CyberCab spotted on public streets!

This is expected, just creating more hype before the shareholder meeting.

It has side mirrors, steering wheel, and pedals. They can’t test on public roads in CA without those.

Let's go!

> steering wheel, and pedals Citation needed. Tell me where you know *this* CyberCab has a steering wheel and pedals installed. Don't tell me "CA regs" - you don't know what conversations Tesla might be having with CA regulators. Side mirrors, I'll give you that. That's an easy glue-on change. A function steering wheel? Notsomuch.

What about all the tooling that has been put in?

They can easily glue in a steering wheel using steer by wire and there have been cybercabs seen with steering wheels before.  I'd be super surprised if this car didn't have a steering wheel and pedals along with the mirrors we can see.

It is not in fact happening.

Just laughable.

Steer by wire, brake by wire, acceleration by wire… it’s not hard to implement. All technology already exists within Tesla.

[Cybercab spotted with steering wheel a few months ago](https://www.cybercabrobotaxiforum.com/forum/threads/cybercab-with-steering-wheel-side-mirrors-first-sighting-at-giga-texas.21829/) [likely the same Cybercab from the video spotted today with what appears to be a steering wheel](https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1984030270367133820?s=46). Although that one isn’t 100% clear Tesla isn’t getting secret exemptions from CA regulators. That sort of stuff is public record

Bald MKBHD incoming

It’s not happening

Thank you for posting that, I am willing to admit that I was not up on the latest investigative journalism from ...:::checks browserbar:::... [*www.cybercabrobotaxiforum.com*](http://www.cybercabrobotaxiforum.com) My bad. We don't know if it's the same vehicle, but I will grant you that *one* has been spotted somewhere in the world and it *might* be this one.

Why this when there are already robotaxis? Redundant much?

Robotaxis and CyberCabs are not the same thing. Robotaxis are Tesla vehicles that employ Tesla's Full Self Driving software, eventually expecting to have no driver or "safety monitor" in the car. So, equivalent to Waymo. Robotaxis can be any model of Tesla that supports FSD, but obviously all Tesla models S/3/X/Y are not automatically Robotaxis, because not everyone purchases full self drive for theirs. CyberCabs are purpose-built Robotaxis that only exist for that function. They are not planned to have any commercial purpose outside of being a Robotaxi. They've run the numbers, and the vast majority of most taxi rides - think hailing a cab in NYC - are 2 passenger rides. So the CyberCab is specifically built for those use cases. Will some people want a Robotaxi to take their family of 4 to the airport with luggage? Yep. Hail a Model Y Robotaxi when that's what you need.

Must be a video from 2019, because I swear I saw a million Cybercabs since 2020!

Jeez, just how many more months will we have to wait??

Elaborate. EDIT: He did not elaborate.

Not hard to implement but may be hard for their suppliers to ramp up production that Tesla needs.

bald?

That’s what he agreed to if the cybercab released

Seems bigger than expected

I am not arguing - just to be clear. It would be absurd if they were required to have mirrors but not a steering wheel.

I’m not going to pretend I’ve read a single regulation about this. But I would point out zoox vehicles have none of those things and have been testing on public roads for months.

In which case Tesla just takes it in house.

Nothing is happening lol these will never be like a Waymo

It’s huge. Quite likely a model y retrofitted to look like a cybercab.

Tooling hype. Inflatable IDRA dummy presses are very common to fool investors.

Robotaxi* Fucking plebes, get your terminology straight! /s

Lol come back in 10 years and you’ll see just how deluded you were

Of course you omit the important detail where he said it has to be for sale to buy under 30k before 2027

Or they're literally just testing a prototype... This is what they typically start doing several months before the start of production.

Sure bud. Just like Cybertruck, Model Y, Model 3, Model X, Model S... I look forward to you moving the goalposts later.

Why would you want to pay for a Model Y ride when you could pay half that price for a Cybercab ride?

This car wasn't even announced until last year. You're talking about Model 3/Y/S/X robotaxis.

Then what's the point of having robotaxis? So it can be its own competitor?

You mean what's the point of having Model Ys as robotaxis too? They're for rides that have 3+ passengers.

But wouldn't it be more cost effective to have just the Model Y that does it all for 1-4 passengers?

No. If you have 1 or 2 passengers, why would you want to pay $10 for a Model Y ride when you can pay $5 instead for a Cybercab ride?

Until they add other sensors like Lidar, radar like Waymo. There is no way in hell these vehicles can do what Elon Mask says it will. Cameras only will not cut it and will be a legal liability with all the accidents it will cause.

And because Tesla thinks it would save customers that much money, so they invested in R&D to come up with a brand new design that fits two people and charges them 50% less than their model Y and expects a high ROI?

You're completely ignorant of economics. By reducing their own costs by 50%, they can make more money. Either by capturing some of that cost reduction in increased margins, or by passing the full cost reduction to the consumer and increasing their sales. And that's assuming no competitors. If there are competitors, then they *must* have competitive costs in order to get customers at all. To help you understand with a concrete example, why do you think they invested R&D to create the $40k Model 3/Y instead of just sticking to selling $80k Model S/X?

I believe testing as an AV has a different set of requirements.

Lmao, sure bud. Because you shoot lasers out of your eyes when you drive.

By reducing their own costs by 50%, then make more money? And also by charging customers 50% less? Each cyber cab out there charging ppl less 50% despite maintenance and electricity, you think that is a solid strategy? When is the break even point to get their R&D ROI to start generating positive cash flow? Unless they can actually sell their cyber cab for less than $30,000 instead of using them as taxis, I don't see the overlaps functionality with Model Y Robotaxis.

Yes, bozo. For example, let's say a Cybercab ride costs Tesla 50% less money than a Model Y ride. If Tesla charges the customer 40% less for a Cybercab ride than a Model Y ride, then they actually make more money for that ride than they would with a Model Y ride. And they'll sell more rides because the rides are cheaper.

Yea and you have wheels for legs. 😏

You think making a vehicle with legs is impossible? It may not be optimal, but it's absolutely possible. Which architecture is optimal is an entirely different argument. My point is that driving with just vision is obviously possible, given that we do it. It can and will be done, despite morons saying otherwise.

Posting fake stuff again?

A true believer here, still spouting his pathetic metaphor that he accepts on nothing but faith. Let us know when a car ships with a camera that comes anywhere close to the capability of the human eye.

Sorry, which of my previous posts in my 4+ year history was “fake”?? Mind highlighting those for me?

Why would a car need side mirrors if it didn’t have a wheel and pedals? What use would they have lmao

3 months maybe, 6 months definitely.

I hope these will have better software than the FSD that we have access to in our Teslas. I've had way too many close calls with FSD engaged to think it's anywhere near ready for driver-less operation.

Considering the roadster and $20k tesla were supposed to be here 5 years ago and more, I'd say the goalpost has been moved.

There was never a $20k Tesla announced. And as soon as Roadster comes out you'll just move the goalposts, just like you did after each of the cars I mentioned came out. They're always a lie, until they're not.

You're right. IT WASNT ANNOUNCED! Elon said there will be one to pump up stock values. Stop talking goalpost. Tesla started taking reservations for the Roadster in 2017. WHERE IS IT? sounds like theft to me.

Nope, Elon never said there would be a $20k Tesla. It's funny because you're blabbing about Roadster now, but as soon as they deliver it, you'll just ignore it and start whining about the next announced car that's supposedly never coming out. I saw this with Cybertruck, Model Y before that, Model 3 before that, etc. You people never learn.

Smh. It's been 7 years of waiting on the announced roadster. I guess we can count the original battery powered lotus they made to start things off.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-promised-25-000-ev-2020-including-inflation-tesla-2025-10 Okay I conceed. $25k.

No doubt that one has been delayed for a very long time. But they will deliver, as they always do. Just later than normal. Funny how you cherry-pick only the worst examples though and ignore anything positive. Model Y actually was delivered *earlier* than originally announced, for example.

Honestly, I don't understand the excuse making for a product that they have been taking money for and haven't delivered on it. Just like selling fully autonomous software at a premium and still not delivering on the advertised capabilities. You make it seem fine to sell things to the public with no expected date of delivery. Going to make me change my profession to Mars real estate agent.

It's a simpler car to build. Which means you need to charge less per ride to make it profitable.