Cyber cab

I see one during my commute every morning on N Elston Ave in Chicago - has a steering wheel and driver

Too bad it missed all the snow

They have one of the full cybercabs at the Chicago auto show.

Wdym? They’ve been testing in chiraq for months now

Where?

Is it going North or South ?

Northbound

Get off your phone please

Gross, tbh

Just make it the Model 2 like it was supposed to be and add a rear window. No one needs a 2 door cab.

Yes, it is.

Don’t worry I have FSD

I've seen posts on X where the Cybercab was downtown in the Loop, driving around the N Elston service center and completely covered in road salt that Chicago typically gets this time of year. Apparently there are two now in the Chicago and one made a visit to the Chicago Auto Show.

Not sure if that'll get you out of a ticket... It's currently still FSD Supervised

Just looks bad -- two door taxi... why...

Can I buy one and get a steering wheel, please? Us peasants want a sub 20k vehicle.

Trust me I’ve seen people do far worse in a car without FSD. I’ll be just fine

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>*two door taxi... why...* Because, if all goes to plan (doubtful), Tesla already has a 4 door taxi and a larger 4 door SUV taxi. So a smaller and cheaper 2 person taxi rounds out the taxi fleet, as most Uber rides right now are only for one or two passengers. If you need more space, then you can order a 4 door Tesla taxi to pick you up. But, I'm not holding my breath for this vision to come true in any reasonable quantities.

> So a smaller and cheaper 2 person taxi rounds out the taxi fleet, as most Uber rides right now are only for one or two passengers. While that may be true, people bring stuff with them and sometimes have luggage. I also greatly limits what you can put in it and the moment you have a third friend hang out you are cooked on Tesla. There is a reason taxis and even gig taxies are four door, people want space. You can roll with two people in a Waymo and work and have groceries and a scooter in the back. Tesla nada.

Why tf did they make this thing with two doors. Makes zero sense. 60% of the times I take a cab is when I'm with a group of people. If I'm taking a cab by myself I'm probably going to the airport which means I have luggage and a coupe is the worst possible choice for that.

The back storage area is actually pretty big, imagine you took a model 3, shrunk it by a few inches, then removed both rear seats then made the whole rear storage space. Its the ideal car if youre one or two people traveling with luggage. Having seen it in person I'd say its roughly equivalent to the model y 5 seater rear storage.

So if you have too much stuff with you or a third person, you order a model 3 or Y robotaxi. It's not complicated.

It's also a hatchback? Lots of space for luggage.

They are already using the y in Austin for exactly that?

85-90% of rideshares are 2 or less passengers.

I've owned 3 2-door vehicles, 2 of them were convertibles. Never had issues with luggage.

the original comment was being a little too willfully ignorant IMO

From a far i thought it had elvish writing on it lol

Those are non-existent. Also, who wants to sit in the front seat of a two seat taxi. It is just odd. Even if I was only one person, I want a four-door. That is how most will feel. It is a bad product with two doors.

Thanks NeckBackPssyClack for your helpful insight /s A two door taxi is dumb and a waste. Hey you and your friend have a bag, that shit has to go on your lap not the seat next to you. The car is small and also ugly as shit.

 i do what i can

That is all you can do, even if it isn't much but posting monarchist gifs


you serious?

Yahoo Serious with the bubbles.

Cyber crap

It's a hatchback. Plenty of room behind the rear seats for storage.

The Y can also function as a robotaxi, as can the 3, but the purpose of the 2 door cybercab like you said is to be cheap. Cheaper vehicles means cheaper fares.

That isn't the point. You can't even set a back next to you if you are with a person. Two door taxis are just lame. People want room. It is so limiting as well.

Why is Tesla making a 2 Door Cab with little cargo room? Was it the roadster made cheap?

Because 90% of all taxi rides are one or two passengers and they already have a Model Y.

> Because 90% of all taxi rides are one or two passengers In four door taxis, with their stuff.

Was about to say, that looks like a steering wheel and a driver...

have you tried fsd?

Yes and it's really good but for now the law is stay off your damn phone while driving

Why is it only a 2 seater? No airport runs for families. Seems like a weird move.

Why spend billions to develop a vehicle that will neglect 10-15% of the market out of the gate? Why not just utilize the Model Y design? It feels like another "oh, you just wait!" hype move from Tesla. If the automated taxi market is so huge, then demonstrate it via the Model Y or Model 3.

Umm, they do that already? They use the Model Y for Robotaxis.

First photo Tesla posted on X was at Wriggly Field, captioned “The Cabs” or something corny like that😂

Yeah this has been on the Northshore for past couple weeks I live in Peabody and have seen it like 5-6 times now

I'd be so into it if it was sold as a normal car in a 2+2 configuration.

Everyone who owns a Tesla has tried FSD. HW4 here. You still need to pay full attention to the road.

It’s like these bros see video games and movies of dystopian worlds and think they’re cool and want to recreate them. They’re not cool. We don’t want to live in those worlds.

Just order a Model Y is a common explanation. There will be only one Model Y for nine two-door cabs, provided Model Ys are used only for one and two riders. Outside of dense city centers, wait times will be significantly longer.

I saw one in Salem Ma a few weeks ago. :)

Maybe they understand market demands better than you do? Just a causal thought

The vast majority of taxis are for 1 or 2 people. Also, there's tons of space for luggage since there is no motor. You're in the minority.

This design aesthetic came from Elon's kid asking why cars don't look like we live in the future

Then Tesla should prove it's a viable business model with the Y before you start pouring billions into a coupe taxi as the next pipedream for the stock market.

https://www.teslaoracle.com/2024/12/09/why-the-cybercab-robotaxi-has-only-two-seats-tesla-engineer-explains/ This article explains the design decision. As explained above, most (about 80%) of ride shares carry a driver and one or two passengers. The two door version is easier and faster to clean, substantially reduces production cost due to smaller part count, and has ample cargo space. It also has aerodynamic advantages, reducing operating costs by reducing electricity use. I expect, similar to Uber, there will be larger versions of robotaxis to serve trips with more passengers, etc. This seems like a reasonable strategy, as long as you have faith that unsupervised self driving will be robust enough to perform safely and efficiently. It is a somewhat risky bet, but grabbing market share quickly is likely crucial to Tesla’s strategy. And, as some folks have already expressed, perhaps many of the design elements could be used in a new model that features a driving wheel.

The most distracted CEO in America.

We already know it to be a viable business model, Uber and Lyft have shown that people will use it and we know the revenue they generate. Now remove the contractors from the equation who are their biggest loss of profit and just add in electric charging and it’s a very profitable business. Uber/Lyft lose money due to having to pay drivers. They want a cyber cab to further make the vehicle costs lower, as the cyber cab will have a much lower cost per mile than a model y, but the model y will still be utilized heavily.

The cyber cab could be the Cheaper model.

How do you "know"? Tesla is yet to operate a profitable taxi business in any market. And what's your understanding of the business model? Will Tesla own, operate, and maintain the fleet? Or is the idea that consumers are supposed to buy their own Cybercab and then lease it back to Tesla for X hours a day to operate as an autonomous taxi? The former sounds very cash intensive and a lot more complicated than the Uber model.

You’d just hail more than one.

So pay double for a trip to the airport? Got it 👍

Wow, unsupervised=human driver !!!

I cannot believe more people aren't talking about this more than all the other issues with it. It's insane. Who looks at a regular Uber and says "you know what the issue is? It's too big"

Tesla could/should have made a van as their taxi. Along with having more capacity, it would have sliding doors that can be automatically opened and closed without hitting anything. If a passenger in a Waymo or Tesla walks off without closing their door, the car is crippled. They have to send a person out to close the door. It's simple oversights like this that make Tesla's robotaxi seem like more Elon vaporware. Furthermore, if Tesla actually built a passenger van it could be purchased by families, and booked by families for taxi trips. The coupe is dead in the water.

Having FSD in My Y is great, Having it drive me in a car with no steering wheel is nuts. FSD is not even remotely close to being ready and doubt it ever will.

Why is it a 2 door?

Think you’ll just get a regular model y at that point.

Yea they drive it around the dealership in Peabody.

the majority of taxi rides are for one or two people.

I don’t see anywhere in my statement where I said Tesla has yet to operate a profitable business in any market. Tesla has publicly stated that they will do a mix of having their own maintained fleet, likely contracting out for maintenance and cleaning initially, as well as leasing from owners who wish to utilize that feature.

You said you already "know" it is a viable business model. The basic criteria for a viable business model is demonstrated customer demand, a clear value proposition sustainable unit economics (ie profitable), repeatability and scalability, and a durable competitive position. Do you "know" their taxi business checks all those boxes? I certainly don't and I can't find a breakdown from Tesla that proves any of the above.

I said Uber and Lyft… Not Tesla.