Tesla discontinues Cybertruck RWD

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Well that was quick

What ever happened to the 35k truck

It’s be right after the $25k car and the roadster released in 2020

I get the impression the engineering targets for the CT were a bit too much..

The original ones certainly were pushing their luck. With high volume maybe they could have gotten there though. They got put into a feedback loop where politics + higher than advertised prices kept volume low. Then without volume to drive learning they lost the path to reasonable prices. Hard to see a route out of being a novelty vehicle at this point. A shame, a CEO who didn't get involved with politics and the engineering could have sold millions.

They took out too much that was core to the Cybertruck's identity.

Reality hit every car maker hard. That's why no one is making a cheap EV truck.

Doesn’t matter, tesla is shifting to robots and robots now.

It's still got plenty of audacity

And robots

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Politics, advertised price, and **unmet performance specs**. The originally announced specs made it a *value proposition*, especially on the range side. Even if they'd raised the price just keeping up with inflation, the range on the released models is still like 33% below what they advertised. It might be a worse truck than much of the competition, but if it could go 500 miles on a charge while costing less....

Slate is doing it. Ford is also doing it with the next gen. Ford and Chevy have cheap(er) models of the Lightning and Silverado selling pretty well.

I get the impression that the whole concept, especially the design for the CT was a bit too much

This. I wanted the 500 mile tri-motor.Tesla failed to offer a vehicle that was better than their concept vehicle... Something Elon said they would never do. Smaller vehicle size, smaller battery, less features, and a HUGE price increase.

This is the answer. When I looked at them, I couldn't understand why anyone would buy that version other than they couldn't afford the others. No 240V, no bidirectional charging, lower towing capacity....

And tonneau cover! When Elon stood on it for the first time, it was such an amazing discriminator vs other pickup trucks! Taking that out plus everything you listed just made it worse than the other EV pickup options.

It’s a $27k truck/suv that can tow less than the model y. Seriously, a towing capacity of 1,000 lbs? For $5k more I can get a used model y, more range, more power, more towing capacity, faster charging.

Was anyone buying the RWD version though? It cut so many features out

The target demographics for expensive truck buyers generally lean "red" -- It's not the politics but the "missing the specs and cost significantly" part that's killed the CT. I think the big range and cost miss comes from the 4680 cells not panning out as expected. (+ a lot of inflation in the last 5 years since Covid changed the economy).

They really thought the batteries would be better than they turned out to be

I don’t think his politics affected the cybertruck sales much. I think it’s looks and cost.

What happened to my low cost of anything. Cybertruck was announced in 2019 when everything was a lot cheaper.

in my opinion if you cant afford the AWD then you also cant really afford the RWD. Its such a little price jump and the car is so much better.

When is the semi truck going into full production, what a drag of a project…??

Same thing happened with the model 3.  The RWD has gone away and come back several times. Tesla does this to drive revenue.

Yup, battery day expectations weren't met.

Only the cyberbeast missed it's range target. The AWD actually has slightly better range than initially announced.

Disagree a little. It went from being unique looking vehicle to divisive and a rolling MAGA hat.

This was all about price and performance, it was dead as soon as pricing was announced and the RWD variant was just ridiculous for how much was stripped out of it. What idiot though removing power connections was a good idea? At most dropping all wheel steering, all wheel drive, the fancy suspension, and automatic cover, should have sufficed but someone set out to make it as unattractive as possible - well they succeeded.

Just proves that this stripped out version was a compliance car at its core. Now that the tax credit is going away in a few weeks, Tesla has no incentive to produce it.

We are about at the limit of physics for batteries. There isn't much better they can be at the moment.

It was never in danger of selling millions.

90% of people with trucks aren't towing shit.

Can’t afford isn’t the right way to phrase it. I can afford any of these cars. They’re just not worth that much.

Yeah, it’s kinda disingenuous to say it’s the “RWD” model because so much about it is different.

It never made sense. I was just looking at new inventory yesterday and you can get a new AWD demo with 300 miles for $70K. Why would anybody purchase a RWD for $65K. If you are already spending $65,000.. what’s the point of saving $5000 for a RWD truck significantly slower 0-60mph?

Dont forget robots

To be fair.. they probably sold like one or two of them. They couldn't overcome the high base cost of the vehicle, even by cutting features to the point that it was completely unappealing. I'm in the minority on Reddit and actually love the truck, but it's just too expensive. It's already Tesla's lowest margin vehicle, I just don't see how it can succeed long term. Maybe if they move a lot of its systems to the other vehicles to bring cost down?

So much this. Elon fucked the CT by openly getting into politics right when it rolled out. It became associated with that movement, and any hype was instantly crushed. It needed high volume to succeed. I think it's only hope of surviving now is if they move features like the 48 volt system, steer by, wire etc. to the other vehicles. They need to get those costs down through volume.

The diminished acceleration is the least the difference between those two models

As an actual fan of the CT, I’d never recommend this trim to anyone. Too many features missing and the price is still too high.

I agree. First vehicle for me that was over promised and under delivered. Lost of range was a huge deal for me. All the accessories they showed haven’t been promised. Price point is hard too

Imagine if Elon had kept his mouth shut and pushed for a design that was actually feasible. That would have driven revenue.

Slate is at the same stage as the 2020 Roadster

All this trim was doing is making the cybertruck look cheap on paper! Get rid of this forever. lol I love my cyberbeast. Cloth seats on a cybertruck is wild. 🤣

Battery density has improvemed about 6% per year and shows no signs of stopping. We are maybe 10% of the way to the theoretical limits for lithium.

Now, cancel the rest of it and move on.

I think the polarizing design also pushed it from what Tesla succeeded at early on - making electric cars cool. Other companies made electric cars weird to differentiate them from their ICE lineup, but Tesla made relatively normal looking EVs. Even if you like the Cybertruck, I think it's fair to say it's a weird looking vehicle, and the appearance does drive any big functionality. With a wrap I think they look pretty good, but that's at least $5k added on top of an already expensive vehicle.

They have not finished the factory yet

They removed so many critical features. It was half the truck with very little movement in price. I'm just waiting patiently for a CyberSUV or a Minivan killer. Immediate preorder if they do it

They still left the triangle.

If it actually looked like a truck and not a stainless steel triangle, it would have sold so incredibly well. Even at $100,000.

All RWD Tesla should be removed from sale. The CT RWD is absolutely a slouch and isn’t recommended. No smugglers bay, no wade mode, no this no that it’s basic and not worth the coin unless you’re not a truck guy

Ahaha 😂

Why does rivian r1t not sell incredibly well, along with other ev trucks? Price.

100%

EV trucks don’t sell well because they have downsides when they are performing “truck” duties. Range in an EV truck can be phenomenal, especially when you have a 200 kWh battery like the Silverado EV. But as soon as you start towing, or hauling something, your range goes right in the toilet. However, I should point out that weight is not the defining characteristic of range loss in an EV, a YouTuber actually proved this recently. Robert from AgingWheels actually found that much of the range loss from towing or hauling is aerodynamic loss from increased aerodynamic drag. [YouTube video about range loss from towing/hauling](https://youtu.be/UmKf8smvGsA?si=DPmgLKqbqvHVZNPy) Edit: I missed my original point. Teslas sell well because they are Teslas. Rivian still isn’t playing at the same level of tech that Tesla has in their vehicles. People just like the Tesla experience more. If you slapped a Tesla badge on a R1T and gave it Tesla software and UI? That would be a big seller.

What? The limit for the lithium ion batteries in use today is like 450Wh isn't it? We need to move to new technology like lithium air batteries to get higher Watt hours.

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> A shame, a CEO who didn't get involved with politics and the engineering could have sold millions. While I absolute hated Elon getting into politics *like that*, I doubt it would have made a substantial difference in the end. Exhibit A: None of the other trucks sell better. Certainly not in the millions. I would argue that most truck-owners simply don't want (and often simply cannot afford) an EV truck that is more expensive than a cheap gas truck. Arguable, trucks aren't really ideal in EV-form at all. We get by in Europe mostly without them. I hope Tesla uses this opportunity to make room in the factory to make the six-seat YL in the states (and elsewhere). That looks to be a much more profitable car. Maybe they surprise us and use the stretched Y as a base for a "small" truck that can actually make it to Europe? With LFP batteries, that would be a great workhorse.

That thing without all-wheel-steering would be a nightmare, I fear.

I think Elon could actually do this - if he really wanted. Though that would certainly raise questions about accountability. After all, it's probably cost 10 figures already. Well, at least he's not into boats and sponsoring sports-clubs. Or horse-racing ;-)

I agree with you but consider being more friendly next time

Exactly. The exoskeleton design became vaporware and you basically have bonded stainless over a steel structure. The stainless probably should have been deleted once the structure changed. It wasn't supposed to be like the Delorean with bonded panels.

What makes you a fan of it? I was turned off because of the aluminum frame (and not being able to afford it), I’m genuinely curious what makes people enjoy these other than it just being unique

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I am not buying a cybertruck only because of the way it looks otherwise I’d have one on order now. So I agree 100%!

It also has manual crank windows. 😃

100% with the Slate won’t be either

Strangely I don’t hate that all that much. Sounds like you can upgrade it to power windows.

There isn't a single EV truck on the market with a full sized bed. The Rivian is only 4.5 feet. That's not a truck for people who need a truck.

Come on. Let's be factual. Neither of those is out yet. I am sure a lot of buyers will get them when they do come out at the promised price.

That’s how Tesla operates, trims go by RWD, AWD, and tri-motor

>That's literally what fucking afford means. You are aggressively incorrect. Being able to afford something has little to do with its value or what its worth.

Worse truck design rolled out, ever. Not one bit sad to see it go. They look like perfect hangouts for racoons. No manufacture is trying to make efficient cars or truck, no more incentives and one cares about that. The industry is all about pushing crap and big money and bigger profit.

I’ll be honest. I don’t even know what the other differences are. I just know RWD does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds.. while AWD does it in 4.1 seconds. That is significant enough. Before we even get to any discussion on the extra traction of AWD. I would not buy any truck without AWD or a tow hitch.

If you can afford them then it's basically a no brainer, but others might be just on the line of being able to.

The $70k model was supposed to be the high end one with 500 miles of range. The current $75K dual motor has 340 miles and that price is only recently the same as the 60K announced inflation adjusted. Maybe I'm suffering from anchoring bias, but in any case, they over-promised and under-delivered.

The single motor version does not have a motorized Tono cover, it doesn’t have leather seats, but rather cloth seats, it doesn’t have the electric power out in the back, it doesn’t have the air lift in the shocks, only regular metal shocks, among a merit of other differences to make a huge difference in the quality of theexperience

Having worked in service for Tesla, if you can barely afford any of the cars (or any new car really) you cannot afford the car

It's a spectrum and different people balance money in various ways and make different amounts of money. When I say barely, I mean barely within a workable budget.

Tesla doesn’t understand what truck buyers want. Can’t believe they haven’t hired someone from Chevy or Fords truck division yet.

Wow!

What happened to autonomous driving in 2018?

I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying it's misleading.

With the seating configuration of the Model Y L!

The point of the appearance was supposed to be that it was an exoskeleton Since that went out the window they should have just built a normal truck

This trim will be worth a million in50 yrs.

I didn't want a RWD cybertruck, did anyone really? It was still too expensive, especially for a RWD. My bet is they drop the price on the AWD here after the incentive goes away. Either that or they come out with a cheaper truck in the near term 1-2 years.

And no secure locking of the truck bed. Like, what the heck? lol.

100%!! When they announced it everybody seems super excited. The Y is a fantastic vehicle but it is no replacement for a 4Runner or a Sienna. If Tesla launches an SUV, it's over

In its current state the cybertruck just isn't worth the asking cost. It's optimistically a $50k truck, but nothing about it is noteworthy in a positive way so a sane person isn't likely to consider it over any other truck.

At slow speeds, the biggest impact on range is the rolling resistance of the tires on the ground. At highway speeds, aerodynamics affects range the most. When you tow, you are increasing the rolling resistance as well as aerodynamic drag. You get a double whammy.

The CT's 6' 4" bed isn't full sized? Are 8 foot beds the full size you mean?

They should discontinue the whole truck it’s hideous.

I see Rivians all over the Pacific Northwest

It's the most comfortable pickup truck I have ever driven. It rides like a sedan, turns like a sedan, and is very comfortable like a car. It's powerful, it's fast, and it just works great as a truck. With the 240-volt outlets on it, I was able to ditch my home generator for when I lose power. Now I just plug the truck into the house, and all is well. The truck battery will power my house for 5 days before I need to recharge the truck. That's amazing. Also I have a fetish for being flipped off by strangers while I'm driving down the road. That's great. It turns me on.

It is an amazing vehicle. I've owned trucks my whole life. I'm old now, too, so I've driven so many trucks. The CT is the most comfortable and best handling truck I've ever been in.

I think it's selling about right for its price point. Looks regardless. It's not like any of the other electronic trucks are selling any better at that price point.

Lmao people actually do that? I drive a Tesla in Texas and when I’m out in the real rural areas I’ve noticed diesels always seem to expel more smoke near me, but otherwise normal

Maybe go grab a snack.

Thumbs down, and middle fingers are what I get. It was bad last summer, but this summer, it's toned way down. What's interesting is that Prius owners have done it the most.

Past owner. Great truck. But it does not ride or turn like a sedan lmao

So about $200k in today’s dollars

talking out of your ass is not engineering

Were you there in the discussion rooms before they announced the CT or are you also talking out your ass? :)

And you're dead wrong.

Surely the margins on this one were the best because they stripped out so much.

Something better is coming in its place most likely

I don't know what else to tell you. "Afford" ***literally*** does not mean worth. You can disagree but you would be wrong.

Eh kinda but really. Model 3 and Y Performance still only have 2 motors, they just output more power. Thats why they go by the Long Range and Performance trim names

Wen range extender

because rivian unfortunately can not support the vehicles they sell. their warranty service is abysmal.

Obviously not the vehicles with only two motors🫩

I don’t see how, it’s a lower trim so it’s gonna have less features, it’s not like everything isn’t listed out on the website, I don’t think they ever really planned on people buying many RWD, since it’s not much more expensive to get the better models

The point was to meme the stock, great success

Most other automakers don’t tie trim to powertrain layout.

They need to cut their losses on this truck, with elon spouting all this nonsense and hurting global sales. The CT is a hard sell to begin with cause of it's design. Why make that more difficult, Tesla and their shareholders need to really think about the future of this company.

You said “That’s how Tesla operates”. And thats it. Asterisks and exclusions aren’t “obvious” or lumped into your general statement for you, that’s why they exist

I didn’t even know there was a rwd option

I think that is only because Tesla was around first. Idk when both companies started but i imagine its Tesla.

Yea and most other automakers suck

COVID and the ensuing inflation screwed everyone over, from governments all the way down to customers/individuals. 2019 was quite literally a different era. It would’ve been in Tesla’s best interests for the Cybertruck to cost $35k, but it simply winded up being unfeasible.

Not that much cheaper. Somehow every other EV truck managed to not double their prices

Rivian sold approx. 1,750 R1Ts in Q2 2025. That is a trivial amount of pick-ups. Ford sold 222,459 F-series trucks in the same period. You notice the Rivians all over because they are rare and stick out.

Inflation isn't high enough to explain the gigantic increase, and he said it would be $35k, not that it would be $35k+inflation.

Inflation isn't high enough to explain the gigantic increase, so it probably was never feasible, especially when you consider that Elon loves to make absurd promises.

How did it even handle?

Misleading is a crazy word to use when the website clearly sums up the features of each version before buying. If you can’t be bothered to read 5 lines of text before dropping 80K you kind of deserve buyers remorse. That’s like saying the BMW 330i is a misleading name because it only mentions engine size (which is even incorrect in a bunch of models) but it doesn’t mention it has completely different interior/suspension/brakes from the M3.

This was dumb from the start. I never thought it was supposed to be a real product. More of a "reference product" to make people see what a good deal the AWD CT was. Good Riddance.

The Cybertruck's bed is only a couple inches shorter than my Tundra's bed. I have never been in a situation with my truck where those 2" had any meaningful impact on my ability to haul anything. How long do you think the Cybertruck's bed is?

a full sized bed is 8 feet, the cybertruck bed is 6 feet. I don't know what else to tell you

they should just discontinue the other models, too. What a failed experiment. It achieved none of the stated goals from the initial announcement. Cost to make, Price, Range, "exoskeleton", lots of features dropped.

\#1 they took out was "a good truck at a sane price"

Names matter. That's why companies constantly play games with naming things.

When you look for them you occasionally see them. But not compared to other trucks. Source: I live in Seattle.

The $25k did actually ship. And even after adjusting for inflation, the ct drastically missed it's mark.

Turns out it's hard and they're still in front. Don't compare Tesla to their claims, compare them to the competition. Semi is still in good shape. CT is a debacle.

If they'd come anywhere near their price targets the shape wouldn't matter. The problem is that it's too expensive.

It's irrelevant how CT sells and Elon thinks it's cool, so it stays.

I don't consider my Tundra's 6.5' bed "not full size." Sorry. Actually, the more I think about it, I'm not sorry, because you are the one using the wrong terminology. It's not a full size bed, it's either a short bed, a standard bed, or a long bed. My full size truck has a standard length bed. Basically the same as the Cybertruck. "a truck for people who need a truck" Ha. I've hauled many stack of 10 and 12 foot sheets of drywall in my "apparently not a truck" Tundra with a 6.5' bed. You really just don't know what you're talking about.

I would have bought a minivan killer in jan of this year if it was available

Same here

Next up: „Tesla discontinues Cybertruck“

Another hoax, this summer they decided not to produce them after all despite people having ordered and partially pre-paid their extra battery packs.

Lol I know. Saw it coming from miles away.

I'm seeing so many people defending their Cybertruck choice in such weird ways. You can just say you like it. You don't have to make it complicated. I can break down the target demos of all the available 'truck' EVs pretty easily. 1. R1T: Moderate high earning Granola types. You want to put your MTN bikes or camping gear in the back. Maybe you tow a boat 2x a year. I am this person but without the money. 2. Ford/Chevy: You are an early adopter but have owned these brands before. You need a fleet vehicle for light to medium duty truck things. 3. CT: You still like the Musk brand, and want a vehicle that turns heads. A bold statement maker. You can accept that it would actually look kinda dumb filled with mulch bags, but that's not the point. When it comes to 'truck stuff' in actual reality the vehicle that still makes the most 'sense,' and will for the foreseeable future, is a 5 year old Taco with 80k miles on it. That's why in regards to Point 1, I drive a 23' Ridgeline. I'd get the R1T if I could afford it!