New Optimus footage makes it look pathetic and years behind the competition

I would be more concerned if boston dynamics showed something off. Optimus seems very push-able.

The reality is their robotics is a marketing team, and they aren't even good at that. They aren't and won't ever be a player in the robotics industry.

280 teams participated in the World Humanoid Robot Games this year. Tesla was not one of them, as they don't have anything functional enough.

In the meantime in China.... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4J-4VOnXJI&t=1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4J-4VOnXJI&t=1s) 20 minute video, but if you (or anyone else) were under the illusion that Tesla are in a one horse race they're unable to lose, then this should make you think again.

Hyundai - that now owns BD will school fEl0n in the area of zero expertise. I’m here for it.

Wow. Their only hope is to keep faking the capabilities of these robots with remote human operators.

This thing walks as if its digital underwear is soiled and overflowing. Also hilarious how Elon is in the background giving excuses for its lame behaviour.

LOL

That's the thing. Just like, famously, Boston Dynamics they focus on the locomotion first. Once the thing can move stable and actually perform tasks, you can marry it with an AI. Once again, Tesla tries to develop back to front.

But but but a million robocybertaxi will be the number 1 cyberroboXtaxi on the road by the end of 2025.

"...tackling human work for $200K–$500K. Productivity game-changer! " Well how much 'human work' is being done by 85 year old demetia patients would be my question?

I can't want this to be hyped to be the greatest robot ever.

I would pay to watch 100 Optimus get destroyed by one [Atlas](https://youtu.be/I44_zbEwz_w)

Nailed it.

I like people who make clear predictions. Shows confidence. But with the amount of resources he has, his ability to attract talent and his clear desire to be a player, I think there is a very good chance he pulls it off.

Thank god that trillion dollar robotaxi will save the day until megatron or what ever is finished /s. It’s not like the head of robotics gave up and quit the company or anything. Tesla stock +10%.

If you see this year's Robot Olympics in China (as reported on CNBC), you could see how far behind Tesla's Optimus is. Basically Elon Musk is using Taiwanese components which are similar or inferior to China's offerings. Basically top students in China are all in robotics while Americans want to work at Wall Street, medical industry or software industry. Very few top students want to study computer hardware especially robotics.

I have a feeling this is something Elon said to Benioff that wasn't supposed to be said publicly. Publicly Elon claims it will be under 30k$ which is pretty much impossible considering the price cost of actuators, batteries and hardware to run the AI on it.

Optimus also perfectly emulates the full diaper walk effect of an 85 year old too

It's modeled after the US president.

I guess it could be president of the usa

It is pathetic looking

“It gets paranoid about spaces” Great, Elon has programmed a ketamine addiction behavior set into it

And it's not like after his Hawaii vacation is over that he won't be working for the competition.

They could not participate. If it would be devastating to lose badly, particularly when a much smaller company or some University project beats them

I lol'd hearing Elon at the end of the video saying that "it will be able to walk a lot faster". Gee whizz businesses are going to be falling over themselves to drop half a million (what happened to $25k?) on a robot that will walk staff to the kitchen at a snail's pace to get a Coke instead of just, like, pointing people to said kitchen. Or just having a sign that says "Kitchen".

Pathetically bad. I can't imagine they ever made it to the kitchen or found a Coke.

Wow, that’s so advanced and exciting. I always said how incredible it would be to have a robot with the communication skills of automated telephone banking, it’s such an exciting future that awaits us

Tackling human work for $500k? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY HUMANS I CAN PAY TO ESCORT YOU TO THE FUCKING COKE MACHINE FOR THAT COST?

That is how their shareholders like it... back to front....

I know exactly how TSLA can make Optimus 10,000% better: Rapid Iterative Design!!!! I know this because SpaceX dsciples have Muskplained it to me many times. All TSLA needs is: ***DATA!!!*** I don't know why they haven't figured this out yet, but go grab some C4 and start blowing up robots.

Genuinely made me laugh out loud. Presumably Muck told this goober to upload this 'private' demo to Twitter as he thinks it's actually impressive.

That robot walks like I do when my back is acting up. Also seems like it takes just as long as me to motivate myself to start moving. One of the most human looking robots, but just in all the wrong ways. You're almost there Elon!

Funny, the robot is just blazing a trail to the kitchen...with those mannequin hands, it couldn't even pick up a coke.

Yup, and Leon claims robotics will make Tesla a ‘$25 trillion company’

Just watched a Toyota-MIT robot pull parts out of a bin and continued to do work as someone kept closing the lid on it and even put parts on the floor. Seemed leagues ahead of anything Optimus is practically doing right now.

Easier to eat the mess left behind

The difficulty with being a polarizing figure is that you eliminate anyone who has a choice and is not a fan from working for you.

This is spooky with how human the movements are. If you put this in clothing with a mask it would be hard to distinguish from a distance or in a crowd. Optimus is a cheap childs toy in comparison.

Yeah, but imagine how good it will be in 8 years time... /s

Boston Dynamics is LOLing this morning

I think you mean 'next year'^TM

How can it even open the fridge and grab a Coke?

thing has fucking department store mannequin arms 😂

Put it in the same bucket as FSD!

The chance of his success with robots is ZERO. Please save my message and follow up in 1, 2, 5, 10, and 20 years from now.

It’s already more coherent and less corrupt. Just need to improve its ability to cheat on golf !

WTF? This has gotta be a joke or some AI video. Why would he let this be seen by the public if that was a real video? That thing is like the cyber truck of robots.

I love how he's trying to make it out like it's thinking *too much*. No no, it's not that it doesn't work, it works so well that it even experiences apprehension, thereby preventing it from functioning.

Even as far as car companies are concerned, Hyundai and Honda are decades ahead. Hyundai owns Boston Dynamics. This is what their robots were doing FOUR YEARS AGO. https://youtu.be/tF4DML7FIWk?si=veQVRZSF4FvZ5TDd

But but but didn't you see the runaway success of the Cybertruck?? And the Tesla 18-wheeler? And the Vegas lite brite tunnel? And the Boring company? *Wildly gestures at the air* And X being used as a banking option? And the robotaxis? And idk the rockets wherein NASA is doing the heavy lifting?

They create the mock up and work backwards.

Because he’s smelled so many of his own farts he actually thinks this is revolutionary

Looks like their robot tech matches teslas. Their cars still run red lights, not even adding lidar can fix that garbage.

Tesla stock up 5% on the news

I think musk might be a robot keeps saying the same stuff over and over again! Coming soon. Cab company’s are welcoming his cabs Not

The problem is that Elon wants Tesla to be an everything company rather than just a car company. The problem with being an everything company is that they end up doing everything really poorly as a result

I could have a Golden Retriever taught to grab me a coke from the fridge for less time and money than this metal heap, with the added bonus of a buddy to lay on the couch next to me and watch TV

Full self driving has been a year away for a decade now, there’s a word for lying about the progress of your product for money, fraud

Atlas progress is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYwekersccY

I had this exact interaction with an elderly employee at the grocery store.

And it's taken them years to get there. Tesla can't just skip anything. They're way behind

Exactly.

The thing is, if they admit they are a car company now that valuation is going to tank. They are stuck on a bad path

Elon: "yeah, but can YOUR robot walk awkwardly down a hallway???"

”It will be able to walk faster…in the future.” Damn this is pathetic. Can Elon actually stop talking about what they will eventually do in the future, maybe, and just show actual stuff that is finished and work now.

It's basically an investment. When you're not at home, you can rent it to your neighbour for 30k/yr. /s

They could probably make a lot of more money in profit if they just focused on doing good cars, but Mr Everything would get finished economically in that case. Its a paradox where Teslas actual performance as a company is hold back of its high stock valuation. Teslas greatest accomplishment is its 1 trillion dollar valuation, not actually accomplished by doing something but just hyping and promising, and the sick thing is that nothing they actually have on their table will justify it even if they succeed. Eventually it will fail on the stock market, but when it does it will probably start making more money than now because it would have a reason to focus on its core business.

The AI chip alone is 10k.

Hey, if it was hawking Crypto it would have become criminal - a first for robotic AI!

The old footage did too.

Maybe the robot is just high on ketamine.

I like that the clanker makes clanking sounds

👆

Yup. So what. The majority of serious people now think self driving is realistic in the not too distant future, and he’s one of the leader in it. I expect him to be providing the most self driving taxi trips by the end of 2026. As well as covering the largest area.

You’re legit not seeing straight if you think the chance is actually ZERO. Robots will be a thing. He’s got a robot arm of his company. That alone should be enough to get you to 1%. If you’re actually being rational.

The head of software engineering, the head of battery architecture, the head of the Optimus project etc. etc. have all left in the last 4-months. He’s not attracting talent, he’s LOSING talent. Lol.

That human landing system pisses me off. Even if the administration didnt cut funding for Artemis, they would never have landed on the moon because there is no functioning lander thanks to Space X. They want to fuel the damn thing in orbit, which would require multiple launches (at least 15(!) according to some NASA estimates) just for that. Dustin from Smarter Every Day made a video about the stupidity and unfeasibility of it.

I think think that above that, the problem is that the board is captured by Elon. When he harms the company, they should be looking for replacements, not bonuses of tens of $billions.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYwekersccY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYwekersccY) This is first one have seen were "new Atlas" uses hands (and vision) with realtime adaptability.

Unfortunately they will be a player because Musk basically owns our government now and gets contracts on demand. DOD is even contracting to buy Cybertrucks for target practice, it’s just an unimaginable scale of corruption.

The vision of them getting trounced by a provincial Chinese academic team is pretty funny though XD

But they made it gold this time. That has to be worth a few hundred million market cap.

Wow..... Optimus is way behind others. Slow response. Elon says "give him a little more room". Does Elmo know what grease can do?

He’ll be able to walk a lot faster, too. Okey dokey

Wow, Benioff. You were impressed by THAT? Makes me wonder about the company he leads. It has non functional hands and all it can do is lead you to a kitchen? Truly paradigm breaking robotics.

That's crazy good. Funny to see the hockey stick make a return. One day Atlas might stick it where the sun don't shine.

Ones that don't have functional hands. Like taking my 90 year old neighbor to the doctor, but far less capable.

$30K?!?!....

The extra own on Tesla with the "Fully Autonomous 1x speed" caption

It'll pay for itself! The future is here! Imagine these setting up a Mars base by next year!

If I was a Diabetic needing sugar, any sugar from the kitchen, for low blood sugar I'd die. It would probably get there and come back and ask did I want a sugary drink or did I want sweet lollies.

Same with Tesla cars, he doesn’t loan them to automotive journalists and accuses them of bias unless they fawn over the cars like cult members. He’ll do the same with bots and cult influencers will rave about the bot no matter what.

Ehh if optifuck loses elon will call the other team a bunch of pedos Just like he did with the Thai diver because his "sub" wouldn't work

And they’re not even a bad car company..I loved my Model 3 those past few years. But when the lease ran out, I got a Polestar 4 instead. After what Elon pulled with Trump, I can’t with good conscience give this company any more of my money.

It's because it is pathetic..

it's an appreciating asset!

This is literally the worst demo of robot tech I have ever seen.

I thought their robotics team are Indians with joysticks…in India

I watched a Boston dynamics robot on Instagram this morning. A million times better. Why is Salesforce even considering a partnership with Tesla with this garbage robot?

They can easily release a supervised version with remote control by user. Bullish !

Elon over promising again

It amazes me how anyone could not see right thru the lame excuses and believe that this is a company at the pinnacle of innovation.

wow, that was bad. and that's the clip they chose to post, so presumably the best performance it displayed.

That whole thing about the military buying Cybertrucks was obviously bullshit. The media reported “tons”, when in reality it was just two. Two that were already likely bricked and even less useful than normal ones. Why on earth would the military need to actually buy Cybertrucks for target practice when an ordinary, stainless steel dumpster would suffice?

What does it do? I just see it posing like Zoolander. Oh, and robots already do human work. Go on YouTube and watch footage of the inside of an automobile plant in 1965 vs 1985.

That really isn't the problem. As a car company, Tesla would be worth 1/100th of what it's traded at, and Elon would be broke (because he leveraged his shares). The problem is that Elon has a long history of lying in order to make the share price go up. If Tesla was just a car company, eventually people would ask car company people what they think of the car company, and the lies would fall apart. That's why it's an everything company, because "everything company people" are clueless idiots.

Now I want it to get mad and be like "Wtf dude, I'm trying to work!". :D

They have so much money though ... It takes a special talent to have so many resources and still display such ineptitude.

Oh, they will take revenge on us one day!

It looks like an old toy because thats exactly what Elmo used.  He had one of his lackeys raid a salvation army store

It comes back sticky

I really wonder what the ongoing preventative maintenance costs would be for any of these robots. Or repairs and replacement of parts. I've worked with robotics in biotech manufacturing. Maintenance is frequent and very expensive. And that is for devices that aren't expected to do anything imaginable, don’t have onboard AI systems, and are basically coddled by highly trained personnel.

Robot in a K hole is a novel technology, but how do you commercialize it? /s

Dont underestimate them...A 79 year old dementia patient is running the US government!

Has Elon tried blowing it up, though? I've heard that works wonders for development. After blowing up e few hundred, they might finally be able to handle that popcorn bag.

Plain sad lol.

The Indian operator probably had to wait for the translation of the answers and comands.

Can it play golf? So Optimus can run as next US President?

They are very much at the 2005 DARPA Challenge level lol

God damn that is one useless piece of shit robot.

That's been the case since the Asimo days, teleopetation or heavily staged for marketing

> But with the amount of resources he has, his ability to attract talent He also has the personality to drive away talent. Regardless, he's well known (now at least) as a terrible person to work for. >I think there is a very good chance he pulls it off. The problem is it take talent and vision to pull a big play like this off, and he has neither.

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Don't you see, they'll just leverage all that compute power sitting in Tesla cars when they're not robotaxiing everyone to work and back. Sure, it's only 2 iPhones worth of compute but you'll see. Hilarious that when it's put in a situation where it has to be mobile/not human managed, and can't be deceptively edited in a sizzle reel, it runs worse an ASIMO from 25 years ago.

Musk actually said $20k. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNNVK2dz9lE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNNVK2dz9lE)

I'm pretty sure Home Simpson is actually controlling it from a booth at the power plant. That's why there's such a long delay. Homer is kind of slow on the uptake.

but they did put a daft punk helmet on it so it's the best

The only way I can see him doing it is if he buys a robotics company into Tesla. But being realistic, only Boston Dynamics are making a product that matches up to what Musk is saying they are trying to make. Scratch that, they aren't making those bold claims he is even.  Hyundai aren't about to sell to him and even if they did the huge capability jump to autonomous all purpose robots at affordable prices for applications like home use? It's a joke

Sarcasm tags ruin all sarcasm

Sarcasm tags are shit

Why are you tagging that as sarcasm?

Everything good about Tesla was actually already laid out by the real founders. All Teslas designs come from back then The first real all Musk Tesla was the Cybertruck and that’s objectively been a failure.

Strange dig at Taiwan for no reason.

Tech demonstrations generally are used for marketing, yes. Honda never claimed ASIMO would do any of the things Optimus is claimed to be nor at that price. They were realistic as to what the purpose is: an R&D tech demo.

I predict they will buy working robots from China and rebrand them as “Tesla” robots just like “companies” like Oster, Sunbeam, Craftsman, Zenith, Whirlpool, and Hotpoint lol

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There is probably a retired 80's Hollywood animatronics tech wondering what the fuck they think is impressive

Ha same boat. Bought a Lightning. It’s really nice. But the software and charging on my Model 3 is so much better

Rebranding Chinese tech would probably work for them if Musk hadn't made the brand so toxic

Tesla is looking for the Allspark?

I'm guessing Elmo was inspired by Rosy the Robot from The Jetsons cartoons... so was I... Then I got inspired by GI Joe and Transformers, next it was Thundercats...

Even more awkward than Elon himself.

The stock makes me think they still have a lot of fans. Enough? Don’t know about that, but still a lot.

Boston Dynamics has already been cooperating with Toyota Research Institute in Large Behavior Models, and it looks pretty impressive. https://youtu.be/HYwekersccY

We anticipate that in two years optimus will be 50% of the new cars sold.

I have no way to rationalise the stock price. It really is it's own beast.

It can't even point a finger. It will just gesture its entire hand

They should have let the robot change its diaper first - Optimus walks like it shit it’s pants. Also, it’s a tiny bit laggy 😆 but maybe it’s stressed out over its robot turds and worried Elon can smell it?

I mean… someone needs to right?

Indeed. A $1 trillion valuation that is based on Musk's pie-in-the-sky oft-broken promises, i.e. a valuation built on a house of cards..

It responds and moves like Dementia Donny.

Wow, that's rough. Why would anyone post that? That thing was SO slow to respond or do anything at all. Andy WHY would you ask it a question that you knew it couldn't answer? >"Hey, do you know where I can get a coke?" >\*long pause\* "No." Wow, great demo.

Asimo was WAY ahead of this decades ago. So Benioff is another jerk-off Musk sycophant, too? How embarrassing for all of them.

Reminds me of one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTx46YLBT-I

That thing probably draws a lot of power.

This was a glorious demonstration of the robot that will replace any and all human workers beginning next year!

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" Impressive than an 86 year old movie quote based on a 125 year old children's book can perfectly describe Elon's entire growth strategy.

I don’t know how much truth there is to it, but I’ve seen it mentioned that the Model S and the Model 3 both were designed by “engineer for hire” contractors from Lotus. It would explain why the Cybertruck was such a shit show

And people trust Elon with driving their car safely

Earned the name

Another robot that makes Tesla look lame [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1theCfcFsA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1theCfcFsA) Clone Robotics [https://clonerobotics.com/](https://clonerobotics.com/)

It walks like an elderly Asian man

Jack of all trades. Master of none.

Well if you're looking at a 24/7 job, that would be three shifts + 2 for weekends and problems. That's five people, now remember that expenses for someone employed isn't just their salary, its a lot more. Then add in that these robots doesn't really need a management structure, they just need one location that manages the robot fleet. The actual profitibility of robots is insane, which is why all the CEO's around the world are so invested in replacing as many humans as possible, be it with AI or robotics, because humans are the biggest cost usually. How that is going to work with less and less humans actually having jobs, that can afford to buy products, is a different matter. Money isn't really focused on anything beyond next quarter earnings.

It seems like Tesla has lost their way and they are claiming “all of tesla relies on this” like FSD and now Robots. Just seeing what sticks.

Chinese ones sell for $6k

Lol. Lmao even.

They literally did, look at the Warner brothers videos from when the guests were talking to them after the presentation

I can't believe Marc thought the interaction was : 1) Film worthy, 2) Internet share-worthy. That was straight up pathetic.

I'm as confused as that robot appears to be. The tweet seems to be saying that it costs between $200,000 and $500,000 and the only thing I saw it do was take forever to figure out I want a Coke that might be in the kitchen. I don't understand what exactly a humanoid robot would even do in an office environment. Why do I need a humanoid robot to answer the phone? My phone system could have a built-in computerized AI to answer the phone and help my customers. Similarly, why would I need a humanoid robot to type on a physical keyboard? Instead the database, program, or app, would be integrated with the phone AI system eliminating the need for a humanoid robot to type on a physical keyboard.

those videos were almost all cgi. ..

Definitely some marketing and promotional stuff in there, but they're mostly available to buy, and are already in use. That's a lot more than Tesla has achieved.

And then add the fact that the task in question isnt demanded be anyone, and is worth exactly zero dollars. You dont need anyone to ever point someone to where the kitchen is. Robot = 50k usd, worth = zero dollars

Gimme an R2 unit any day over this. It’s

Yeah but that's obviously not the job these robots are being created for...? Have you started seeing drones wash windows on tall buildings yet? If not you soon will. Have you started seeing robot dogs patrolling mid to high end appartment blocks yet? If not you soon will. Google is currently rolling out autonomous taxis (That actually work without drivers, unlike Tesla). In ten years you will start seeing autonomous trucks driving on the interstates. Work is currently ongoing in replacing people on shipping vessels. The entire spectrum of jobs, wherever possible, will have their jobs replaced. This will be another revolution, just like we had the industrial revolution, this will be another one.

Yeah, same with my Polestar, software and charging really don’t hold a candle to Tesla unfortunately. That’s what so frustrating about Tesla…they could be a kickass company but not with that egomaniac at the helm.

well no, they would also have to figure out how to turn a profit. it's a lot easier to make a nice product when you're burning venture money with abandon.

Marc and Elon make a good pair now with how they both go to market with fake products.

Not even elroid himself

I'll need to watch that Smarter Every Day vid.

https://youtu.be/OoJsPvmFixU?si=xzV97P1Kim6FKILg

1) Agreed. It’s reminiscent of Woody Allen pretending to be a robot in “Sleeper.” 2) And yet, Tesla stock is up $4 per share as I type this.

Jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none

I thought it was reported about two months ago that all production was stopped because of a major issue with the hands and it was causing them to have to start over. They were having to completely re-engineer the hands because of the issues they were having. I can’t remember where the report was though.

>Gee whizz businesses are going to be falling over themselves With Optimus they don't need to fall over themselves, Optimus will fall over for them.

This implies that they’re good at at least 1 of the things they do

~100 Watts on average. Less than you'd expect.

Or a US President

Much appreciated!!

Hahahahahaha

Humanoid robots are so stupid in general

I'm going to at least let them get to a version 1 release before declaring Optimus a complete failure, but don't let me ruin Reddit's favorite past time.

BuT hEnrY fOrD WaS aNtiSeMiTiC - most Tesla fanboys, when you point out the CEO does Nazi salutes.

hold on now. tesla will have full self robotics in 6 months, you just have to be patient.

Tons was literal, as in how many pounds

sounded like a literal trash can when it started walking LOL, the fuck?

Keep in mind that they probably only shared the best footage/cut the video. The robot is probably worse than what is shown on X.

Clanker UFC when?

The chinese robots aren't much better.

Good points, I wonder how long the batteries last, and how long they take to charge

Oh wow that's impressive.

Everything Honda kicks ass though. Self driving car is kind of a big robot is it not ?

Or high school.

That’s kinda the point most experts have been making - specialized robots purpose built for key tasks do the job extremely better than a generalized “humanoid” would, but that type of practicality doesn’t have any pizzazz for showing off.

The Chinese Rizbot walks faster than this.

His big insight was AI is all that matters - for robots, FSD, robotaxi. I didn't say accurate insight.

Full self driving has been a year away since 2015 and Optimus is years, if not decades behind its competitors

Stock price up 10% on low rate robot news

Well that was the task in the video, and in the comment you replied to. This replacing people on ships are kind of not going to work, most of the time people are there to fix problem. Maybe it can be a unsupervised cruise control in calm water, but not really going to let a vessel away without any crew on a big trip.

Too expensive for the parts is what he said, compared to China.

It actually can't lead you to the kitchen because it isnt a robot. It's a remote controlled puppet.

Jack of all trades, master of none

Chinese robots will probably kick his ass.

Yeah. But it has glued on mannequin hands…

Running Tesla properly would massively reduce profits. Because they would be forced to spend massive amounts of money on proper R&D, QC and spare parts inventory. The vast majority of Americans fail to understand that Tesla is a totally irrelevant niche player with <2% of the global car market. Many countries don't have a single tesla on their roads. If it disappeared tomorrow most of the world would barely notice.

The board are a bunch of grossly overpaid nobodies (except James Murdoch) chosen for blind loyalty. They aren't going to kill the golden goose.

I love this so much. It is like a sitcom vision of the future.

Those fake hands are ridiculous.

Is the robot zonked on ketamine too?

Is this the real life Hooli?!? Gavin came off smarter than Musk, while also surrounded by sycophants. I am so disappointed in what they are touting will be marketed end of year. How are financial companies propping us this valuation.

This implies they're good at nothing, hence the word "none"

No it doesn’t, the full saying is “jack of all trades a master of none, but better than being a master of one.” It means that being good at a lot of things is better than being amazing at 1 thing but crap at everything else

Possibly someone is monitoring and/or typing the responses when it fails to come up with an answer.

It's the resource curse, but transferred to finance. The CEO has much greater freedom to act using his company's insane valuation to leverage loans. Tesla itself, doesn't matter beyond that.

Yeah, my reflex is to say Tesla's are bad cars . . . But the truth is that they're pretty alright, or at least they were when they started coming out and the flaws could be taken as inevitable teething problems in a new product. Here we are a decade on and they're increasingly lagging other offerings. The giant central screen with almost no other styling has started to feel cheap rather than futuristic. And the the whole FSD subscription stuff is just a mixture of unsafe and shoving the subscriptions plans that already made the internet miserable into the real world.

And you'd hoped we'd have moved on from Ford. But nope!

I'm honestly kinda curious about the explosion of humanoid robots. My understanding is that it's a bit like the whole problem with LLMs where anyone can code up a ChatGPT rapper and make it look like they're making a lot of progress, at least temporarily. There are already large knowledge bases full of data and algorithms to drive humanoid robots for research purposes. So walking, balancing, and waving your arms in the air, aren't really big technical hurdles that they were decades ago. At least for demonstration purposes.

Rizzbot is better.

At some point one would think they would need to be able to actually have a product they can sell

Totally agree sarcasm tags are only useful for bots and LLMs.

Damn. There are robots out there that can sprint and box, not just walk https://youtu.be/5Y-tElcmJVE This is trash

I think the AI isn't integrated at all. The 'robot' is still under human remote control.

Customers are happy to get their own coke from the soda fountain machine.

Nailed the shat itself posture and walk, there Elon.

What you're missing here is that a lot of jobs that will be replaced or can be replaced are by specialized machinery, which has already been happening for the past several decades. Human like robots are far less efficient, far more expensive, and completely pointless. If you want to do a task and do it well, you have something built for it that's specialized, not generic. It's the same way as when you hire a human for a task (i.e. you don't hire an engineer to do a doctor's job or a doctor to do an engineers job). When you can have a machine in a factory simply picking up and dropping something in another place for a few thousand that can do it perfectly, requires little to no maintenance, why do you need a human like robot?

Apart from this robot being an absolute joke, I genuinely don't understand this infatuation with human like robots. Specialized machinery is far more efficient and far cheaper. Why would you want a robot that is slow at completing tasks, takes time to think, and costs significantly more than a machine built to do one task and do it extremely well? Do people not think? It seems like everyone is just blinded by shiny objects.

Most tech CEOs are genuinely stupid. It's actually kind of funny when you hear most of them speak or see what they're impressed by. We truly live in some bizarre times

Worked at a Biotech company where the CEO walked through a research lab and was dumbfounded because it wasn't a beehive of activity. Yup, bro, the processes take time and people are in their offices doing analysis of the data generated. You don't push a button and get instant results. And also, most lab reagents aren't brightly colored, bubbling, or glowing.

I disagree with that 100%, let me tell you why. Specialized equipment, without a fault, will always be more expensive than generic equipment. Why? It all has to do with economies of scale. Creating 10 million of one thing is a lot cheaper than creating 10000 of 10000 things, it will always be that way. That's why things today is so incredibly cheap compared to what it used to cost. So if you can create something that fits most bills, that is what will be the cheapest to purchase and maintain.

Not when the generic equipment is supposed to do everything. And even if generic equipment up front cost might end up being cheaper, you still lose out in efficiency and that ends up being more costly. Any big company will happily pay more up front for more efficiency as that is ultimately cheaper than buying a slow human robot that takes 3 years to lead you to the kitchen to grab a coke.

Not when the generic equipment is supposed to do everything. And even if generic equipment up front cost might end up being cheaper, you still lose out in efficiency and that ends up being more costly. Any big company will happily pay more up front for more efficiency as that is ultimately cheaper than buying a slow human robot that takes 3 years to lead you to the kitchen to grab a coke Not only that, human like robots are incapable of doing most of the tedious tasks and heavy lifting that specialized machinery is able to accomplish. Even in the examples you gave (security robots, autonomous cars) those are examples of specialized robots vs human like robots. Human like robots are practically pointless. Why train a robot to do tons of things when it's a lot easier to have it complete one task and complete it well?

Your failure lies in assuming that things always stay the same, they don't. The current state of both robotics and AI is right now the worst it will ever be. I already explained to you why having a robot that can do many things is better than a specialized mechanical device that can only do one thing. With a robot that can do many things you are also a lot better equiped to follow market swings quick, as you can simply reassign, sell / buy / rent robots based on demand. I understand what you are saying, but its simply wrong. Just a matter of time.

Not sure why you answered two times with the same initital message but different main text.

Conned their way into space industry is a funny comment when they’re doing what’s almost impossible for everyone else to do, and for a fraction of the price.

12-16 months!

Not wrong. If you like tasks being done slowly and inefficiently, then sure, human like robots make sense. If you want things done fast, specialized machinery will be better 11 out of 10 times.

Can you specify some of this specialized machinery for me, that will take over human jobs but is much better for companies to purchase as specialized machinery?

Expectation: internet of things? that sounds awesome future! Reality: my toilet has a subscription now :/

...I wish I could get $200K–$500K to show CEOs where the kitchen is...

Master jackass of all trades

It's absolutely possible, you can already buy a (bit smaller) unitree for 20k.

Guys, look at the big picture. Don’t let Elons’ brief political bungle disrupt everything else. Stay focused. It’s the first and best western EV product on the market. Nothing else is even close. Elon has good overall goals that have never changed. Yeah he’s a little eccentric and it’s sad he thought we could benefit from Donald ( Donald is accomplishing some things-silver lining ?) Let’s stay focused. Tesla has become a lot more than just Elon. It is our Tech future as contrasted with China. It is our best American staffed company to defend us from Chinese economic/product domination. It may be our ONLY viable company in that market. Let’s not shoot ourselves over some brief political drama (that appears to have ended). Let’s support our best AMERICAN player in this market !! On top of all that, our protests deprive us of our favorite car. 😂