Sorry about the motion blur 😂
give us max speed back!!
No joke. Without it FSD is a liability.
You have another issue with a TPMS warning right there
Yesterday it wouldn’t do above 46 in a 55 on standard. I took over. The lack of max speed is the main reason that I use FSD less now.
it's so frustrating. It makes using it in some situations almost impossible, especially when it fails to pick up speed limit changes. I had a LENGTHY section of road yesterday where the speed limit was 70 and the car thought it was 55.
Yup! I don’t know what they did to it but after this last update I was taken South when I was supposed to be going North.
Yeah yesterday I stayed 3 under in the left lane on CHILL so I switched to standard and it was like... Yep 7-10 over!
Not recognizing the speed is the WORST!
Your camera is unhinged
Bro just get off of mad max mode if you don’t like its behavior.
lmaooo
It does clearly say Standard there…
Max speed and minimal lane changes. It’s ridiculous when FSD gets you out of the lane you need to be in for an upcoming turn.
And they want us to pay for this…
I wish everyone would band together and cancel their subscriptions to force some if these fixes. We all know theyre using us as beta testers for unsupervised.
Look at the pic it's on standard not mad max
Massive issue with just basic Autopilot too. Won’t let me set a max speed unless it recognizes that there’s more than one lane. So there’s a 15 mile stretch of road where the car will only do 50 in a 45 despite local traffic doing 55-60, so IM the bottleneck.
MKBHD Mode
I understand why people want it but the hard truth is a “max speed” setting is entirely incompatible with “FULL Self Driving”. Just complain about the AI driving over so that the folks hear you and address the problem with their AI models.
lol. That guy is catching strays years later.
Letting FSD choose the driving speed would make sense if it actually did a good job choosing a suitable speed, but it's currently not consistently capable of doing that.
It's doing 43 mph in a 25 mph zone and in a parking lot? Or am I misreading that? I tried fsd and it was good but not perfect. Main issue was aggressive driving...mainly frequent lane changes and harsh acceleration in heavy traffic. I enjoy driving fast I just wanted fsd for when I couldn't or shouldn't.
Check your tire pressure asap !
Parking lot is destination. Likely what this is is a school zone they were passing during hours or after? And it’ll match the speed of traffic around it for those cases.
Allowing you to set the max speed will create problems because if you are doing 65 mph and set the max speed to 70, you get behind a car doing 64 mph. You attempt to pass at 70 and that car speeds up to 68 mph. You'll be barely passing the car and cars behind you will be on your ass. Now you'll be that guy sitting in the left lane not completing a pass.
It doesn't believe the limit is 25 because they have horrible speed limit reading. It frequently sees route 20 signs near me and thinks the speed limit is 20. Fortunately FSD ignores this and keeps going a proper speed while displaying the limit as 20mph. Unfortunately, however, the same doesn't hold true when it thinks the local 55mph should actually be 70...
Because autopilot was only designed for divided highways but will still allow you to engage on more local roads, but will only exceed the speed limit it knows about by 5 mph. FSD doesn't have this problem.
Atleast you can use the accelerator there. Try where the limit is 55 but it thinks the limit is 70...
A hard cap on the AI is far less of a problem than having to micromanage profiles. I could easily get in an Uber and request they not go over x speed. Doubly so if it was my chauffer.
Checks back of phone... Can confirm, no hinge present.
both are really annoying, no argument, but you can't use the accelerator there because as soon as you release it the car will go back down the the original speed, and if you press on the accelerator too long it will complain.
It doesn't actually complain for real. Yeah, it will blink but just keep holding and it stops after acting very angry for a while. The going too fast situation has no solution if sloth is too fast but the pedal works as long as you don't have to go over 85, though yes it's very annoying.
I love it so much when FSD switches into the exit lane that I'm supposed to be in and then tries to switch out of it < 0.5 mi from the exit even when the adjacent lane is slower and the exit lane is clear 🙃
At that point I'd rather just hand drive the stupid thing. Holding the pedal while it flashes is just so obnoxious. It wasn't actually that great BEFORE they took away max speed, but wow is it annoying now that it's gone. School zones are the worst! Mine NEVER sees them.
I loved the Minimal Lane Changes feature. Sometimes I don’t need the navigational AI to optimize. Sometimes o just want to stay in this lane and let the car manage from there.
I subscribed to FSD for 3 months recently and this was one of the more annoying things to have to get used to again when I let it expire.
Yeah, I have problems with school zones daily but it does detect the one on my wife's way home that actually has a speed camera thankfully. After about 30 seconds the flashing stops. It's not that bad as long as you are consistently holding it. But it's annoying since it shouldn't be necessary unless it's limited due to weather.
Easy fix - you use the accelerator when attempting to pass in this scenario. You're also ignoring the problem the current implementation creates, which is where max speed and aggressiveness in lane changes are tied together. I'm using standard where the speed is too slow for the traffic patterns and conditions in my area, but the lane switching logic is acceptable. Going to a faster profile introduces aggressive lane changing that is not necessary.
Sorry, best we can do is min speed and maximal lane changes! /j
Just use "Chill" if it's going too fast.
I can't wait until we let these things go and just enjoy the fact that our cars are driving us around instead of acting like the first ever self-driving cars that are purchasable by consumers are "ridiculous" for having weird issues occasionally. I think we've lost the plot here a little bit.
Do you guys not realize that we're on the path to FSD choosing better speeds, though? Maybe the FSD elders have a different perspective, but these problems won't last... they never do. It just takes time and FEEDBACK (AKA use your damn speed profiles, people!!) from FSD supervisors. It drives me fkn insane when people post images like this and they're in "Standard" mode... if you want FSD to get better, stop letting it do stupid shit so Tesla can use your overrides as feedback for the system... that's what we're there for.
Exactly, I've been saying (amongst a wave of angry downvotes) that speed & driving aggressiveness have to go hand in hand or you're going to piss off other drivers.
Reddit, the king of downvotes lol. Even when it's an undisputable fact, not an opinion
It could just be the sensor broke. Ive had that warning for 20k miles, because only 1 sensor is out so i can tell what the pressure is anyway. But not enough of an annoyance to use the warranty yet
It’s bizarre. I’m a Reddit elder and we used to harp on how “the downvote button is not a ‘I disagree’ button” but that’s how everyone uses it anymore.
Could you share how you send your feed back to Tesla when your car is going too slow (std mode) or too fast (hurry mode) on the highway ?
This is why I choose auto steer over fsd. I want to choose my speed, and have a consistent speed.
Don’t think plot was lost... just expressing the features are missed and that it’s nonsensical to change lanes multiple times in a short distance to an exit/turn. I praise FSD and have opened a lot of my peers’ eyes to the capabilities of current and past Tesla vehicles. Take a look at my page and you’ll find a post regarding a 5000+ mile road trip primarily with FSD engaged. I love these cars. I simply miss having the reins on a small piece of FSD.
I stand corrected. I’m a knucklehead. Sorry.
If autosteer was even remotely as good as fsd I’d consider it but it does a terrible job on the roads I’m on.
There's a heavily traveled section of an arterial near my house that FSD routinely flips back and forth between 25 and 55 every half block or so. We will ignore the fact that the speed limit for that section of road is 45 the entire length.
I really just want it to give me more than an eighth of a second with the turn signal on before it executes a lane change so I can actually cancel and then for it to actually respect the fact that I canceled the lane change and not immediately start another lane change 1 second later.
Every time you make a change to the system, you're giving Tesla feedback about how FSD is doing. That includes: pressing the accelerator, changing speed profiles, pressing a turn signal, and pressing the brake (shutting off FSD). The absolute best way to give them feedback it to turn off FSD and leave them a voice note saying something like "the speed choices are too fast/too slow for this area compared to other traffic". What I do is change between the speed profiles until I find one that's comfortable, and if none of them are comfortable I shut off FSD and leave a voice note.
"Minimal lane changes" & "Max Set Speed" were never meant to be "features" of FSD in the first place, though, guys. They were bandaids that helped keep FSD mostly usable during a time where Tesla knew the system wasn't smart enough to choose the right lanes/speeds. >I simply miss having the reins I know, the issue always comes down to wanting more control, but Tesla isn't designing a system that's meant to be controlled in the first place. I'm not sure why that's such a contentious point on this sub. >it’s nonsensical to change lanes multiple times in a short distance to an exit/turn Does it matter if you get to where you're going? I can tell this jump from level 2/3 ADAS to full autonomy is going to be a tough pill for some people to swallow. Again, Tesla's goals are full autonomy, so if your goals for FSD are to get more and more control over it you're just barking up the wrong tree, ya know?
Zero issues https://preview.redd.it/4v4bx0vczhog1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d04eb537954bef4685c962488f6943cc38dcbc71 54% of our driving is FSD
Me trying to stop it from leaving HOV every 4 seconds
So you expect them to create two completely different models, one for the robo-taxi and one for your personal use that requires human intervention?
Also realistically we have to know that what we have today is an interim situation. I think it's probably the best it's ever been but there is clearly still room for improvement. We know that 14.3 is supposedly a significant leap forward and we'll probably have completely different logic after going through again a few more point releases to smooth things out.
Maybe FSD is trying to protect your under inflated tire by driving slow.
Check you tire sensor or tire is low
changing lanes into a lane that’s merging 20yds before it turns into one lane is embarrassing for you?
Wild
Mine thinks the 35 is a 20 because it actually misunderstands the speed limit changes between my street and the main artery. Guess what causes it to go back to 35 down the road? “School Zone 20 when children are present.” It didn’t used to do this.
Is this HW4 or 3?
Yes it does matter because extra lane changes are unpredictable, may confuse other drivers, can be dangerous, or may increase traffic because other drivers slow down sharply. If my exit is a mile away, I don’t need to pass the person in front of me just to shave a few seconds at risk.
You sound ridiculous
HW4
I just drive in Chill now because all the upper modes break the speed limit by over 10mph
I am 99% sure that in a lot of these cases, it's not failing to see the sign, but it is actively ignoring the signs. It's really bad on Texas state highways where it is _very_ common for it to refuse to read any speed limit sign > 55.
Yeah, it seems to like to flip to the speed limit for a perpendicular road or bridge momentarily.
In the past you could bump it out of autosteer/FSD into TACC, but can't even do that anymore. So you can't just drop to cruise control when it is doing the wrong speed :/
Yep! I’m also in Texas on state roads a lot. Oklahoma isn’t much better.
I mean, this is Reddit. There's no facts here. :D
I've had a HW3 tesla for three years and have had FSD most of this time. In my city, FSD just isn't good enough. It's amazing tech and fun to experiment with, but more stressful than driving myself. Highway driving could be amazing and I've had some really good trips, but after my latest road trip I decided to cancel FSD until they give us more control over the speed it travels and when it decides to change lanes. I've played the game of constantly switching driving modes but again, it's become worse than just driving for myself. Don't get me wrong, on road trips it's a tough call, as when its good it's amazing, but erratic passing behavior and speed control just lead to more stress than I want to deal with. The frustrating thing is that it absolutely could be basically perfect on the highway if Tesla wasn't so focused on the car having complete control over speed and lane changing. I've tried just using Enhanced autopilot and that's worse than my Wife's ID.4's travel assist as it seems to be on a completely different "stack." I get that Tesla is focused on complete car autonomy and that might be the right path for share holders, but I'm done paying $100 a month for a product that is going a different direction than my needs (and most people's current need in my opinion).
Because I'm telling you what Tesla has told us many times over? What's ridiculous is that this sub still can't accept that Tesla doesn't give a shit about your speed problems and is building FSD for their robotaxi network, AKA no driver, no set speeds, no minimal lane changes, literally no driver controls other than "where do you want to go?" Why is that so hard to accept? We aren't even the customers anymore, tbh.
Hw4?
Strange because it should state what profile it is enabled with?
And why is your solution to that problem going back to manually telling the car what to do? You guys really don't see FSD as an ever growing and evolving piece of technology that gets smarter over time, do you? Make corrections while on FSD, help the car do the right thing. That's how FSD gets better. I don't want to have to tell me car not to make lane changes... I just want it to make \*good\* lane changes...
Yes, but it still hurts and is bleeding. Put the bandaid back on until it is healed.
It only hurts for the people who refuse to use a different speed profile when their car is going too fast, like OP. Y'all have the option to make it not hurt, but you'd rather stay in "Standard", take a screenshot, and get mad on the internet instead for some crazy reason. Or, turn off FSD, slow down manually, and turn FSD back on. Try it sometime. It does exactly what OP wants (makes the car drive slower), AND it tells Tesla that FSD wasn't behaving properly due to the override so they can improve the next versions. If you REALLY want to help the cause instead of complaining on the internet, shut off FSD and \*leave a voice note\* about why you shut it off.
Some are saying that we can’t have speed control back because the Robo taxis don’t require it. But I would think even Robo taxis would want to be programmed to go a percentage over the speed limit. I like to go 15% over, which if the speed limit is 55 puts you about 8 miles an hour over. The percentage is necessary instead of a flat number because you don’t want to go 8 miles an hour over in a school zone. If they would bring this back, then we would have the speed control we need.
Our HW4 routinely does 47 in a 35 school zone in Chill mode. I’m considering unsubscribing.
Who said there wasn't an upside to having HW3 ....... I'm sure I won't regret this comment in future updates😂😂
Tell me about it. I got a speeding ticket for just that - 43 in a 25 zone.
Full Self Babysitting
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