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Interesting.
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Woo. I’ll be getting mine soon.
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That’s going to enable a lot of people to get one that were on the fence. Awesome. Just need single motor/feature removed even cheaper version next to get even more sales.
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It's a truck with like off-road tires. It needs AWD as standard but at a lower price.
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Anything similar to a Model Y you recommend from competitors? (in US)
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I would cop one used. Plenty of secondhand stock on the west coast..
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Probably a EV6 or ioniq 5. Lucid gravity is a bit higher than the Y price segment.
Kia EV6 / Hyundai Ioniq are the closest competitors but there’s also Mustang Mach E, the new Jeep one, polestars, Audi E-tron, and the Rivian R2 eventually. Probably several more I’m forgetting. Personally I would look at a Lucid sedan or the Kia/Hyundai.
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Yes, it’s been eligible since January 1st. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63323377/2025-tesla-cybertruck-federal-ev-tax-credit/
Eligible yes, but Tesla wasn't actually applying it until now for some reason
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Lots of people use the lightning to tow and haul stuff so not sure what you mean? Yeah it can’t replace an f250 etc but more than capable of doing anything an f150 does.
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$40k and a free wrap, and I’ll get one lol
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Or dollar with your vote.
In fairness I don’t see a lot of people using their ICE trucks as trucks either.
Yeah it could well be a regional thing. There’s a ton here in Colorado.
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Drop it to 60k with the tax credit, and I'll go through with my reservation immediately
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Too small
Aren’t they trying to remove the tax credit?
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40k and .99% financing and I’ll get one
Yes they were, from the other brands! Not from Tesla :))))
That sounds legit.
There are plenty of videos of them towing stuff on YouTube lol
Wonder why....
Would need to find the article but it was confirmed they'll be discussing it in their Budget Reconciliation stuff in a few months.
To be fair they don't exactly stand out.
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Congrats on making so much! FYI you can use your AGI of the year you buy it or the previous year. As long as one of those is under the limit, you should qualify for the credit.
They are made in America
I tow my 14ft enclosed job trailer every day with mine....
you need to really look hard at their quality control. i love what rivian is doing but they are going through some major growing pains with qa/qc and it’s really effecting their customers.
Source? I believe this is false.
And it shows
It doesn't have a flag I think they stamp made in America on it tho
Can’t imagine spending $70k+ on a car if you’re eligible for the tax credit but I know a lot do.
Yeah, drop it to $45k and I’ll get one. (We know you’re reading this, Tesla)
How is it eligible for the tax credit if it’s way more than $55k and doesn’t come with FSD? I thought adding FSD was the only way to be eligible above $55k
I meant quality and reliability wise.
Can you elaborate on this and provide sources? I think a lot of people are thinking about moving in this direction and could use more information.
I’d contend that Tesla buyers are not typically average consumers.
Agreed. Sources would be nice to see. I have a M3 which is almost paid for so I will be getting an R2 when it comes out. I like the direction that Rivian is taking.
Simply not a true statement.
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they need to rid off tax credit for Hybrid.
There was a bill introduced but it requires a supermajority to repeal via congress and the republicans only have a simple majority (not enough votes basically). Then there's the issue of filibuster. As a result, the only way to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act and any related expenditures (such as the EV tax credits) will need to go through the Budget Reconciliation process which is in a couple of months. So it's very possible in 3-6 months the IRA tax credits are gone, but for now it's still here. If you're confused about any of these things, i highly recommend asking Grok or some other type of AI agent for answers - they are surprisingly effective for learning about government related processes.
Talking about quality control in a Tesla sub seems pretty ironic.
The limit for trucks is $80k
Why, you don’t think a family making 300k should own a 80k car?
Yeah I know they want to repeal the EV tax credit, but I was simply responding to the claim that they want to keep the credit for Tesla only. I haven’t seen any source on that.
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you mean the quality that has improved considerably since the company started? just like Rivian will be able to do the longer they stay in business? as it stands i wouldn’t put a dime into Rivian as much as i love the R1T until they can greatly improve their quality.
go read the rivian sub and do some googling on their issues.
or go do your own research.
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Not true. Even the slightest.
“For some reason” I’ll give you a mango colored idea of why that would be the case
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Right. Because single digit percent trucks go off-roading every year. They’re going to be used for commuting. Picking up groceries. Picking up kids. Maybe put an end table in the back for a friend every other year. That’s the stats for trucks, they’re pavement princesses. Have you noticed the bed length shrinking every year? Passenger compartment a little larger every refresh. It’s an SUV, and those aren’t even used for Sport use much anymore.
And no, base model has all season tires designed for a smooth ride and great efficiency. Core wheels all the way, unless you plan on mudding or rock crawling on the weekends, but then you don’t even want the Tesla off-road wheels. They’re like 10K most since you lose the tax credit by upgrading to them.
I don’t think that’s what he’s trying to say. To be eligible for the tax credit, you need to make less than $150k single or $300k filed jointly. For single filers, to spend half your annual income on a car is probably not the best financial decision.
If you hate Tesla so much... why are you spending your precious free time browsing a Tesla subreddit? Don't you have anything better to do?
There are porbably alot of buyers that have actually been waiting for this, not as a matter of affordability but because they knew it was coming. And if you can save $7.5k, regardless of the fact that you can afford it, why not? It's just a smart financial decision no matter what.
You and 100 million other people lol
Lol "reservation" you reminded me I need to get my $100 back
They had a 6 week production pause back in November, but they've been back up and running since Jan 6th (as far as I know).
No friends, no life’s, any attention is better than the loneliness. He’s a troll.
Why not? Towing a large trailer hundreds of miles, sure, it's not practical for that. But throwing large objects in the bed or towing around a city? It's very practical.
You can still get the $7,500 off. Just lease and then buy out the lease.
Right. The income limit is not very reasonable for single filers to consider purchasing an $80K vehicle. For filing jointly, it's relatively reasonable to consider an $80K vehicle. I find the difference in limits odd. It should be more like $200k/$300k or just a flat $250K whether single or joint.
If you bought a vehicle using the credit right now, could they later change it and you lose the credit you already used?
Is the number of $150k and $300k gross or net income?
Considering most couples own 2 cars. isn't it more like 160 in cars to afford the cars qualifying for the discount on a 300k salary? Its not any different imo.
not at all comparable really from a financial health perspective, never mind risk of single income vs. dual.
I cant even get up my driveway in the winter without 4x4. Nevermind the need for it on boat ramps etc. Offroadings not the only need for 4x4.
Ah gotcha I didn’t know that, thanks
Wonder what that might have been 😉
Checkpoint
Yup. You’re not a majority. And have you tried true snow tires? They work better than all seasons on 4x4 - they can actually stop you.
what, this statement makes no sense lmao, so if someone is making $140k a year, they couldnt't afford a 70k car? Where is this logic coming from? $140k a year = ~12k a month (after tax ~9k take home) a 70k car today financed at (6%, 4k down, 72 months) monthly payment is ~ 1.3k 9k - 1.3k = 7.7k left of income. How is someone not able to afford a monthly payment of ~14% of their total income a month?
you are not paying off the entire car in one year.... like what? What are you guys spending money on besides rent/mortagage that you think spending 70k on a car with a salary of ~140k is a bad idea? What, you own a million dollar house with a monthly mortage of ~4k or something? Even then you could still afford a monthly payment of ~1.3k on a car with take home income of ~9k a month. I'm confused.
gross
Same boat, any idea how to go about that
I wonder why! Rhetorical!
Request it in your Tesla account (I think Web browser, not sure about the app), they ask for ACH info to direct deposit you the refund
Seriously. Not paying 80k for a scratch magnet. EDIT: Not paying 40k either. Hence the free wrap lol
Like any tax credit, it's based on AGI. So it's after all of your deductions and stuff.
Enjoy poverty, consumer
Are the body panels still glued on?
lol. Finally got rid of the founders series to get orders.
Thanks, Mr. Rich guy
We are not talking about what we need. What you need is two good feet and a week to get up that snowy hill. We are talking about what it takes to compete against similar items at a similar price. Sure a little budget Chevy Colorado might have a 2WD option, but above about 45k I expect all trucks and SUVs to just include it regardless of their off-roading pretensions. My little 25k Jeep Compass includes it. My 45k Model 3 includes it and no one expects it off-road. And none of those have compromised their range and handling to sport offroady tires. Electric trucks in Cybertruck territory start having things like 3 or 4 motors and locking differentials even in the onroady ones. I dunno what it takes to get Cybertruck prices/features in line, but slashing basic powertrain is not it. Does the base model need to drive itself? Does it need bulletproof glass? Does it need height-adjustable suspension? Does it need rear steering? Rear kids interior screen? Extra range? Etc.
Show me a 3 or 4 motor truck with locking diffs for under 70K. Much less 50-60 if Cybertruck did a single motor version with some features removed. A 50k work truck (58 before tax credit) with no paint to worry about, a simple interior with no heated and cooled seats, single motor, cloth interior, etc. would save companies PILES. My neighbor is wait for something in that territory to purchase (stripped down Cybertruck he says it perfect for him, just wants the fuel and maintenance savings, doesn’t really care about anything else) Regardless, statistically, when you lower the price, you open the product up to more buyers. Exponentially usually.
I’m waiting for the Scout. Haven’t decided if I’ll go full EV or the EREV but if they can keep price where they’ve stated, it’ll be similar in size to the R1S but $20k cheaper.
They have been selling non founders for >3 months now. They still have some of those and now give a free wrap to people who take one.
It’s not financially smart to buy an 80k truck if your income qualifies for the tax credit.. between the price tag and depreciation you just made yourself poor
How do I get this in Australia 😂
Even smart people can be surprisingly un-smart with car-purchases. People working in dealerships know horror-stories of poor people making even dumber decisions when it comes to cars. I got my used Model 3 from a seller who had originally sold it to someone else - but their financing fell through. If you need financing on a 30k car and the bank doesn't approve it - then that should really give you pause.
Why should the government pay for rich people's cars?
Yes, 14% of income going to towards a car a is lot.
How convenient timing...
If you're making $140k/yr and go out and buy at $70k car odds are that you're equally fiscally irresponsible in other areas as well. I don't care how much you make. A $1300/mo car payment is ridiculous.
Makes no sense, payment on a car is relative to how much you make. Making 140k/year and buying a 70k car is equivalent to making 70k/year and buying a 35k car, and equivalent to someone making 50k a year buying a 25k car. Someone making 100k a month can afford a 1.3k car payment. You are saying it's insane for anyone to buy a car 70k at all, doesn't matter if they are billionaires. Crazy
to each of their own i guess. I'm just curious what most are spending the other 86% of their income on.
Capitalism at its peak.
If you're making $100k/month you can afford to pay cash for a $70k car. Just because you can afford it on paper it doesn't mean you should. But you do you continuing to make banks and credit card companies money hand over fist.
Why? Hybrids are fantastic. And with rising electricity rates/Updated NEM guidelines in California at least, hybrids are better buys than EV's rn
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