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Well, it's been just over five years since I posted Version 2 of the [tire comparison](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/d5q0z9/version_2_comparison_of_best_model_3_compatible/), and by popular request (and since my own Model 3 tires were getting a bit stale), I now present at last, an update - Version 3. Compared to last time, I've included tires for the Model Y (yay!) and around 50% more tires overall. In fact, most of the tires in the list are new or upgraded versions from previous tires. It just goes to show, a lot can happen in 5 years. The yellow (new), orange (existing from Version 2), and maroon boxes near the far left of the table indicate if the tire is new, existing or potentially discontinued from last time. Apologies to S/X/Cybertruck owners (sorry, u/majesticjg), but adding those would have been a royal pain, at least going by the multiple tire sizes I saw as options for the S. However, such owners can still look at the top picks and check if a tire is available in their chosen size. There's also a heavily improved ranking system which weights each score according to the number of ratings it has (more details on that later). TireRack average ratings are also more accurate (even more so than what they portray on their own site (!) - see later). As before, take all ratings with a grain of the finest Himalayan salt. Stats ~~may~~ will mostly not be comparable across seasonal types (e.g: people will rate something like "road grip" for winter tires very different than track demons). Of more concern, other forms of potential bias can creep in, including potential review manipulation by companies that may distort the final percentage. However, I've attempted to reduce this effect by taking into account three different tire review sites, and granting them equal footing for the final result. Now the notes! **Initial procedure to pick tires for the shortlist:** There was a much longer list of tires of around 340-350 tires before I fired around 80% (Twitter-style) to create the final shortlist of 72. I exhaustively searched on Tirerack and TyreReviews for the common sizes found on the Model 3 (235/45-18", 235/40-19", 235/35-20" (and the new 275/30-20"!)), and Model Y (255/45-19", 255/40-20", 255/35-21", & 275/35-21"). Criteria for chopping tires out included factors such as a low average user rating, low number of ratings, inappropriate load index or speed rating figures, or to push it over the edge, an uncommon tire (e.g: fitting just one of the rarer sizes above). Default Tesla-approved tires were included regardless of other factors. **Compatible with your car?** In theory, as long as you pick the right column for your car (3 / Y) and tire size (18", 19", 20", 21"), these tires should all be compatible. However, you may want to keep an eye on the **Extra Load** mark (reinforced internal structures, often with stronger sidewalls to reduce chances of a blowout from side impacts), **Load Index** (how much weight each tire can withstand) and **Speed Rating** (kind of how fast you can go before the tire's limit, but it's a [bit more involved](https://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/235) than that and can [affect safety](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byV_Pz78PY0) even if you drive under the limit). The latter two are shown as a number + letter next to the green ticks in the table (e.g: "98Y"). If in any doubt, go for a similar spec OR BETTER (higher) than your existing tires as some places won't even sell or fit tires on your Model 3 unless they match or exceed the specification for these attributes. Additionally, there's obvious safety concerns and even legality issues in some countries when undersizing. I also highly recommend you get a tire which has the "XL" label, as the vast majority of Tesla fitted tires have this attribute as standard. Having said that, curiously, the Hankook Kinergy PT, despite lacking an XL mark, and only being a 94V tire, was a standard Tesla 18" tire for the Model 3 at one point, so technically such tires can be used (sources: [1](https://driveteslacanada.ca/model-3/tesla-hankook-kinergy-gt-tires-model-3-aero-wheels/ )). Weirdly enough, you get low Load index ratings but with an "Extra Load" rating, and higher Load indexes without an "Extra Load" rating. Also watch for subtle variants of a tire. For example, the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S has three variants for the 20" version of its tire for the Model 3, all of which are labelled 235/35-20". One of them has the style as "Blackwall", one as "N0(Porsche)", and the third as "T0 Tesla, Acoustic Tech". I think you can guess which is the correct one to go for. If with other tires, there are similar variants but no mention of "Tesla" in the style, again look for the XL mark, Load Index and Speed Rating, and pick the one which is similar (or better) to your existing tires. For example, the Pirelli P Zero (PZ4) has two tires labelled "235/45ZR18". However, one has a "(98Y)" mark and the other is "94Y". Most Model 3 tires use something on (or close) to the former, so you'd go for that. And a small note: Unless you're looking to really maximize range, you don't really need an "EV tire" for an EV car. Some of the strongest tires on a Tesla in terms of traction/safety are non-EV specific. Source see 22:50 in the video from [this site](https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/videoDisplay.jsp?ttid=327). **Global versus US tire availability** The green tick boxes under the Model 3 and Model Y tire size columns indicate if that tire is available for your car. However these are generally only taken from the US TireRack site. Tyrereviews.com (expanded from the UK) and BlackCircles' tire availability was much more patchy and inconsistent as tire sizes were in one minute and gone the next. During the creation of this project, I found this unreliable availability of sizes was also present a bit on Tirerack so don't be surprised if your chosen size isn't available anymore. Equally though, even if a size isn't listed (green ticked) in the table, it may worth checking in case it becomes available again. Finally, tires available abroad may not be available in the US and vice versa, or they may even come under different names. **Miscellaneous stuff** - **UTQG traction**: I wouldn't trust the UTQG traction rating since that test looks for the braking capability for stopping of a [locked tire](https://youtu.be/PT2odY3C6Og?feature=shared&t=492) rather than one which turns at or near its limit due to modern ABS, and it turns out there isn't a simple correlation between these two. - **EU tyre label**: Due to [reservations from last time](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/d5q0z9/version_2_comparison_of_best_model_3_compatible/f0ndt0c/), and patchy existence of data, I have omitted the EU tyre label stats from the table this time round. I may put it back later. - **Tire efficiency, fuel-efficiency / rolling resistance**: Like last time, I had trouble looking for consistent data, but I may add this stat to the table if something is found. Most sources for this sort of thing only compare a limited number of tires at any one time (e.g: [1](https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Low-Rolling-Resistance-Tyres-VS-UHP-Tyres.htm), [2](https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm) ). Consumer Reports [offers something](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tires/c200973/#categories=200974), but even there, most of the tires in this list aren't featured at CR, and I would be reluctant to list them due to copyright reasons. The EU tyre label has the stat, but that has its own problems as already mentioned. - **Rim protection**: Some people may want rim protection so that they're less likely to damage their wheels. Look for tire labels such as RFP or FP. In addition, many tires may skip the label yet still have decent protection. For example, my CrossClimate 2's have about an extra millimetre of rubber (3.5 -> 4.5mm) sticking out from the tire sidewall compared to my old Michelin PS4's, despite no mention of any FP label or similar. - **The Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02** (and to a lesser extent the Bridgestone Blizzak LM001) was one of the worst tires I found but was added to contrast with the rest to get an of how ratings compare if you go for the bottom of the bucket. Bridgestone make some decent tires, just not these two. **Rating system** This is one of the biggest improvements with the table from 5 years ago. Instead of naively going off a rating, there's a technique [inspired by Bayesian probability](https://stackoverflow.com/a/50476254/848344) that penalizes a score when there's only a few reviews for it. In the old comparison, the Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack tire only had 18 ratings, but it shot to the top of the All-Seasons category with a score of 96.7%, almost certainly by luck alone. That same tire now only scores the equivalent of 86.6% on Tirerack (4.33*20 = 86.6%). TireRack provides ratings for almost every tire they list. However I was shocked to see how flawed their method was to calculate the final average. Instead of going by the whole AND half stars available from their user reviews, it appears they round each user rating down to the nearest whole number and instead use THAT to calculate the average (for example, a rating of 4.5/5 would be rounded to 4 for the final average). Luckily, I created a Regex to sift through the reviews and tally the user ratings (including half scores) DIRECTLY. I was careful not to count any unrated reviews in the tally of the final division number. Thus the ratings in my table are *more* reliable than the ratings TireRack give on their own site! As a small note, Tesla owner specific ratings from the Tirerack site are a column in their own right. These weren't given any weight to the final rating, so that can be a judgement call for you to decide. More info on rating system elsewhere in this post.
**Formula explanation (for us geeks)** For what it's worth, I included the naive way of calculating the Final Rating. In the table, the sub-heading is labelled "naive", so you should probably ignore it. In any case, the formula for that is: `(#TRV x TRV% + #TR x TR%) / (#TRV + #TR )`, where '#' means number of reviews, 'TRV' means TyreReviews, and 'TR' means TireRack. Simple stuff to calculate the average of many rated reviews. Now the "sophisticated" formula which uses the score penalization method described above when there's less reviews: - dilutionBias = 30 ' (subjective) - expectedRating = 80% ' (semi-objective) - dilutionBias2 = 30 ' (subjective) - TRVweight = (#TRV) / (dilutionBias + #TRV) - TRweight = (#TR) / (dilutionBias + #TR) - FinalUserRating = (TRVrating*TRVweight + TRrating*TRweight ) / (TRVweight + TRweight) - FinalAdjustedRating = (expectedRating * dilutionBias2 + FinalUserRating * [#TRV+#TR] ) / (dilutionBias2 + [#TRV+#TR]) I'm not going to thoroughly explain the formula (if you want to learn about that, visit that [link](https://stackoverflow.com/a/50476254/848344) from earlier and the next bit is a variation derived from that), but suffice to say what's happening is that the average rankings for each review site (TyreReviews and TireRack) are calculated, and each rank is given a weight, based on the `dilutionBias` variable, so that lower numbers of reviews for a tire will influence the overall amalgamation average (`FinalUserRating`) to a lesser degree. This number is then fed into a final adjustment formula (`FinalAdjustedRating`) to 'magnetize' the figure towards the `expectedRating` variable, again based on the number of total reviews for ALL of the review sites. This final bit uses the method explained in the answer at StackOverflow directly. The dilutionBias and expectedRating variable values are somewhat subjective and arbitrary, but I experimented and found what I thought were the most reasonable figures to use. Changing the dilutionBias values to even double or half had little effect on the placements of each tire in the final list, though the expectedRating (a number which is roughly the median rating of all the tires) had a fair amount of influence.
You got this on google sheets?
Lol, I just knew someone was going to ask that. I'll look into it ASAP.
Its impossible to to navigate on it like this. in google sheets you can at least remove unrelated columns or rows that are of no interest. Also this seems like crazy amount of work... Thanks :-)
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This is incredible, thank you! 
Thanks for the appreciation! It's taken months, with delays in between (including ski holidays, work and the dreaded tax return), but got there in the end.
The chart is unreadable. What was the consensus on best tire and size for model y?
Wow! Great work! I had defender 2’s on my last car before a Tesla and they were lovely. Really planted, especially in the rain. They didn’t seem to hurt my MPG, but I generally feel like grip and range are opposed. I’d love to see some sense of the range data for at least the top few tires compared to OEM. You can squeeze them on a Y as long as you don’t have the performance suspension
So defender 2s are the best?? Hmm……
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Wow this is amazing! Thanks!
The smallest size wheel (19" OEM, 18 is workable through third parties) is always the best for range/comfort. Larger size wheels are for aesthetics exclusively. Once you have the wheel size determined, you can figure out what you prioritize from there - aesthetics (low profile), range, or comfort (thiccest sidewall). THEN you can figure out what kind of tire you want - prioritizing range, handling, quietness, etc. Figure out which bis the best tire comes after figuring out what your actual priorities are.
The Tism is strong
Pirelli Scorpion MS 19's that came on our Y have been excellent so far 10,800k miles in. Handle nicely on the snow/ice as well on our trips to the mountains
Great work but disappointed that there aren’t any Nokian on the list and their consensus seems to be that they are good but is far too little on the net about them. I use them for both all season and winters.
Didn't see my most important metric, range.
https://i.imgur.com/f2K7391.jpeg
Okay uploaded! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZFr5yxXEXOXV7BHAbhZFeAHd0dBlMWh3YlNcft-vMzE
Try zooming in, preferably on a laptop/monitor, not a smartphone. Alternatively, try the spreadsheet I've just uploaded: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZFr5yxXEXOXV7BHAbhZFeAHd0dBlMWh3YlNcft-vMzE **EDIT:** Created a simpler version of the spreadsheet, with many columns and lesser tires removed: https://i.imgur.com/ZepYUbv.png And here's the spreadsheet simplified for it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_1o5iG9Fz7UuUr9IMjIgh7KvVjMdcQYsSgt3Ocr4FAY/
Thank you
Impressive amount of work. Which makes me feel kind of bad for scrutinizing at all. However, you really should be including Nokian Hakkapeliitta on any thorough list of winter tires (they are compatible). I suspect they'd end up at or near the top of the list.
And to answer your question: For **all-season** tires, looks like you can't go wrong with the Vredestein Quatrac Pro+, Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus, Vredestein Hypertrac All Season, or Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. For **summer**, depends on the size, but the Michelin Pilot Super Sport, and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S look good. For **winter**, maybe the Vredestein Wintrac Pro or Michelin X-Ice Snow or Pirellie Winter Sottozero 3 are the ones to go for.
I can't stress enough how tedious it was to compile all this. Last time tire-wise I think! Just wanted to help people (including myself!).
Did you test the new ion evo ones? What would be the size profile you would go with?
Cheers!
The world needs people like you!
See my "Tire efficiency, fuel-efficiency / rolling resistance" section in my main comment. Not easy to find data unfortunately.
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This is incredible. Thank you very much for making this, just the other day I was heavily considering and asking questions of switching my 24' M3P to 18" tires when the OEM 20s are done, kind of have an idea for wheels but was completely clueless on tires, perfect timing hahaha.
I have a 2018 M3P I rock Toyo Proxes A/S and they are pretty solid/well rated and affordable.
This is a work of art! Your spreadsheet layout is incredible.
What about new Pirelli PZero AS 3? great review in tirerack.com, clearly beat the rest of the pack, Continental #2.
Thank you for your efforts. Superb
I didn't test the tires personally. These are ratings and info extracted from Tirerack.com etc.
The "Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3" is shown seventh in the table, but not quite the same. Don't think your exact tire is featured on Tirerack unfortunately.
Did my best. Here's a simpler version for those who thinks it's info overload! https://i.imgur.com/ZepYUbv.png
Also created a simpler version: https://i.imgur.com/ZepYUbv.png
There's almost no data on the Goodyear ElectricDrive 2, how do you confidently rank it 81.1% ?
Thank you!!!
On desktop devices this image is fine, but Reddit unfortunately downgrades the image for mobile users, so use this instead: https://i.imgur.com/FQHxIOy.png Also here's a simpler version of the table with many tires and columns removed: https://i.imgur.com/ZepYUbv.png - (for people who think the main image is info overload).
I appreciate the 'tism here. I've been looking for an updated chart forever!
one of the few times I had to use my 49" super ultrawide's full screen to view something Great job! I went from CrossClimates to Pilot Sport AS4 and the ride quality and sound is better but efficiency did take a hit
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Yep having to go by just 27 TireRack reviews, so not the most authoritative. Ranked 21st, so not too high up anyway.
Seems like they're not rated for higher speeds though due to the V instead of Y. May not be good on performance trims or general higher handling.
Which makes it mean even less, right? Because if you had a 5 star rating with only 27 ratings and one person got angry and the 28th review was 1 star it would skew a rating way down to 4.85. And a more realistic base rating of say 4.8 for 27 with a single added 1 star rating takes it to 4.66...
There's no way a cross climate 2 should be rated better in noise than the stock mxm4. It's not even close.
i run Michelin ps4s period! Across 2 m3p's. in my experience of being in the Tesla world since 2020, these tires are consistent and show up for me every time. i drive spiritedly :-) I put my foot in the tank at the line every chance i can. these tires do not disappoint. 😈 🏁🏎️💨
this might be the greatest single data collection and analysis, of anything, I've ever seen.
I used to have PS4 tires, but honestly I don't think I can go back to summer tires after experiencing the luxury of the softer All-Seasons I now have. They use a softer rubber compound and I can definitely feel it's less jarring over road bumps.
Yeah, range and road noise are the most important ones. Aside from I guess basics like grip and safety.
You've labeled several tires as Tesla OEM... Does that mean those are the stock tires on a car Tesla sells?
Yes. Well, they either are, or at least were at some point.
The Vredestein Quatrac Pro XL suck on Model Y in the Colorado winter. Missing from this list are the Nokian WRG4 which have been amazing on my AWD Model 3 and I installed T-Sport rims in order to get them on my Model Y. Seriously the best tires I've ever used, works great all year round.
I've actually used the Vredestein Quatrac Pro XL on my AWD Model Y, and they suck for any wetness or snow on the road. I swapped them and my wheels so I can get the Nokian WRG4 on them. Night and day difference, all year round perfect drives even in rain or snow or icy conditions.
Add on the Nokian WRG4 as well. They work amazing in Colorado, year round.
I run Nokian WRG4 on both my Model 3 and Model Y in Colorado and they've been pretty awesome all year. But like any tire they don't make your car invincible haha.
Huh, I didn't know any Teslas came with hankook tires.
Yep, that was a surprise for me too, but they did: https://driveteslacanada.ca/model-3/tesla-hankook-kinergy-gt-tires-model-3-aero-wheels/
So it looks like for the model 3 performance the Vredestein Quatrac Pro+ might be the best?
Before I even read the chart I knew it was gonna say Buy Michelin, and after I read it that's exactly the conclusion the chart came to. You can't really go wrong with Michelin in any circumstance.
They're attached to the rim/valve, so changing tires shouldn't affect it the TPS at all
Can you add 18" tires to the MYs?
This is an awesome list! I really appreciate the work - it looks like a TON of work. Interesting on the ratings, my personal experience differs from what I see but I can see why they're this way. I see the Pilot Sport AS4's are much higher than the MXM4s. My experience with both is: the AS4s are total beasts in all conditions, but the range hit (15%) is too significant for me to want to buy them again (2018 Model 3 with 13% degradation means I'm down about 30% with the AS4's vs new car with MXM4s on 18" Aeros). That's before further reductions in range in cold or windy/rainy/snowy weather. The MXM4s are "ok" all around (but only lasted 25K mile per set, twice), but after having the Hankook Ion EVO AS's for 12K miles, I'd rather have those (a little bit quieter, but similar in all other conditions, and I think better wear than MXM4s).
Anecdotally it’s better for the first 50% of the tread wear in my experiences with 2 sets of each across two different cars
20in RE-71RS work just fine on my 2022 MYP.
I love the detail here but I am a person who doesn't even remotely care about performance. I want the absolute most efficient tire that will last the longest. I gave it a quick look and didn't find anything related to efficiency. Did I miss it?
It's surprising that the Michelin PSS beats the PS4S given that the latter is the upgraded version and usually considered a reference. They're taking their time at widely releasing the version 5 range but the tests I've seen show it to be even better.
This is amazing work. Thank you! What’s the chance of doing this for the model S?
As said elsewhere, unfortunately, it's rather hard to get hold of complete and consistent data regarding tire efficiency or rolling resistance. Personally, I prioritize safety over range, so if a tire is a bit more grippy in the rain at the expense of losing say 5-10% of range, that suits me fine.
Yeah, without Nokian tires on there the table doesn't contain any of the tires that I would consider for my 3 or Y. They do seem to be the most common brand of Tesla tires in CO. In general 3mpsf tires (all weather) should be broken out as at least a subsection of all season tires. There are a few such tires on the list in the all season category. Yes, I know that there is overlap in performance between 3mpsf and M+S, just as there is between all weather and snow tires.
Resolution is 7066 x 4604 so hopefully you're seeing that! EDIT: Just discovered reddit downgrades the image for mobile users. See sticky for a proper link.
Perhaps. Other comments are saying to go for Nokian tires even over that one. I would say most of them in the table are a good bet, at least in the top half of each category. I actually opted for the Cross Climate 2's in the end, partially because I needed new tires before completing the table, and partially because they're recommended so often in Tesla forums like this one. No complaints with grip, maybe a very subtle low pitch sound when driving, though I'm not sure if it's coming from the tires.
Yeah, I don't understand how all-weather is completely omitted.
Muchas gracias.
Where are the Nokian on the table?
Wish Tirerack featured them. Maybe I'll chance on them next time round.
Check out the top tires for the season you want and look for the S size of your choice in each of them.
Good question. I doubt it, but can't say for 100%.
Odds aren't high tbh, but look at the top tires in the table, and maybe there'll be a Model S-sized tire for them!
Unfortunately can't seem to get them in the UK easily. Scores don't look ***overly*** spectacular [from here](https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Nokian/WR-G4.htm).
Not listed because there just aren't that many reviews around, so we can't get reliable data on that.
Do it for Tesla model s big boy tyres 265, 295, 305 etc
Got it thanks
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Thanks OP. I think I have used the previous version of this sheet to select tires for my tesla. This was very helpful.
Any reason that the Hankook Ion Evo AS isn’t listed for the Model 3? I only see the SUV version for the Model Y in the chart, but the version for the 3 seems to be doing great in most of the comparison reviews/videos?
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I got the CrossClimate 2s for my '18 M3 with 19" wheels and while they are excellent tires, once they hit a certain mileage, they get LOUD. I'm not sure I'd buy them again. Edit: Oh, and range does suffer, but it's not anything suuuuper bad.
Yeah, mine hit a certain mileage and they got VERY loud.
I was looking for this the other day, found the originals from years ago, and boom, a new one. What’s the criteria to make the list? Tire has to be available on TireRank? Edit: thank you!
I feel like my range took a hit when I put on new tires (Michelin Defender 2). I don't have any data though.
Loud in what way? Whooshing or more like a tone?
Well Done!!!! I literally posted your old link [yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/1iuznkn/tires/me654uc/). I've had it saved for YEARS as it's so awesome. For the record, both of my Teslas are sporting Michelin CrossClimate tires as a result of your post (and having done 50000+ miles on them). Thank you for the great work!!!!
A lot of I guess...vibration/humming? I call it road noise, but it varies by temperature and surface. I thought it might have been a wheel bearing or something, but it was pretty much all the tires once I hit about 40% wear on them. I had them rotated at Discount Tire and they showed me all the tires and there wasn't really any extraordinarily uneven wear on them. The one with the worst/uneven wear was actually a rear tire and not the one I expected to have the worst wear, as I had been through an accident and the front needed to be realigned. They're incredible tires and I suspect that they have a very high rating because people don't really come back and review tires halfway through their lifetime.
No hankook ion evo is crazy. The AS is very different from the summer tires. Summer ion evos should be best range and best noise, I also did a bunch of research on this before buying
I just bought tires last week. Good lord why!
Finally I found utility for my 48" 4K monitor that I sit 3' away from.
What about acceleration and cornering? Performance summer tires are just soo fun to drive and I can leave for work 1-2 minutes later than with all-seasons!
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Nothing on the Conti eContacts? Was considering those for our Model 3 soon. https://www.continental-tires.com/au/en/b2c/eContact/
Looks like this was pretty tiring to do.
No shit... Huh.
Difference is skidding through red lights and stop signs on light snow with the Vredestein Quatrac Pro XL 20" and in same conditions coming to a complete stop as expected with TS5 18 + Nokian WRG5's.
no Cross Climate 2 ? /
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Now, what about Cybertruck?
Haha that's awesome.
Yep though lots of automation along the way.
It's there.
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I’ve been running continental extreme contact DWS tires on every car for 15 years. This is just more proof that I can stick with that tire for everything.
A solid pick!
I'm surprised that pilot sport 4s are rated higher than cross climates wow
Click the image again (and again) to zoom in. Alternatively there's an imgur link in the stickied comment.
This one: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1iwdqzz/version_3_2025_edition_comparison_of_best_model_3/med1cra/
> What’s the criteria to make the list? Detailed in [my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1iwdqzz/version_3_2025_edition_comparison_of_best_model_3/med1cra/) under "Initial procedure to pick tires for the shortlist". I'll paste here for your convenience: > There was a much longer list of tires of around 340-350 tires before I fired around 80% (Twitter-style) to create the final shortlist of 72. I exhaustively searched on Tirerack and TyreReviews for the common sizes found on the Model 3 (235/45-18", 235/40-19", 235/35-20" (and the new 275/30-20"!)), and Model Y (255/45-19", 255/40-20", 255/35-21", & 275/35-21"). Criteria for chopping tires out included factors such as a low average user rating, low number of ratings, inappropriate load index or speed rating figures, or to push it over the edge, an uncommon tire (e.g: fitting just one of the rarer sizes above). Default Tesla-approved tires were included regardless of other factors.
It wasn’t just one time. Every time on the Vredestein, slide through any time there is snow. So far, after several times on the Nokian, have not slid through a stop sign a single time.
I'm on about 14,500 miles on mine and they are still good. It's crazy that Tire Rack lists them for $450/each!!
Whoa, I haven't looked them up, I wonder what Tesla sells them for direct, that's crazy expensive. Golden tires lol they last a long time so far at 10,800 miles they have like hardly any wear on mine, but I don't drive very much.
Sorry saw your methodology after commenting, I think my app auto hid. I was also curious about some Nokians, though not the same as others. I’ve been researching snow tires and Hakkapeliittas seem to blow the others out of the water, but aren’t on your list (Tire Rack didn’t stock them, so I figured that’s why).
Always nice to get the automation rolling.
Missing the Bridgestone Blizzak 6 235/35 R20 92W XL Enliten / EV that I'm currently driving on a Model 3 Performance 2019. They seem to hold up well against the default Pirelli tires.
Terrific tires but worse than PS AS4 noise IMO
Can someone just tell me the one to get? I refuse to use my PC to browse Reddit.
Try this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1iwdqzz/version_3_2025_edition_comparison_of_best_model_3/medakgi/
I have Cross Climate 2's on my Bolt EUV. About 45k miles on them, will probably put a fresh set on in time for Texas winter later this year. Overall a fantastic tire in wet/cold/snow/ice. The OEM rubber on my vehicle was Michelin's Energy Saver "self seal". Great efficiency, zero grip in even a slight misting of water. I'll take grip/safety any day of the week.
I’d be interested to see how the new Pirelli Scorpion MS stack up. Have to wait for some real world feedback.
This is awesome and thanks so much to put this together. I was curious why is the Hankook ion SUV rated fairly low down there? Is it because it is missing data?
80% ain't bad by any means. Almost all of the tires in the table are a solid pick.
Can somebody share this in excel format?
Thanks this is great.
Thanks for all the work investigating, parsing, entering, formatting and sharing! + I appreciate you sharing Google sheets files, permitting downloading for filtering/sorting etc is super helpful. FWIW I had CrossClimate2, they didn't last very long, but did handle well. Costco would no longer install them so I just went to Pilot Sport All Season 4. At least as new, they seem quieter, but appear to be higher energy use; I haven't yet put enough miles on to say with certainty though.
Amazing work! Do you think the next version could include some of those grandpa / grandma tires such as Michelin Primacy or Continental ComfortContact? There's a minor tire cateagory who are just want the ride to be quiet and smooth, not sure the official classification though, perhaps Summer > premium touring - summer?
On TireRack, the Michelin Primacy 4 only has a couple of reviews, and ComfortContact doesn't appear at all unfortunately. However, the Primary A/S is there if you look closely. If you want smooth riding, it seems A/S is the way to go as the rubber compound is softer.
Thank you for putting this together. I’m replacing my stock Pzero Pirellis which you have labeled as max performance with the Pirelli AS Pzeros listed as ultra performance. Can you please explain what that means in layman’s terms?
A/S won't match summer tires for general grip in warm conditions, but let's see what Grok says! > **Key Points** >It seems likely that "max performance" refers to summer tires optimized for dry, warm conditions, while "ultra performance" likely means all-season tires designed for year-round use with good performance across various weather conditions. > Research suggests that by switching to Pirelli AS Pzeros, you're gaining versatility for different weather, but potentially sacrificing some peak performance in ideal summer conditions compared to the Pzero Pirellis. That was just a small snippet from the answer.
Thanks for your help.
See: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1iwdqzz/version_3_2025_edition_comparison_of_best_model_3/med9iic/
Ok, so I need help here. I’m in the market to purchase a new set of tires for my 2021 M3 dual motor. Car has 35k on it and seeing this great chart only confuses me even more. I need all season and would prefer the best tire for noise reduction. I commute about 80 miles round trip to work twice a week. What do you all recommend ?
Here's a simpler version of the chart: https://i.imgur.com/ZepYUbv.png What size wheels do you have? Go for ones near the top of the all-season category. I'd go for the "Grand Touring All-Season" sub category, as those would provide a slightly softer ride too.
Looking for 19 inch. Forgot to include in my post.
The higher the tire is up the chart, the higher the percentage score and thus the safer the pick. Or at least that's the theory. Don't worry too much about which one to get, they're all a solid pick! Can't say which one is quietest as that's not a metric that's easily sourceable.
Hi all I need to find one tire of Goodyear eagle sport for my 2025 model 3. Do anyone knows where can I find one. All those are available on most stores have different thread pattern
I just put the new (launched in Feb 25) 20” Michelin ePrimacy on my model Y. Way better range than the pilot sport 4 A/S and super quiet.
And any thoughts about having a price vs score graph?
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Sounds good, but not at tirerack.
new to tires here, are tread-wear numbers higher the better?
So what's the best for the Model 3, for those with bad eyesight?
Try these two links: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1iwdqzz/version_3_2025_edition_comparison_of_best_model_3/med9iic/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1iwdqzz/version_3_2025_edition_comparison_of_best_model_3/medakgi/
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