> One wonders if this was as necessary as, say, maintaining the restrooms, one of which had a floor covered in piss and empty soap dispensers. Oh, and there were only three single-use bathrooms for an eatery that seats 250. Everything about the restaurant could be described this way. The article is filled with insight. Edit: Props to Elon for the gender neutral bathrooms.
Shocked I tell you. Shocked.
I wonder what his Ketamine Burger would taste like. The CyberCucks would love it I'm sure.
Finally some accurate Tesla reporting. God bless Miles Klee. Side note: why didn’t anyone at Enron think of opening a shitty diner?
Didn’t that happen at the Twitter HQ after all Janitors got let go? The bathrooms just stopped getting maintained.
Perfect couldn’t hope for any better.
>Edit: Props to Elon for the gender neutral bathrooms. I bet Vivian would opt to still not go there though. F Elon.
Promises much, delivers little?
Oh who cares about bathrooms when you have all that Mein Kampfort food to enjoy...
Well it served its purpose of distracting from earnings last week, so in that sense its mission accomplished.
Can you slash your hands and arms open on the countertops? Do the countertops fly off if you rub too hard? Does it brick if you spill a glass of water? (Not saying this to defend the diner, would def never go myself).
Screwing Ukraine with Starlink cut off won’t help much!
How are so few bathrooms allowed? I’ve opened several restaurants in several states and there are strict building regulations that dictate the amount of bathrooms you must have per seating capacity.
> one of which had a floor covered in piss Well, Musk needs to stay hydrated during his benders doesn't he?
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Planning laws are for little people
You’re assuming Elon operates in compliance of said regulations
Right; regulations are only as good as their enforcement
Elmo doesn't pay attention to any rule/regulation/law. He's way above all that :/ Any time I actually see a Swasticar on the road, I give it a LOT of clearance. I'm not being paid to be a Beta-victim!
I wonder if it’s an LA thing because I remember about six years ago when I drove down for a work thing that lasted a couple of months, I was surprised to come across a few sit down restaurants that didn’t have bathrooms for customers, and I’d never encountered that in SF.
Elon is becoming exceedingly efficient at sucking money out of its cult-base. The robots being used for decorative purposes only is hilarious while the toilets are filthy. Darn lazy robots.
Why? Is there zoning related to height? Buildings go up and block views al the time.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250727224904/https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/tesla-diner-elon-musk-review-1235394091/ Archive version
For the most part the cult base fans don't even care. But then that's how tourist traps (and cults) work.
Spirit Halloween standing by
Did they all sign NDA's and get a few hundred in Tesla credit as compensation? The funny thing is none of the screens even point well at the cars. They could have put a few outward-facing ones. Poorly thought out diner.
The article says the bathroom floor was covered in pee, and you couldn't walk down the stairs - for some reason. Plus the frozen & refrigerated food left outside too long in the sun. The diner has its own unique problems, like the Cybertruck.
Robots don’t need bathrooms silly.
Can't even debut a functional eatery. Come on Elon it's not rocket science.
Is Elon trying to make EVs look bad by implying (as it will to all the anti EV brigade) that it takes so long to charge an EV that you'll want to catch a movie? I mean, really? I get the food and toilets (like any other service station) but the real benefit is being able to rock up, plug in, go for a bite to eat, and be on your way in perhaps 20-30 minutes max. What he's trying to create is some sort of theme park adventure where people will make a trip to visit. He really does have such a vastly inflated ego - and naturally he wants these all over the place. As a new convert from ICE to EV, my stops so far have been around 15 minutes and that's all I need until my next rest stop. I often find the car has reached the charge level I want before I'm ready. I may want to check my socials or reply to some messages, but in most cases I do what I need to do and then I'm back on the road.
Think he keeps asking Grok how to burn more Tesla cash while not making a good card.
I think is a nice place for product and brand placement, like the m&ms stores in NY or Vegas. Certainly is not profitable with those low prices and local high quality ingredients. The restaurant will also have a lot of flaws since it is not a “real one” and is just for show
Google AI says one per 25 people capacity, which would be 10, excluding employees.
This one is better… https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/dPuSq4uHRZ
This was amazingly written! Hilarious and scathing and insightful!
Elon could never go there with his tiny bladder
I love the concluding sentence: “The worst part is that he’s not even embarrassed.”🤭
If you have severe enough food poisoning you can disassociate without ketamine. Who needs the K-hole when you’re busy dealing with your A-hole?
Zoning includes requirements for things like setback - you can't just build 5 storeys up right to the lot line. I don't know LA zoning but I would bet this is a "beg for forgiveness" situation where he wanted to have a big launch and then blame the city for shutting him down.
In one thread people were saying how great the bathrooms were because the toilets were wall mounted not floor mounted for easy cleaning by the robots. So guess they have to wait til they have working robots to clean in there.
Most places do have planing permissions that include heights. For just this reason.
I can't believe that bullshit screen was approved in front of those apartments.
I've been to plenty of Planning Commission and City Council meetings where residents complain about losing their view to a development - so it is a common complaint. Sometimes the residents win...sometimes they don't. But what's unique about this: If I build an apartment building right next to your window, there will be some set of *Architectural Standards* I have to abide by, to make sure it looks decent. In this case, they're looking at the back of a screen instead of a nice building - that is unusual. Also there are generally setbacks along property lines - it appears this screen is right on the line. Furthermore, there are often increase setback requirements or landscape screening requirements when you put commercial right next to residential. And to answer your original question - Yes. Maximum Height is commonly listed in zoning codes, for each district. And in some urban environments, as you go higher, the setback increases. No idea what the zoning restrictions are here...but having attended hundreds of hearings for new projects, this one does strike me as unusual with residents staring at the back of a screen. Hell, some cities even require the "good side of the wood fence" to face residential...and here people are staring at the ugly back of a screen.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-diner-grand-opening-hollywood-review-weird-fun-good-food-2025-7
Robots serving popcorn is his contribution to technology and society on earth.
You'd think a company partly predicated on environmental consciousness would have at least one vegetarian entree or even side. Even the fries are made with tallow. [https://www.tesla.com/diner-webapp/menu/#5068f68d-cdd4-4ab2-8183-1835d9b76646](https://www.tesla.com/diner-webapp/menu/#5068f68d-cdd4-4ab2-8183-1835d9b76646)
Id toss a large rock out the window at that screen if I loved there
Robots being teleoperated serving popcorn.
Some suggest it’s just people in robot costumes.
Did Elon gut funding to said regulators recently? Or perhaps regulatory bodies know if they try and enforce on Elon they will be dismantled and probably death threats and / or online hate for any public officer with a social media profile. Rules only matter if enforced. An environment of confusion and uncertainty makes that hard.
The Rolling Stone article has photos.
No shit zoning exists. If you don’t know what the zoning is for this area why bother commenting
No that is not the reason. Two buildings the same height would block each other.
Some of the menu items have already been removed. Can’t find the lettuce burger or the bacon strips. Hasn’t even been operating for a week.
So does google maps reviews. Rolling stone is notoriously a left leaning publication. I’m not saying there isn’t truth to it, but be aware of potential biases when reading an opinion piece like this.
Both items called out in the article… bacon for being sickly sweet and as limp as Elons dong and the lettuce burger for people not understanding it wasn’t a burger with lettuce, but a burger with lettuce for a bun.
Elon is the cybertruck of billionaires (read: subhuman parasites).
If he can't piss, neither can anybody else..
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Nice of you to think any of this was approved and followed any regulations
Most are. Which is what I told them. lol.
Thank you. I didn’t hit a paywall, but assume others did based on this :)
My wife was startlingly creative in the abuses she would heap on that if it were our balcony…
3 opportunities for process removal and 1 massive captain obvious point. 1) Why the fuck would you do a drive in theatre showing crap when your car has a screen? - delete. 2) Why the fuck would you build a diner when you're not an expert at food? - delete. 3) Why would you get robots to work at a restaurant on insanely complex tasks? - delete. 4) Why would you NOT enable all the restaurants around to take orders in advance and deliver to people in a carpark charging, while waiting and watching content on their own screens and clip the ticket via your payment system. Which you can do at a world wide scale, almost instantly. Without months of permits and bugger all expense. Why? The? Hell? Not? It's like Elon fixates on the smallest part of the lean design model and ignores the strongest part. When you build simply, people can build accessories simply. Make an ecosystem for ordering food. In no time, you're going to have restaurants offering parking and charging space.
Items come and go from the menu depending on whether the ingredients are delivered or spoiled from sitting outside in the sun.
Illusion and speed. You put the biggest piece of shit together as fast as possible that looks like it might serve the original purpose and then throw a parade for yourself whilst everyone who believed you gets a solid Musking.
Look at those huge screens blocking the views from the adjacent apartment building. So considerate a neighbor.
You have to register or something to Rollingstone, I didn't bother.
Bribes local officials.
The front side could use a nice new coat of paint. A paintball gun would be helpful.
> Mein Kampfort food Dammit, take my upvote.
this place is brand new and already disgusting?
> potential biases when reading an opinion piece like this. It's an opinion piece. It is specifically meant to be the individuals view on something and not the factual reporting of news where those editorial biases should be considered.
Yeah, that was old elon. Very, very old elon. As evidenced by the tallow fries, he's firmly planted his flag in the other camp.
> celebrity chef Eric Greenspan, who has competed on TV shows like Iron Chef and Guy’s Grocery Games and developed MrBeast Burger Sounds like the kind of celebrity and billionaire bootlicker one would expect to have been tapped to run such a place. The whole thing sound as cringey as one might possibly expect from just hearing it was one of musk's ideas. Seriously, how do you screw up a retro-inspired diner that badly?
It takes four years to make sure you don’t accidentally get something right.
Some buildings and licenses are grabsfathered in. But it’s not common for any kind in any remodel.
What insanely complex tasks are the robots doing?
How do you fit a diner on a flatbed?
SpaceX will figure it out.
See comment above…
It's very on brand. Elon said he was going to build the best truck, and built one that's barely functional.
That’s not Elon. It’s West Hollywood their local building ordinance requires single stalls be general neutral since 2014 and multi stall bathrooms since 2021. Statewide SB1194 gave WeHo the authority to require new development or major renovations.
I heard the food there is terrible. The main product doesn’t even work Elon
Not opinion/facts: One wonders if this was as necessary as, say, maintaining the restrooms, one of which had a floor covered in piss and empty soap dispensers. Oh, and there were only three single-use bathrooms for an eatery that seats 250. Seems to me what you linked to was more of a biased ad than Rolling Stone.
That is just cost cutting.
I cannot imagine what the EIR was for it - the neighborhood is not built for congestion.
Codes are just the minimum. There are also best practices that any commercial architect or interior designer will have memorized.
The same people will complement Elon for making cars with 4 wheels.
It was meant as a poke, not a compliment :). Were it up to Elon they would have segregated bathrooms.
You seem nice
At this point? Nothing. It’s all smoke a mirrors.
And that's not even considering that fact that it's also a charging station and there are presumably people stopping for a quick charge and bathroom stop, without eating.
"What is my purpose?" "You serve popcorn." "Oh my god!"
Don’t worry, he’ll just put an Optimus right on cleaning those bathrooms.
I fished around on the zoning viewer for LA and found the site. You can click onto the site and find truncated permit information. Most of it was jargon specific to LA that I really don't understand...but there does appear to be a scoring system that involves public transit. And, this site is apparently close enough to public transit to get a good point rating in that regard. Also, reading the tea leaves on the permits - I think they demo'd an existing restaurant. Through the magic of Google Street Viewer, I can see that it was called Shakey's Pizza Parlor. That probably helped their case - although one could argue this new restaurant has more than a local draw to it, and generates more traffic.
That reporter was just serving. Bravo.
Stocks up 3% today on the news. So a week after the worst earnings so far it's back to where it was before earnings. SMH 🙄
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I am blown away.
Rather hard to clean a bathroom when you have a lineup.
Why does this place have so many 5 star reviews? Who's paying for these reviews? I can't believe there's that many MAGA freaks in LA. Who the fuck wants to eat in Hitler's Diner?
I mean when you have one fifth of the bathrooms needed, they become gender-neutral by necessity.
It's funny you say that because I worked at SpaceX when they opened the cafeteria there and it was just as much a shit show as this restaurant sounds.
I'm going to have a good chuckle when this POS gets shuttered and placed behind shitty, portable chainlink fencing, scheduled for demolition in a couple of months...if it even takes that long. Everything that comes from Elon's imagination is so fucking banal and underwhelming.
Disney animatronics are more advanced than Optimus ever will be.
He doesn't know. Elon doesn't know. Because of course he doesn't. Elon just has a brain fart, then orders some minion, with much bluster and fanfare, to make his dumb vision a reality on repeat. Nothing is well considered, nothing is thought through, nothing is designed, just stream of ketamine fueled "cyber consciousness" drivel because he thinks himself to always, always, always to be the smartest guy in the room.
What’ the purpose of the screens when there are so few parking spots facing the screens? has he seen the layout of a drive in theater?
He is disrupting the toilet industry
I think I remember my grandfather telling me that once.
Elon: Tesla is now a restaurant chain. Techbros: Shut up and take my money!
ALPHA victim, more like, because ALPHAd drive CyberTrucks
Laws shmaws. Elon knows best.
Bathrooms are a waste of resources apparently.
..that sounds like a nice lady. Do you know if she's single?
Poorly constructed garbage that keeps breaking down
Yes. Fairly pathetic overall especially tesla’s misleading named full self driving.
Believe it or not, 3 is actually at code; there's probably a fourth employee restroom that means it accounts for 75*4=300 seats. Also, I see people giving Elon credit for the gender neutral bathrooms but that is actually code in that area: SB 1194 and West Hollywood Ordinance 22‑1200. Figures that Musky boy would do the bare minimum and still trip over flat ground.
The idea was great - a place to charge EVs with solar power and eat a meal or get some casual entertainment while you wait. The implementation, on the other hand, leaves a lot to be desired. I do think the names of the items are kinda funny though
Honestly, I think that the majority of reviews are paid plants. It wouldn't be the first, second, third, or fourth time that he's been caught manipulating public perception.
Did you happen to see those photographs of the bigly Tesla Burger ($13) and 'side-dish' Epic Bacon ($12) on Rollingstone ? Hah. It's pretty much abusive at this point.
The environment was a selling point, don't think he really cares considering how he is powering for example his AI data centers.
I think the intended meaning was looking at Musk’s vision of robot servers. having robots work in a restaurant only makes sense to people who have no idea how hard it is to work in one (front or back of house) or how complex the work is.
BoH I can understand, but there are already Denny’s restaurants with FoH robots and even having said that, there are McDonald’s that have BoH making the food.
Cockblocked. Link is locked with a toll gate.
Because Elon has a net worth of 400billion+ which could generate 16 billion a year just in passive cash flow if it was put in 3 month treasuries. Not enough bathrooms that's the the cities problem. For you, not enough bathrooms that is your problem and the city will enforce it. This is why the oligarchs are outcompeting small business because they can do whatever they want where as small business would be choked in a sea of red tape. We reached the Government is now a tool of the oligarchs to beat down everyone else out of the way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/s/rfgECVjsaj
In classic Tesla style, at the new tesla diner, you can order on line and prepay, and you will get your food in a few years or more, if they decide that that still want to make it.
You can opt to let the robot eat your food too, if you don't have time. It will be called Full Self Eating and you can choose whether to supervise or not. It's ability to 'eat' will depend on whether there's someone available to remote control it from the back office.
They will call that calorie free dining
Haha I did! I liked how the bottom bun was missing half on the burnt burger. They’ve actually discontinued the “epic bacon” after everyone on the internet was laughing at them about the menu picture vs. reality.
I feel like real people would break less
True
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