming home he apparently thought it was in park and he went to get his mail and the car rolled forward and pinned him. As it was 3am nobody was around and he suffocated to death.🥺
Well done, Musk. Tesla fans deserve this.
They have buttons on the wheel. And of course, rather than being on the left and right sides they are in the same side one on top of the other 🤦♂️
That's the Airplane Controls that Elon thought to be so cool and useful in cars.
The reason for yoke is that Elon thinks it’s cool. And then the fans convinced themselves that it somehow is a good idea.
Yes, we know.
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100%
It generated headlines and buzz. Tesla is always trying to tap into that. Sometimes they go a little too far in a few places.
Jesus Tapdancing Christ... It's bad enough changing the turn signal stalk to capacitive buttons, but they couldn't even put the buttons side by side? Stacking them is the least intuitive way of doing it, aside from putting them in the glove box.
I liked how you proposed a worse scenario just for the thought experiment. You took me there with you.
I think that is, in fact, the idea. In Elon's mind, everyone will use FSD all the time, and it will take care of the turn signals, so a user control really isn't needed. Granted, no-one moderately in touch with reality would think that.
What is this, a low end home computer keyboard from the early 80s? Maybe next he'll make them membrane buttons.
Remove it, then charge to put it back. It's an innovation on the scale of the "razor and blades" model - and proves Mr. Musk's genius.
Cutting the two levers saved $100 on the BOM. x 2M/yr production that's $200M/yr x 80 P/E that's +$1.6B of stock valuation x 1/5 that's +$300M net worth to Elon
I don’t know, tons of the faithful or just tech obsessed seemed to be very vocal in supporting the ideas. Most of us regular people WANT physical buttons/stalks and could stand to have less nanny systems in the car.
Good consumer, grab this 5¢ coupon for cloth softener.
What is the market for this? I thought everything was easier on an ipad
A yoke does make sense on a steer-by-wire car like Cybertruck or the Lexus RZ, since it allows for steering sensitivity to be adjusted to your speed.
Oh believe me we all know, but Edolf wanted a yoke cause its cool and whatever the Nazi manbaby wants, is forced into production Teslas.
They should sell it as a subscription. Lost opportunity. Smh
I must admit that one of the things that would keep me from buying a new Tesla is the “no stalks” BS. The yoke was stupid enough not to mention the automatic drive or reverse nonsense. Basically, Musk is using us to debug is robocar fantasy.
The apple way. Remove something, and sell them the solution
If they sold back the ultrasonic sensors on the bumpers that allowed the car to self park and I park safely, they’d really have something! Or how about the old conventions rain sensors that used to accurately control the speed of the automatic windshield wipers?
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