I spotted something interesting while I was walking down South Lamar, Austin. TX. today. They were two in tandem.
With steering wheel and ‘driver’
But there's a steering wheel. How can that be?
Nice steering wheel tho
Haha! Tesla is so stupid that they test their product. Elon is so dumb! /s
Makes me wish there was a two-door car available to consumers.
My guess is there will be…
The cybercab is steer by wire, there is no steering column, just a bolt on controller for the steering wheel.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have 4 doors for a "cab"
Wtf
You‘re new here, amiright
Holy shit, NOT on South Congress?! Literally every “lOoK! UnSuPeRvIsEd!” video is on a small section of South Congress (and, of course, the part with tons of shops / pedestrians to take videos …)
2 doors? Insane.
South Lamar is a neighborhood/street in Austin, TX. I didn't know this, so I thought I would share with others, as well.
I would buy the two door…assuming it’ll be cheaper than the model 3. I like the design
Something like 90% of rides are 2 or less people. For more people they could just send a model Y
Something like 90% of rides are 2 or less people. For more people they could just send a model Y
Thank you.
Would be silly not to
If they stretched this out into a 4 door it would make for a good next gen model 3.
Came here to say this
Doesn’t Cybercab have no steering wheel? I see a steering wheel, so not quite a Cybercab.
Can someone explain to me in very simple terms why the Cybercab is a two passenger vehicle? I understand that about 60% of rideshare rides are for 1 passenger and another 15% for 2 passengers, but why limit yourself and lose out on 20-25% of rideshare business? It doesn't cost that much more to make a 4 or even 6 passenger car. Additionally, the Cybercab is limited regarding cargo. I often travel with sports equipment and extra luggage. I don't think this would work.
They will never sell this to consumers. They designed a whole knew car to create identity for the self driving service - they are not going to dilute that identity by selling to consumers.
1/2 inch panel gaps?
Just give a steering wheel and pedals and it'll sell very well.
It comes down to cost. Plus they already have a four passenger car?
Keep the steering wheel and sell it to me please, lol
They would absolutely be dumb not to release a consumer version with a steering wheel and pedals.
Hope the range will stay atleast the same
Just like with Uber there will be options to order a larger or more luxurious ride, they’ll just use their other models for these rides. Just like with uber I’d expect to pay a slight premium to book a ride in a cyber truck with its additional passenger and cargo capacity vs a cyber cab.
I guess without the driver there's room for two
I’m betting they won’t have massive range as I assume they’re probably more in-town type of cars, but I’m totally making this up in my own head.
They could differentiate them by only allowing that gold colour on official Robotaxi vehicles.
How much profit do you think each cybercab will make per year if put on the network? How much do you think Tesla should sell those cybercabs for?
I don’t know how they possibly could be able to sell it within the next couple of years without them. I imagine it takes time to get the approval, which requires fully working FSD before you can even start.
They still make other vehicles. In fact, the current Robotaxi network is exclusively Model Y’s, isn’t it? I think it’s closer to 90% of rides are 2 people or less, so I’m assuming an ultra low cost purpose built robotaxi vehicle might make sense in this case.
Do you need the cab you rent to have perfect panel gaps?
I think that's highly dependent on how well the whole self driving thing goes. If the self driving thing goes as well as it possibly could, if Cybercabs steadily replace taxis and then alter people's buying choices so that they're more likely to own fewer cars and use Cybercabs on an adhoc basis as needed, then Tesla will throw everything at that model. Not because it'll make them more money in the short term, but because it will steadily put other manufacturers out of business (many are already relatively precariously placed) and hedge against the influx of Chinese cars. Other volume manufacturers would then be far more likely to have to license Tesla's FSD to even stay in the game. If that ends up being the path then selling the Cybercab with a steering wheel and mirrors would slow down the rate of deployment and therefore adoption, giving others longer to react. It may be it wouldn't make a material difference, but it would be a risk to Tesla. If things don't work out like that, if FSD takes longer to roll out, if people are more reluctant to change their habits, if people are stubborn in sufficient volumes and want to continue driving themselves - then it would make a lot more sense for Tesla, and I'm sure we'd see it. I suspect they're going to focus on the first path though, and only if it doesn't look like it's working out in the manner they're hoping will we see a pivot to offering the Cybercab in a drivable form.
I bet this person wants Tesla to sell them for like $15k.
Is that not a legal requirement whilst they're testing the system? Hence the wing mirrors too.
They're testing.
Doubt Tesla produces a car with a range less than 250
Does anyone believe this thing will be sold to the public without a steering wheel?
I think that’s the problem. It could be cheaper than the model 3 but unless we are talking $20k, it won’t work. Range would be probably need to be 200mi for it to work financially?
No, but at least the western standard. Look at the door and the trunk, its not even flush on top of being huge...
Agree with this, no one wants to buy a taxi either…it needs to stand out so that random people don’t try to get in your car too lol
It was the monitoring copilot, but no driver behind the steering wheel
It’s a prototype. This is fine.
It’s called Model Y.
People keep saying this and forget that the Model Y will be in the cyber cab fleet like it is now! So you will have the option based on how many people there will be… but yeah 90% of cab rides are like 1-2 people
Then it's fine I guess. I thought they were already at the pre-series milestone. When are they launching?
No but it definitely needs more than two seats!
The concept has no wheel. Likely it will need to be delivered with a steering wheel to fit regulations.
Yes, me. Time will tell if I'm right, but I certainly believe that to be the plan alongside Tesla building them to own themselves.
They’re so ugly
https://i.redd.it/qg563csjlz9g1.gif
The people who know that are not posting it on reddit
Absolutely not. Just order a model y if you need more seats.
Heard a steering wheel version would soon be available for consumers 2027'ish Hope it would be priced pocket-friendly, 30K 🤔
250 seems like a reasonable number, but I want to be clear I’m pretty dumb.
Looks like the CT’s squircle — which makes sense since these cars are steer by wire too.
Elon said production is to start sometime in 2026. They're starting to test unsupervised FSD and so once that gets regulatory approval they'll launch soon. The big question is which state/city and if the Fed also will approve unsupervised self driving in 2026
The roadster is a thing
Under/Lyft: hold my beer.
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Can anyone explain why this vehicle makes sense as a cab? Especially with a safety driver it seems just silly to carry one person. I realize that many people ride alone, but going somewhere as a couple and/or with a kid would be a real pain. It's just silly.
100% this. Exactly accurate. If FSD works as intended,Elon has set up everything to play to win, which does not involve consumer cybercab sales.
There’s a steering loop
$30k would be fine. Don't even need FSD hardware or advanced autopilot. Just like 250 miles of range and adaptive cruise control.
The roadster is vaporware until it’s released.
A coupe as a cab? Seems like a design that's ill suited for passengers and luggage.
My guess is the car will make $30k/year in profit (maybe not the first one out of the line, there is economy of scale and at the beginning they’ll run at a loss, but I’m saying ultimately) and cost $25k to manufacture. My guess is the car lasts 7 years. In its lifetime, the car makes $210k in profit. Discount by a (very) generous 20%/year, you get $118k in profit (that means that Tesla should be equally happy to make $118k in profit now or $210k in profit over 7 years). If the car costs $25k and they make and Tesla needs $118k in profit, they’d need to sell it for $143k. Of course to sell it to customers you have additional costs (logistics, salesmen salaries, all that) as well as extra costs if you want to add a steering wheel, mirrors, the complexity of dealing with two variants of the product… so my guess would be that around $150k would be where Tesla would question selling the car vs putting it on the network. Would you buy a 2 seater vehicle without a sun roof, no visibility through the back and low range for $150k?
Why do they have to look ugly? Is because it has Cyber in it? Maybe it’s just cringy gold
You realize the roadster was already released years ago right?
You mean the discontinued roadster that came back as a preorder in 2022/21? but to be released roadster? That roadster right? The OG Roadster isn’t anything more than an EV Lotus…
I really love this design and it would be awesome to have a consumer option in their lineup.
- 2 door vehicle, making it painful for more than two passengers - slanted hatchback, cramping the headroom Everything about this screams poor design
It only has two seats. The entire truck goes up to the front seats for luggage or large items.
Before it became the “CyberCab”, this was their “Model 2” budget concept.
Genuinely, why do you think so?
Safety driver is temporary. Something like 90% of ride shares are 2 or less people.
picture of car
Looks like a Cybertruck and MY boned.
Uber: brb
> The OG Roadster isn’t anything more than an EV Lotus… Careful, those are fighting words for Roadster fans.
production model will not have driver controls
Throw an M3 performance motor in the rear and let 'er rip.
I have two electrics, a M3 LR that gets 360mi, and a Nissan leaf plus that gets 220mi. It's a HUGE difference, it really is, but ~200 miles is totally usable. Wouldn't road trip the leaf, because public charging for it doesn't exist, but it's a great car for a lot of types of driving.
The cybercab is made using 3 castings.That alone will have a significant effect on cost. The unboxed process should also have an impact. As I understand it, they won't need paint. They haven't yet used their idea about "rigid" wiring looms, which is another possibility. I really think they can get the price down to $25,000 or less.
The side profile of the rear does look pretty ugly. Other than that, I think it looks pretty good
No it’s not a legal requirement. I literally called NHTSA about this. Only tye mirrors are.
Because if the CyberCab can work fully autonomously, then so can a Model Y or Model 3. No need having all bigger, more expensive vehicles running around as a taxi service when you can have a mixture.
Everything about your comment screams you have no idea what you're talking about.
Why are you so sure it needs more than two seats?
2017, they announced a new roadster in 2017. They took money for pre orders and won't deliver something for 10+ years.
What's the point of mirrors if there's no driving controls?
Ok, I'm going to say it: GD! Look at those panel gaps! I can fit my whole fist through that crack!
That's their stated goal, and Cybercab will be available to private owners. On top of that, it will be able to go out and earn money to pay itself off. The only downside is you're basically paying to take care of Tesla's fleet and give it a home. Edit: I guess you could call it a pet though. Like an outside cat, that brings you money for rent, instead of dead birds, rodents, and toxoplasmosis.
It does. They expressly plan on selling to consumers. It would be a win-win for Tesla and the buyer. The consumer would basically be housing and charging part of Tesla's fleet, while the consumer will get a kickback when it works as a taxi. The consumer gets to choose how much privacy and customization they have, while Tesla won't have to plan as much infrastructure. Basically, the most accessible franchising model ever conceived.
Elon says a lot of things, 99% of which are wildly optimistic/aspirational
Tesla has said Cybercab is designed for autonomy, roughly $25k, and that **you will be able to buy one.** The interesting part is the model: if Tesla’s robotaxi network works, consumer-owned cars could become distributed “micro-fleet” nodes (you store/charge it, Tesla dispatches it), which could reduce Tesla’s need to own/park every vehicle themselves. Whether it “pays itself off” depends on regulation, utilization, and network economics — but the intent to sell isn’t speculation.
In theory it is more efficient when most rideshare trips are 1-2 passengers. Obviously it is designed for not requiring a safety driver. If Tesla is to actually become a large scale autonomous rideshare operator with millions of vehicles serving 10s of millions of trips per day, saving a large chunk on upfront construction costs and ongoing energy usage costs on most of those vehicles would be a big deal. They have said that the plan is to have other vehicle types in the fleet as well for trips with more passengers. This is just one type of vehicle that could handle most 1-2 passenger trips.
I had 2017 but was questioning myself and edited my post. Damnit, I should’ve stuck with my gut instinct. Thanks for clarifying.
It's a cab, so who cares?
In the short run, perhaps.
I don’t know. NHTSA sets the rules. Makes no sense to me
There's a reason it says Tesla Engineering Prototype on the side... Because it is just that, an engineering prototype where panel gaps are of no importance.
are the wheel covers plastic now?
I imagine if you were road-tripping in a Robotaxi (assuming we get to the point that’s an option), I’d imagine you would automatically be assigned a longer-range vehicle. Very interesting to see if Tesla can make their predictions reality, but it would be very cool if they could. Imagine no longer needing to own a car, which eliminates all the costs associated.
Well, they did release full self driving without it being full or properly tested...
Tesla will still provide Model Y for ride request of more than 2 people. But 90%+ are two people or less (safety driver is temporary)
You mean the tall 4 door liftback suv that is basically the polar opposite of a 2 door?
I'm totally kidding; I'm a first-generation 2018 model 3 original owners (one of the first 8,000 cars). I definitely don't care about panel gaps. I'm just laughing at history.
Sex machine
Thought these didn’t have a steering wheel?
God I want one so bad. Put a steering wheel and I'm good
I want them to embrace 2 door small car for daily commutes. I would take a 2 door with sub-150 mile range honestly… If I can charge it at home, and just do my commute on the battery I have, then I cybercab/rental for all the other times in my life I need a bigger car, I’d be happy to do that.
These things look like a Ford Probe that really let itself go and it now only wears wife beaters and showers once a month.
Never heard of this car. Why would any cab be a 2-door?
Attendant driver?
Lamar is the test bed
Take off the gold, lop off a bit of the trunk and you have a Honda.
Waymo never had a chance...
To be honest, I prefer that Waymo doesn’t have a single person overseeing my journey.
Cybercab resembles, at least to me , the loremo car : [https://www.cartest.ca/2009\_loremo.html](https://www.cartest.ca/2009_loremo.html) They went bankrupt, but the car was interesting ,with 4 seasts, two main seat in the front and 2 rear backfacing seats on the trunk.
Surprised they have a steering wheel in the cab, considering production models will not.
So is this. If you’ve ever used self driving you know it is a helpful assistant that works most of the time, but isn’t anywhere near ready for 100% total autonomy.
With a steering wheel and such
It doesn't
Dumbest fucking design. Why would an autonomous vehicle follow a traditional coupe style?
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